Highly recommended TL;DR piece on China
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I was told this class had no reading required
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The last thing American policymakers or strategists should assume is that somehow Americans are superior to the Chinese.
The first thing they should know is that China BELIEVES they are superior to all races and countries
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The way they are being ostracized from Harvard, it's hard to disagree.RaceBannon said:The last thing American policymakers or strategists should assume is that somehow Americans are superior to the Chinese.
The first thing they should know is that China BELIEVES they are superior to all races and countries
Stopped reading at the intro. Sorry -
Why? This is a good point.RaceBannon said:The last thing American policymakers or strategists should assume is that somehow Americans are superior to the Chinese.
The first thing they should know is that China BELIEVES they are superior to all races and countries
Stopped reading at the intro. Sorry -
I don't need 5 pages to tell you the world has always had an empire or top dog and we are all better off having America at number 1
Stop teaching self loathing and lets beat these uh Chinese at their own game. -
When China stop stealing our IP, I'll start believing that the Chinese are superior.
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China is still a ways behind us in tech, but they are doing very well in some sectors- e.g., 5G, quantum computing, etc. Remember that for most of the past 2000 years they were more technologically advanced than the West, and we have to consider the possibility that they may catch up (note - I'm not worried about the Arabs regaining their technological prowess because they are done). We need another Sputnik moment to get serious about staying ahead of China.SFGbob said:When China stop stealing our IP, I'll start believing that the Chinese are superior.
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If or when or if already China has had a Sputnik moment, they won't announce it to the masses imo. With all of the theft of military technology, intellectual property and having the advantage of focus that Dictatorship brings, it's not hard to envision them already there.YellowSnow said:
China is still a ways behind us in tech, but they are doing very well in some sectors- e.g., 5G, quantum computing, etc. Remember that for most of the past 2000 years they were more technologically advanced than the West, and we have to consider the possibility that they may catch up (note - I'm not worried about the Arabs regaining their technological prowess because they are done). We need another Sputnik moment to get serious about staying ahead of China.SFGbob said:When China stop stealing our IP, I'll start believing that the Chinese are superior.
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China was fated to rule the world. Period. Whining about its systematic commercial cheating was supposedly merely delaying the inevitable or would have bad repercussions later on. Progressives knew the Communists put tens of thousands of people in camps, rounded up Muslims, and destroyed civil liberties, and yet in “woke” fashion tip-toed around criticizing the Other. Trump then destroyed the mirage of China as a Westernizing aspirant to the family of nations. In a protracted tariff struggle, there are lots of countries in Asia that could produce cheap goods as readily as China, but far fewer countries like the United States that have money to be siphoned off in mercantilist trade deals, or the technology to steal, or the preferred homes and universities in which to invest.
https://amgreatness.com/2019/06/16/when-normality-became-abnormal/
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Every time I hear about China I can hear Trump’s voice saying the word. Helps Trump IMO.
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I don't think the Sputnik analogy works for the Chinese side. It's more about this country being complacent and not realizing how much technological progress our adversary has made.salemcoog said:
If or when or if already China has had a Sputnik moment, they won't announce it to the masses imo. With all of the theft of military technology, intellectual property and having the advantage of focus that Dictatorship brings, it's not hard to envision them already there.YellowSnow said:
China is still a ways behind us in tech, but they are doing very well in some sectors- e.g., 5G, quantum computing, etc. Remember that for most of the past 2000 years they were more technologically advanced than the West, and we have to consider the possibility that they may catch up (note - I'm not worried about the Arabs regaining their technological prowess because they are done). We need another Sputnik moment to get serious about staying ahead of China.SFGbob said:When China stop stealing our IP, I'll start believing that the Chinese are superior.
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Rome fell and was not replaced. The US is losing momentum in the things that made America great. Strong families, a strong work ethic, the rule of law and freedom and liberty. These make for a strong society. Romans decided that bread and circuses were the secret of success. They were overthrown by destroyers, not builders.
The chicoms are not built as replacers. They have more corruption, less rule of law, less freedom and liberty and even have more debt. Americans won’t be destroyed by the chi coms. We will be destroyed as Venezuela is destroyed. The promise of free sh*t to a lazy stupid population. What do you think will happen when the money runs out? Who then helps pay off the Chinese debt? China will tear itself apart also. -
Rome didn't have the bomb to keep out the barbarians.WestlinnDuck said:Rome fell and was not replaced. The US is losing momentum in the things that made America great. Strong families, a strong work ethic, the rule of law and freedom and liberty. These make for a strong society. Romans decided that bread and circuses were the secret of success. They were overthrown by destroyers, not builders.
The chicoms are not built as replacers. They have more corruption, less rule of law, less freedom and liberty and even have more debt. Americans won’t be destroyed by the chi coms. We will be destroyed as Venezuela is destroyed. The promise of free sh*t to a lazy stupid population. What do you think will happen when the money runs out? Who then helps pay off the Chinese debt? China will tear itself apart also. -
True. I also think we? are JUST as vulnerable due to not being serious about cyber security either. You can have superior tech but it doesn't mean anything if it isn't safe from manipulation. The private sector is just as guilty, if not moreso at this. There should be crippling fines to companies that do business here whom allow their customers and those that they serve info to be stolen.YellowSnow said:
I don't think the Sputnik analogy works for the Chinese side. It's more about this country being complacent and not realizing how much technological progress our adversary has made.salemcoog said:
If or when or if already China has had a Sputnik moment, they won't announce it to the masses imo. With all of the theft of military technology, intellectual property and having the advantage of focus that Dictatorship brings, it's not hard to envision them already there.YellowSnow said:
China is still a ways behind us in tech, but they are doing very well in some sectors- e.g., 5G, quantum computing, etc. Remember that for most of the past 2000 years they were more technologically advanced than the West, and we have to consider the possibility that they may catch up (note - I'm not worried about the Arabs regaining their technological prowess because they are done). We need another Sputnik moment to get serious about staying ahead of China.SFGbob said:When China stop stealing our IP, I'll start believing that the Chinese are superior.
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Keep the quantum computing. Screw 5g. If you still don't understand what 5g is really about, you're beyond the point of help.YellowSnow said:
China is still a ways behind us in tech, but they are doing very well in some sectors- e.g., 5G, quantum computing, etc. Remember that for most of the past 2000 years they were more technologically advanced than the West, and we have to consider the possibility that they may catch up (note - I'm not worried about the Arabs regaining their technological prowess because they are done). We need another Sputnik moment to get serious about staying ahead of China.SFGbob said:When China stop stealing our IP, I'll start believing that the Chinese are superior.
It's about control and surveillance. All they have to do is push a button to fry the brains and bodies of anyone connected to the 5g grid.
Life Inside China's TOTAL Surveillance State:
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I liked it better OBK when we’d Bull shit about me smashing beer cans on the field at Autzen. Not worried about 5G in the US.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Keep the quantum computing. Screw 5g. If you still don't understand what 5g is really about, you're beyond the point of help.YellowSnow said:
China is still a ways behind us in tech, but they are doing very well in some sectors- e.g., 5G, quantum computing, etc. Remember that for most of the past 2000 years they were more technologically advanced than the West, and we have to consider the possibility that they may catch up (note - I'm not worried about the Arabs regaining their technological prowess because they are done). We need another Sputnik moment to get serious about staying ahead of China.SFGbob said:When China stop stealing our IP, I'll start believing that the Chinese are superior.
It's about control and surveillance. All they have to do is push a button to fry the brains and bodies of anyone connected to the 5g grid.
Life Inside China's TOTAL Surveillance State:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ5LnY21Hgc -
China is going to hit a brick wall soon enough. Can't escape their own demographics and the economics of it. We just should be setting it up so they don't corrupt the rule of law in the rest of the world in the mean time.
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I read somewhere once that their demographic decline is chinevitable as a result of 1 child policy.UW_Doog_Bot said:China is going to hit a brick wall soon enough. Can't escape their own demographics and the economics of it. We just should be setting it up so they don't corrupt the rule of law in the rest of the world in the mean time.
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How about them Chinese people?
With their chang Chang Chong talk
We can't understand you!
GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY
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Fuck, that's a long article.
I had to take a brb, jo break and a nap just to get through it.
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We can never beat them at their own game. Their game is undying loyalty to the state, violation of any and all global norms, and, most importantly, the willingness to subsidize any domestic company to artificially compete with other international players. You can't beat them when they play by their rules and you play in a "free market". Not even Bob's worst caricature of a democrat could put us on an even playing field.RaceBannon said:I don't need 5 pages to tell you the world has always had an empire or top dog and we are all better off having America at number 1
Stop teaching self loathing and lets beat these uh Chinese at their own game. -
Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.
Now its China
It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them
We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same
America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism
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Haaaave you met apagRaceBannon said:Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.
Now its China
It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them
We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same
America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism -
This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.RaceBannon said:Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.
Now its China
It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them
We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same
America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism -
Might as well not even play the gameGreenRiverGatorz said:
This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.RaceBannon said:Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.
Now its China
It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them
We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same
America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism -
One key point Kaplan makes is how much more important Taiwan is than our fucking around in the Middle East. We probably have to be willing to defend Taiwan to keep our street cred on that shore of the Pacific.RaceBannon said:I don't need 5 pages to tell you the world has always had an empire or top dog and we are all better off having America at number 1
Stop teaching self loathing and lets beat these uh Chinese at their own game. -
Before or after peak oil?
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One of my best friends is a chink and he would NEVER start an empire!
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I knew as soon as I saw those 1 billion Chinese step out of the tunnel that we were in for a rough day.RaceBannon said:
Might as well not even play the gameGreenRiverGatorz said:
This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.RaceBannon said:Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.
Now its China
It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them
We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same
America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism -
People forget that they fought us to a draw once when they were still a loser nation of mostly bike commuters.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I knew as soon as I saw those 1 billion Chinese step out of the tunnel that we were in for a rough day.RaceBannon said:
Might as well not even play the gameGreenRiverGatorz said:
This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.RaceBannon said:Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.
Now its China
It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them
We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same
America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism
