Census update
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See what I mean?
These idiots think they won something -
He's using the EO to get a count of illegals anyway idiotApostleofGrief said:A couple facts
Trump said even after the Supreme Court block that he was still planning on getting the citizenship question on the census and he probably decided to use an executive order. I would assume he was talked out of it or just suddenly changed his feeble mind at the last second like the missle strike.
I didn't say the question was against the law. I only the Constitution just demands a count only of everyone and there is no law that mandates asking questions.
The long census questionnaire is massive and sent to a tiny fraction of Americans. The questions are very intrusive. Many people do not comply with it. If you don't fill it out nothing happens although technically it is mandatory.
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This 4th amendment nonsense argument is part of the basis for that movement by idiots who believe that they have the right to not turn over their ID or respond at any time to police, the fed, the state gov, etc. They are the assholes who when pulled over for speeding lock their doors, roll up their windows and refuse to speak to the police.
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We already know the answer is at least double what they claim. Might be 3-4 times that. They just call them undocumented democratic voters not illegal aliens.RaceBannon said:
He's using the EO to get a count of illegals anyway idiotApostleofGrief said:A couple facts
Trump said even after the Supreme Court block that he was still planning on getting the citizenship question on the census and he probably decided to use an executive order. I would assume he was talked out of it or just suddenly changed his feeble mind at the last second like the missle strike.
I didn't say the question was against the law. I only the Constitution just demands a count only of everyone and there is no law that mandates asking questions.
The long census questionnaire is massive and sent to a tiny fraction of Americans. The questions are very intrusive. Many people do not comply with it. If you don't fill it out nothing happens although technically it is mandatory.
And then you guys can come up with your answer as to why you didn't want anyone to know the answer -
Of course it's not a violation of the law. If it were than the long form Census would have been against the law. He talked out his ass, got called on it and then lied about it.Bendintheriver said:
Its not against the law. This is just aog trying to shoe horn his feelings into an issue. Taking feelings and trying to turn them into facts.SFGbob said:Is a violation of the 4th Amendment a violation of the law? How is asking if someone is a citizen or not a violation of the 4th Amendment?
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53 California congressional districts and counting.RaceBannon said:See what I mean?
These idiots think they won something
Trump’s bullying and intimidation tactic failed miserably.
Add it to the list of the trump shitshow and failure:
Border wall
Trade wars
Immigration law reform
Health care reform
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You guys mostly see the world with gross oversimplifications. There might be a law or regulation in effect that violates the 4th Amendment. The massive trolling of data that has been going on for years (collecting phone records and driver's license scanning eg) might be "legal" but appears to be a 4th Amendment violation anyway. You are supposed to be safe in your privacy unless "probably cause" exists that you have committed a crime. Next, a regulation that one of the agencies, the 4th branch of government issues, is not necessarily law or constitutional. Congress has ceded it's law making powers under Article 1 to a great extent to a mass of alphabet soup agencies who are effectively making law like regulations that aren't necessarily "law" but just regulations. The questions of very intrusive nature on the long census form that Trump used as examples came from a 4th branch of government and even the GOP wanted it stopped! READ --> https://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/20/us/politics/20census.html
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Lot of words just to say you talked out your ass.
How is asking if someone is a citizen a violation of the 4th Amendment? Why not just admit you were talking out your ass? -
You can't see it Bob because you see a complex world in simple black and white, good and bad, true and false.SFGbob said:Lot of words just to say you talked out your ass.
How is asking if someone is a citizen a violation of the 4th Amendment? Why not just admit you were talking out your ass? -
Leftards lie and love to be lied to. Same with pretend super libertarians. Citizenry needs to mean something. Otherwise it's Thunderdome. How do think this all ends when the money runs out? With a viscous 4th amendment argument?
