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  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    No real empire should have hole in the ground toilets at their famous cultural sites.
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    YellowSnow said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    China is going to hit a brick wall soon enough. Can't escape their own demographics and the economics of it. We just should be setting it up so they don't corrupt the rule of law in the rest of the world in the mean time.

    I read somewhere once that their demographic decline is chinevitable as a result of 1 child policy.
    Exactly. Unless the Chinese start offing grandmas and grandpas by the millions they are going to get shredded due to demographics.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,091 Founders Club
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
    Their education scores are hilariously inflated. Sure, the average child attending a private international school in Beijing does better than the average American student. Go spend some time in anything that isn't elite rich China and you can see they are still less than a generation removed from 3rd world education.

    Jesus you guys buy a lot of CCP propaganda if you think China is still even a fart in the wind close to catching the US even with all of the cheating. That's the only way they can remotely stay in the game not the way they are going to win 34-17.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,091 Founders Club
    Same shit was said about Japan, ze Germans, and then all the Asian tigers, and then the Eurozone.

    I'm the biggest China alarmist here but they aren't going to eat our lunch unless we let them.
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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
    Their education scores are hilariously inflated. Sure, the average child attending a private international school in Beijing does better than the average American student. Go spend some time in anything that isn't elite rich China and you can see they are still less than a generation removed from 3rd world education.

    Jesus you guys buy a lot of CCP propaganda if you think China is still even a fart in the wind close to catching the US even with all of the cheating. That's the only way they can remotely stay in the game not the way they are going to win 34-17.
    But I’m hearing on the tug we have to beat China “at their own game.” Tariffs and protectionism. Why does the US need to beat China at their own game when we already have them beat?
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    RaceBannon said:

    YellowSnow said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    RaceBannon said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
    Might as well not even play the game
    I knew as soon as I saw those 1 billion Chinese step out of the tunnel that we were in for a rough day.
    People forget that they fought us to a draw once when they were still a loser nation of mostly bike commuters.
    Coach McArthur wanted to push up the middle but got fired by the AD
    Race is always right.

    Confirmation once again.

    https://youtu.be/Fj5k6toS7i8
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  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,041 Standard Supporter
    salemcoog said:

    RaceBannon said:

    YellowSnow said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    RaceBannon said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
    Might as well not even play the game
    I knew as soon as I saw those 1 billion Chinese step out of the tunnel that we were in for a rough day.
    People forget that they fought us to a draw once when they were still a loser nation of mostly bike commuters.
    Coach McArthur wanted to push up the middle but got fired by the AD
    Race is always right.

    Confirmation once again.

    https://youtu.be/Fj5k6toS7i8
    Moving forward I will now imagine all of Race’s posts being read by Sam Kinison.
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Same shit was said about Japan, ze Germans, and then all the Asian tigers, and then the Eurozone.

    I'm the biggest China alarmist here but they aren't going to eat our lunch unless we let them.

    There's a key difference you're ignoring. There's over a billion of those motherfuckers.
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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Same shit was said about Japan, ze Germans, and then all the Asian tigers, and then the Eurozone.

    I'm the biggest China alarmist here but they aren't going to eat our lunch unless we let them.

    So the idea is that the US abandons principles, values, income, wealth and global leadership in open markets and free trade in order to teach an already defeated competitor a lesson they won’t soon forget!?Truly the essential essence of trumptardism is revealed in this quest.
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Same shit was said about Japan, ze Germans, and then all the Asian tigers, and then the Eurozone.

    I'm the biggest China alarmist here but they aren't going to eat our lunch unless we let them.

    There's a key difference you're ignoring. There's over a billion of those motherfuckers.
    It took the US about 60 years for our 65+ population to go from 7% to 14% (when you hit 14% the society is considered “aged”). The Chinese in part because of the one child policy will do it in a little over 20 years. They will be crushed by demographics.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Same shit was said about Japan, ze Germans, and then all the Asian tigers, and then the Eurozone.

    I'm the biggest China alarmist here but they aren't going to eat our lunch unless we let them.

    So the idea is that the US abandons principles, values, income, wealth and global leadership in open markets and free trade in order to teach an already defeated competitor a lesson they won’t soon forget!?Truly the essential essence of trumptardism is revealed in this quest.
    No that's not the idea

    At all

    Muellertard
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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    RaceBannon said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Same shit was said about Japan, ze Germans, and then all the Asian tigers, and then the Eurozone.

    I'm the biggest China alarmist here but they aren't going to eat our lunch unless we let them.

    So the idea is that the US abandons principles, values, income, wealth and global leadership in open markets and free trade in order to teach an already defeated competitor a lesson they won’t soon forget!?Truly the essential essence of trumptardism is revealed in this quest.
    No that's not the idea

    At all

    Muellertard
    No doubt the folly and ignorance of trumptardism in general and the trade war with china specifically makes sense to you. Someday I’m sure you’ll be able to explain it.
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  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I don't need 5 pages to tell you the world has always had an empire or top dog and we are all better off having America at number 1

    Stop teaching self loathing and lets beat these uh Chinese at their own game.

    We can never beat them at their own game. Their game is undying loyalty to the state, violation of any and all global norms, and, most importantly, the willingness to subsidize any domestic company to artificially compete with other international players. You can't beat them when they play by their rules and you play in a "free market". Not even Bob's worst caricature of a democrat could put us on an even playing field.
    That describes most Americans.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
    Their education scores are hilariously inflated. Sure, the average child attending a private international school in Beijing does better than the average American student. Go spend some time in anything that isn't elite rich China and you can see they are still less than a generation removed from 3rd world education.

    Jesus you guys buy a lot of CCP propaganda if you think China is still even a fart in the wind close to catching the US even with all of the cheating. That's the only way they can remotely stay in the game not the way they are going to win 34-17.
    But I’m hearing on the tug we have to beat China “at their own game.” Tariffs and protectionism. Why does the US need to beat China at their own game when we already have them beat?
    Simpleton one trick pony weighs in!!!!
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,762 Standard Supporter
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Same shit was said about Japan, ze Germans, and then all the Asian tigers, and then the Eurozone.

    I'm the biggest China alarmist here but they aren't going to eat our lunch unless we let them.

    There's a key difference you're ignoring. There's over a billion of those motherfuckers.
    Nothing we can't fix.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,407 Founders Club
    60%+ of Chinese citizens live in harsh third world conditions.
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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,407 Founders Club
    WestlinnDuck said:

    Rome fell and was not replaced. The US is losing momentum in the things that made America great. Strong families, a strong work ethic, the rule of law and freedom and liberty. These make for a strong society. Romans decided that bread and circuses were the secret of success. They were overthrown by destroyers, not builders.
    The chicoms are not built as replacers. They have more corruption, less rule of law, less freedom and liberty and even have more debt. Americans won’t be destroyed by the chi coms. We will be destroyed as Venezuela is destroyed. The promise of free sh*t to a lazy stupid population. What do you think will happen when the money runs out? Who then helps pay off the Chinese debt? China will tear itself apart also.

    This!
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    DerekJohnson said:

    60%+ of Chinese citizens live in harsh third world conditions.

    So 600m who are still part of the modern economy? And a single state gets to decide where the aggregate of their output goes.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    jecornel said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I don't need 5 pages to tell you the world has always had an empire or top dog and we are all better off having America at number 1

    Stop teaching self loathing and lets beat these uh Chinese at their own game.

    I lived in China. The world is better off with America being #1. Undying loyalty, fear, and superiority to all races especially the Japanese drive the people of china. The Dali Lama is viewed as a murderer in China. The holiness stands for murder not peace. That's literally truth in China. The idea of compassion is not part of the vocabulary. Saw a guy get hit by a bus bleeding out from his head and no one stopped. People on mopeds just drove around him. Watched people with no legs dragging themselves by their elbows with a piece of cardboard under their waist so they could crawl as they begged for money. Other brutal things I won't mention. Status and material items is extremely important. Going to a golf course seeing most people with thousand dollar Clubs, five hundred dollar outfits and couldn't hit the ball a hundred yards but they looked good.
    China is a strange place, but worth visiting.

    Luckily we get the Don for another four years to navigate the world stage. Being that he is a genius and all.
    Read an article (might have been posted here) awhile back about how in China if you hit somebody with your car you back up and hit them again, and again because vehicular homocide isn't a big deal but if they live you're paying their medical bills for the rest of their lives.

    It's some pretty fucked up shit.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    MikeDamone said:

    jecornel said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I don't need 5 pages to tell you the world has always had an empire or top dog and we are all better off having America at number 1

    Stop teaching self loathing and lets beat these uh Chinese at their own game.

    I lived in China. The world is better off with America being #1. Undying loyalty, fear, and superiority to all races especially the Japanese drive the people of china. The Dali Lama is viewed as a murderer in China. The holiness stands for murder not peace. That's literally truth in China. The idea of compassion is not part of the vocabulary. Saw a guy get hit by a bus bleeding out from his head and no one stopped. People on mopeds just drove around him. Watched people with no legs dragging themselves by their elbows with a piece of cardboard under their waist so they could crawl as they begged for money. Other brutal things I won't mention. Status and material items is extremely important. Going to a golf course seeing most people with thousand dollar Clubs, five hundred dollar outfits and couldn't hit the ball a hundred yards but they looked good.
    China is a strange place, but worth visiting.

    Luckily we get the Don for another four years to navigate the world stage. Being that he is a genius and all.
    Did you save the guys life who was hit by the bus?
    Often when one is hit by a car in China, the driver will go ahead and back up over the ped again to finish the job as to avoid liability.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    MikeDamone said:

    jecornel said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I don't need 5 pages to tell you the world has always had an empire or top dog and we are all better off having America at number 1

    Stop teaching self loathing and lets beat these uh Chinese at their own game.

    I lived in China. The world is better off with America being #1. Undying loyalty, fear, and superiority to all races especially the Japanese drive the people of china. The Dali Lama is viewed as a murderer in China. The holiness stands for murder not peace. That's literally truth in China. The idea of compassion is not part of the vocabulary. Saw a guy get hit by a bus bleeding out from his head and no one stopped. People on mopeds just drove around him. Watched people with no legs dragging themselves by their elbows with a piece of cardboard under their waist so they could crawl as they begged for money. Other brutal things I won't mention. Status and material items is extremely important. Going to a golf course seeing most people with thousand dollar Clubs, five hundred dollar outfits and couldn't hit the ball a hundred yards but they looked good.
    China is a strange place, but worth visiting.

    Luckily we get the Don for another four years to navigate the world stage. Being that he is a genius and all.
    Did you save the guys life who was hit by the bus?
    Bystander effect in full effect
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,091 Founders Club
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
    Their education scores are hilariously inflated. Sure, the average child attending a private international school in Beijing does better than the average American student. Go spend some time in anything that isn't elite rich China and you can see they are still less than a generation removed from 3rd world education.

    Jesus you guys buy a lot of CCP propaganda if you think China is still even a fart in the wind close to catching the US even with all of the cheating. That's the only way they can remotely stay in the game not the way they are going to win 34-17.
    But I’m hearing on the tug we have to beat China “at their own game.” Tariffs and protectionism. Why does the US need to beat China at their own game when we already have them beat?
    CDawg I thought we'd already come to terms on this. Just because in the long run their model is unsustainable doesn't mean we have to let them steal more than a trillion dollars a year to prop it up in the short run. Tariffs will force either them to reform or to collapse. Classic CCP Win-Win for us.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,091 Founders Club
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Same shit was said about Japan, ze Germans, and then all the Asian tigers, and then the Eurozone.

    I'm the biggest China alarmist here but they aren't going to eat our lunch unless we let them.

    There's a key difference you're ignoring. There's over a billion of those motherfuckers.
    Yeap, and they are aging rapidly because of the 1 child policy while the US is the only meaningful developed nation with a positive growth of young working age adults because of demographics and immigration.

    They are about to have over 250 Million people who are elderly with little savings looking for government care. It's like Japan's aging problem but on steroids.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,762 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2019
    They have severely handicapped themselves with the one child idiocy and they will have a hard time recovering since those born and allowed to live were predominantly boys. They'll be all two dad households. Hard to regrow that population and they'll all be attorneys or politicians. They're doomed!
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    jecornel said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I don't need 5 pages to tell you the world has always had an empire or top dog and we are all better off having America at number 1

    Stop teaching self loathing and lets beat these uh Chinese at their own game.

    I lived in China. The world is better off with America being #1. Undying loyalty, fear, and superiority to all races especially the Japanese drive the people of china. The Dali Lama is viewed as a murderer in China. The holiness stands for murder not peace. That's literally truth in China. The idea of compassion is not part of the vocabulary. Saw a guy get hit by a bus bleeding out from his head and no one stopped. People on mopeds just drove around him. Watched people with no legs dragging themselves by their elbows with a piece of cardboard under their waist so they could crawl as they begged for money. Other brutal things I won't mention. Status and material items is extremely important. Going to a golf course seeing most people with thousand dollar Clubs, five hundred dollar outfits and couldn't hit the ball a hundred yards but they looked good.
    China is a strange place, but worth visiting.

    Luckily we get the Don for another four years to navigate the world stage. Being that he is a genius and all.
    Mention them you fucking tease!

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