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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    RaceBannon said:

    I don't need 5 pages to tell you the world has always had an empire or top dog and we are all better off having America at number 1

    Stop teaching self loathing and lets beat these uh Chinese at their own game.

    We can never beat them at their own game. Their game is undying loyalty to the state, violation of any and all global norms, and, most importantly, the willingness to subsidize any domestic company to artificially compete with other international players. You can't beat them when they play by their rules and you play in a "free market". Not even Bob's worst caricature of a democrat could put us on an even playing field.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,877 Founders Club
    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,691
    RaceBannon said:

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    Haaaave you met apag
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168
    RaceBannon said:

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,877 Founders Club
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
    Might as well not even play the game
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,817 Founders Club
    RaceBannon said:

    I don't need 5 pages to tell you the world has always had an empire or top dog and we are all better off having America at number 1

    Stop teaching self loathing and lets beat these uh Chinese at their own game.

    One key point Kaplan makes is how much more important Taiwan is than our fucking around in the Middle East. We probably have to be willing to defend Taiwan to keep our street cred on that shore of the Pacific.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Before or after peak oil?
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,817 Founders Club
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    RaceBannon said:

    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Their game is the long game. The third world development is something we did in the cold war as did the USSR.

    Now its China

    It would be going backwards to be on an even field with them

    We will rot from within like England before anyone beats us but the result is the same

    America has to keep that we can do anything spirit. Not embrace self loathing and defeatism

    This isn't 1999, they're already done with that whole third world redevelopment thing. They can compete with anyone. They have a scared shitless population that is simultaneously extremely well educated. Their children outperform ours. They attend our world renowned universities. They don't blink twice about cheating, either at the personal or state level. Meanwhile our population can't even agree on what constitutes a basic fact. China is whooping our ass.
    Might as well not even play the game
    I knew as soon as I saw those 1 billion Chinese step out of the tunnel that we were in for a rough day.
    People forget that they fought us to a draw once when they were still a loser nation of mostly bike commuters.
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