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Highly recommended TL;DR piece on China

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  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    I don't need 5 pages to tell you the world has always had an empire or top dog and we are all better off having America at number 1

    Stop teaching self loathing and lets beat these uh Chinese at their own game.

    We can never beat them at their own game. Their game is undying loyalty to the state, violation of any and all global norms, and, most importantly, the willingness to subsidize any domestic company to artificially compete with other international players. You can't beat them when they play by their rules and you play in a "free market". Not even Bob's worst caricature of a democrat could put us on an even playing field.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,807 Founders Club
    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,950

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    Haaaave you met apag
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,807 Founders Club

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
    Might as well not even play the game
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,415 Founders Club

    I don't need 5 pages to tell you the world has always had an empire or top dog and we are all better off having America at number 1

    Stop teaching self loathing and lets beat these uh Chinese at their own game.

    One key point Kaplan makes is how much more important Taiwan is than our fucking around in the Middle East. We probably have to be willing to defend Taiwan to keep our street cred on that shore of the Pacific.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Before or after peak oil?
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,415 Founders Club

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
    Might as well not even play the game
    I knew as soon as I saw those 1 billion Chinese step out of the tunnel that we were in for a rough day.
    People forget that they fought us to a draw once when they were still a loser nation of mostly bike commuters.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    No real empire should have hole in the ground toilets at their famous cultural sites.
  • GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470

    China is going to hit a brick wall soon enough. Can't escape their own demographics and the economics of it. We just should be setting it up so they don't corrupt the rule of law in the rest of the world in the mean time.

    I read somewhere once that their demographic decline is chinevitable as a result of 1 child policy.
    Exactly. Unless the Chinese start offing grandmas and grandpas by the millions they are going to get shredded due to demographics.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,781 Swaye's Wigwam

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
    Their education scores are hilariously inflated. Sure, the average child attending a private international school in Beijing does better than the average American student. Go spend some time in anything that isn't elite rich China and you can see they are still less than a generation removed from 3rd world education.

    Jesus you guys buy a lot of CCP propaganda if you think China is still even a fart in the wind close to catching the US even with all of the cheating. That's the only way they can remotely stay in the game not the way they are going to win 34-17.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,781 Swaye's Wigwam
    Same shit was said about Japan, ze Germans, and then all the Asian tigers, and then the Eurozone.

    I'm the biggest China alarmist here but they aren't going to eat our lunch unless we let them.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
    Their education scores are hilariously inflated. Sure, the average child attending a private international school in Beijing does better than the average American student. Go spend some time in anything that isn't elite rich China and you can see they are still less than a generation removed from 3rd world education.

    Jesus you guys buy a lot of CCP propaganda if you think China is still even a fart in the wind close to catching the US even with all of the cheating. That's the only way they can remotely stay in the game not the way they are going to win 34-17.
    But I’m hearing on the tug we have to beat China “at their own game.” Tariffs and protectionism. Why does the US need to beat China at their own game when we already have them beat?
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
    Might as well not even play the game
    I knew as soon as I saw those 1 billion Chinese step out of the tunnel that we were in for a rough day.
    People forget that they fought us to a draw once when they were still a loser nation of mostly bike commuters.
    Coach McArthur wanted to push up the middle but got fired by the AD
    Race is always right.

    Confirmation once again.

    https://youtu.be/Fj5k6toS7i8
  • Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,021 Standard Supporter
    salemcoog said:

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
    Might as well not even play the game
    I knew as soon as I saw those 1 billion Chinese step out of the tunnel that we were in for a rough day.
    People forget that they fought us to a draw once when they were still a loser nation of mostly bike commuters.
    Coach McArthur wanted to push up the middle but got fired by the AD
    Race is always right.

    Confirmation once again.

    https://youtu.be/Fj5k6toS7i8
    Moving forward I will now imagine all of Race’s posts being read by Sam Kinison.
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Same shit was said about Japan, ze Germans, and then all the Asian tigers, and then the Eurozone.

    I'm the biggest China alarmist here but they aren't going to eat our lunch unless we let them.

    There's a key difference you're ignoring. There's over a billion of those motherfuckers.
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