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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,884 Standard Supporter
    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,415 Founders Club

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
    California has 53 congressional districts with more coming following the 2020 census. If you want know how many illegals there are, California has been counting them for decades. The truth is right in from of you. Unless you are a trumptard it appears.

    The citizenship question in front of scotus was an easy lay up winner for any administration that wanted to ask, except for the policy and legal team of trump, Cletus, race, GayBob and Jethro.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676
    edited July 2019

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
    California has 53 pussy, gay ass districts
    Agreed
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    edited July 2019
    Somebody find the law that says "The Census shall ask a question of citizenship" on the form. You must cite the law and that it was signed by a president.

    You can't do that. What you will find is only something to the effect that "Congress does hereby authorize the Census bureau to promulgate regulations... blah blah blah" .... there is never an explicit lawfully stated authorization.

    Now just because that funny little billionaire man says to put a citizenship question on the ballot does not mean it ever passed Congress and it certainly as we know is not in the Constitution.
    Some bureaucrats thought it up and did it. That does NOT mean that it is Constitutional although I concede it might be "legal" but again, Congress never passed such a law. That's what led to the Supreme Court and the decision.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
    California has 53 pussy, gay ass districts
    Agreed
    That pretty much sums up the trumptard scotus legal argument on the census citizenship question.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
    California has 53 pussy, gay ass districts
    Agreed
    That pretty much sums up the trumptard scotus legal argument on the census citizenship question.
    Don't give a shit
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    edited July 2019

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
    California has 53 pussy, gay ass districts
    Agreed
    That pretty much sums up the trumptard scotus legal argument on the census citizenship question.
    Trumpanzees scurrying to their edit and delete functions as fast as they can. Cowards.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676

    Unfortunately for your argument there isn't any 4th amendment issue here. It is merely leftards on the SC disagreeing on a policy basis about the question. It was legal for more than a century and then it's not. The Constitution authorizes a census. It is a clear Constitutional mandate. Unlike abortion or gay marriage. Given the mandate, asking about citizenship is clearly within the mandate. You don't need emanations or penumbras to get there. To not get there you need to be dishonest. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Citizenship has and could be asked. It requires a competent president and administration, however. Trump’s “policy” and “legal” argument was thrown out by a friendly scotus as “contrived.” Better luck white nationalists in 2030!
    No it was a clear case of obstructing the process using the courts to run out the clock

    But the EO will still get the truth out there before 2020 elections

    You lost and Trump painted your team for the open borders crowed they are. What are you so scared of? A count of illegals

    Trying to blame Trump for this is fucking stupid but that's how you roll

    Was Roberts friendly when he bent over for Obamacare? Idiot
    California has 53 pussy, gay ass districts
    Agreed
    That pretty much sums up the trumptard scotus legal argument on the census citizenship question.
    Lol. Look at the coward delete his post. Own it trumptard.
    Who

    You just quoted yourself