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  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,311 Standard Supporter
    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,822 Founders Club

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
    California has 53 congressional districts with more coming following the 2020 census. If you want know how many illegals there are, California has been counting them for decades. The truth is right in from of you. Unless you are a trumptard it appears.

    The citizenship question in front of scotus was an easy lay up winner for any administration that wanted to ask, except for the policy and legal team of trump, Cletus, race, GayBob and Jethro.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950
    edited July 2019

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
    California has 53 pussy, gay ass districts
    Agreed
  • ApostleofGriefApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    edited July 2019
    Somebody find the law that says "The Census shall ask a question of citizenship" on the form. You must cite the law and that it was signed by a president.

    You can't do that. What you will find is only something to the effect that "Congress does hereby authorize the Census bureau to promulgate regulations... blah blah blah" .... there is never an explicit lawfully stated authorization.

    Now just because that funny little billionaire man says to put a citizenship question on the ballot does not mean it ever passed Congress and it certainly as we know is not in the Constitution.
    Some bureaucrats thought it up and did it. That does NOT mean that it is Constitutional although I concede it might be "legal" but again, Congress never passed such a law. That's what led to the Supreme Court and the decision.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
    California has 53 pussy, gay ass districts
    Agreed
    That pretty much sums up the trumptard scotus legal argument on the census citizenship question.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
    California has 53 pussy, gay ass districts
    Agreed
    That pretty much sums up the trumptard scotus legal argument on the census citizenship question.
    Don't give a shit
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    edited July 2019

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
    California has 53 pussy, gay ass districts
    Agreed
    That pretty much sums up the trumptard scotus legal argument on the census citizenship question.
    Trumpanzees scurrying to their edit and delete functions as fast as they can. Cowards.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
    California has 53 pussy, gay ass districts
    Agreed
    That pretty much sums up the trumptard scotus legal argument on the census citizenship question.
    Lol. Look at the coward delete his post. Own it trumptard.
    Who

    You just quoted yourself
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
    California has 53 pussy, gay ass districts
    Agreed
    That pretty much sums up the trumptard scotus legal argument on the census citizenship question.
    Lol. Look at the coward delete his post. Own it trumptard.
    Who

    You just quoted yourself
    Race ran away. Bailed on his post. Sad.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,822 Founders Club
    What we know

    Democrats don't want us to know how many illegals are here

    Good luck with that

    Oh, and thanks to the EO Trumpards will indeed be coming through the numbers including the Cali numbers to have an answer by the election

    Cali can count them but the Feds aren't allowed to

    Great fucking argument if you're an idiot

  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    What we know

    Democrats don't want us to know how many illegals are here

    Good luck with that

    Oh, and thanks to the EO Trumpards will indeed be coming through the numbers including the Cali numbers to have an answer by the election

    Cali can count them but the Feds aren't allowed to

    Great fucking argument if you're an idiot

    Congrats on your “answer.” Sounds huge because no one knows how many illegals there are. Meanwhile, congressional districts will be drawn and revenue allocations will be based on the 2020 census. Better luck on the 2030 census!
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213

    Somebody find the law that says "The Census shall ask a question of citizenship" on the form. You must cite the law and that it was signed by a president.

    You can't do that. What you will find is only something to the effect that "Congress does hereby authorize the Census bureau to promulgate regulations... blah blah blah" .... there is never an explicit lawfully stated authorization.

    Now just because that funny little billionaire man says to put a citizenship question on the ballot does not mean it ever passed Congress and it certainly as we know is not in the Constitution.
    Some bureaucrats thought it up and did it. That does NOT mean that it is Constitutional although I concede it might be "legal" but again, Congress never passed such a law. That's what led to the Supreme Court and the decision.

    What a dumbfuck.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950
    I have no issue with this conversation but I have no idea what it's about. Also, I'm drunk.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,822 Founders Club
    edited July 2019

    What we know

    Democrats don't want us to know how many illegals are here

    Good luck with that

    Oh, and thanks to the EO Trumpards will indeed be coming through the numbers including the Cali numbers to have an answer by the election

    Cali can count them but the Feds aren't allowed to

    Great fucking argument if you're an idiot

    Congrats on your “answer.” Sounds huge because no one knows how many illegals there are. Meanwhile, congressional districts will be drawn and revenue allocations will be based on the 2020 census. Better luck on the 2030 census!
    Doesn't matter. So you lie and cheat to get more power and will be exposed. Districts are based on the count. They would be counted even if they are illegal. Great non point as always

    You are also lying about California knowing how many illegals there are. Big shock

    California is home to more than two million undocumented immigrants.
    Undocumented (also known as illegal or unauthorized) immigrants are not directly identified in any representative national or state surveys. But the best estimates suggest that in 2014, the year of the most recent data available, California was home to between 2.35 and 2.6 million undocumented immigrants. Nearly a quarter of the nation’s undocumented immigrants reside in California, where they constitute more than 6% of the state’s population. Nationally, the undocumented population has stabilized at approximately 11 million, following a slight decline after 2007. A combination of increased enforcement, voluntary returns, and fewer new migrants has increased the average length of residence in the United States, with 66% of undocumented immigrants having lived here for 10 or more years.

  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    What we know

    Democrats don't want us to know how many illegals are here

    Good luck with that

    Oh, and thanks to the EO Trumpards will indeed be coming through the numbers including the Cali numbers to have an answer by the election

    Cali can count them but the Feds aren't allowed to

    Great fucking argument if you're an idiot

    Congrats on your “answer.” Sounds huge because no one knows how many illegals there are. Meanwhile, congressional districts will be drawn and revenue allocations will be based on the 2020 census. Better luck on the 2030 census!
    Doesn't matter. So you lie and cheat to get more power and will be exposed. Districts are based on the count. They would be counted even if they are illegal. Great non point as always

    You are also lying about California knowing how many illegals there are. Big shock

    California is home to more than two million undocumented immigrants.
    Undocumented (also known as illegal or unauthorized) immigrants are not directly identified in any representative national or state surveys. But the best estimates suggest that in 2014, the year of the most recent data available, California was home to between 2.35 and 2.6 million undocumented immigrants. Nearly a quarter of the nation’s undocumented immigrants reside in California, where they constitute more than 6% of the state’s population. Nationally, the undocumented population has stabilized at approximately 11 million, following a slight decline after 2007. A combination of increased enforcement, voluntary returns, and fewer new migrants has increased the average length of residence in the United States, with 66% of undocumented immigrants having lived here for 10 or more years.

    I’d expect nothing less from you.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,822 Founders Club
    Lying sack of shit said what?

    Sober up and try it again champ
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,859 Standard Supporter

    What we know

    Democrats don't want us to know how many illegals are here

    Good luck with that

    Oh, and thanks to the EO Trumpards will indeed be coming through the numbers including the Cali numbers to have an answer by the election

    Cali can count them but the Feds aren't allowed to

    Great fucking argument if you're an idiot

    Congrats on your “answer.” Sounds huge because no one knows how many illegals there are. Meanwhile, congressional districts will be drawn and revenue allocations will be based on the 2020 census. Better luck on the 2030 census!
    Odd you just said Kali counts them all the time. Which is basement boy?
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950



    Sober up and try it again champ

    Hey fuck you!
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