Biden launches his campaign with a lie

ApostleofGrief said:

PurpleThrobber said:

ApostleofGrief said:

SFGbob said:

As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that the GOP "won the Senate 53-47." That makes it sound like 53 senator were voted in, but the reality is that only a handful of GOP senators were voted in since they only stand for reelection every 6 years.

That's pompous bullshit.

Will Cain had a solid take on this today on his show. The newest 'progressive' movement is 'cancel' history -don't like it, cancel it, wipe it off the face of existence. Ultimately, you too, will be cancelled because your beliefs or history offends someone in the future.

Because someone recognizes history exists, does not mean they condone the actions or beliefs of the times.

It realize the history is not simple. The history is that the South declared their independence, but it was not wholly due to slavery. They said if Lincoln was elected they'd secede. He was and they did. Lincoln himself only ran on a platform of preventing the expansion of slavery. The South didn't want this kind of hegemony. But what it looks like now is that people that support keeping statues of Lee, Longstreet, etc (I assume there aren't any Pickett statues after that fuck up at Gettsyburg) support slavery. The history of the South is not just what happened in the Civil War, but the entire issue of KKK and segregation that came after that, and that the statues represent the wrong side of it.

Pitchfork51 said:

2001400ex said:

ApostleofGrief said:

PurpleThrobber said:

ApostleofGrief said:

SFGbob said:

As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that the GOP "won the Senate 53-47." That makes it sound like 53 senator were voted in, but the reality is that only a handful of GOP senators were voted in since they only stand for reelection every 6 years.

That's pompous bullshit.

Will Cain had a solid take on this today on his show. The newest 'progressive' movement is 'cancel' history -don't like it, cancel it, wipe it off the face of existence. Ultimately, you too, will be cancelled because your beliefs or history offends someone in the future.

Because someone recognizes history exists, does not mean they condone the actions or beliefs of the times.

It realize the history is not simple. The history is that the South declared their independence, but it was not wholly due to slavery. They said if Lincoln was elected they'd secede. He was and they did. Lincoln himself only ran on a platform of preventing the expansion of slavery. The South didn't want this kind of hegemony. But what it looks like now is that people that support keeping statues of Lee, Longstreet, etc (I assume there aren't any Pickett statues after that fuck up at Gettsyburg) support slavery. The history of the South is not just what happened in the Civil War, but the entire issue of KKK and segregation that came after that, and that the statues represent the wrong side of it.

People are blind if they don't see that this administration has allowed people to be more vocal about their white supremacy. Step out of Cali and the Northwest and go to the deep South. That shit still exists.

But keep bashing liberals who were the real racists and then damn progressives for not allowing people to speak up for white supremacism.

Did you not think that being told that being white is evil would cause general resentment and some crazies to be crazier

RaceBannon said:

2001400ex said:

ApostleofGrief said:

PurpleThrobber said:

ApostleofGrief said:

SFGbob said:

As I predicted 6 months ago one of themes the Rats were going to use against Trump was that he was a racist and they were going to use Charlottesville in order to make their case. Claiming Trump was calling neo-Nazis ""fine people" is a lie. Trump was specifically talking about the the people who were protesting against the removal of all Confederate statues and the "fine people on both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issues.

But like the left's charge that Trump called all Mexicans rapists, this is another left-wing lie that's been repeated so many times it's now become an article of faith with the MSM/Rat party.

Trump was seemingly talking about the statue protesters, not necessarily the hooligan crowd... but ultimately the big difference is that one side of this is 1) approve of slavery, basically and racism, and 2) you don't approve. THAT is the main issue. On that count, in general, Biden is right. Trump makes a specious argument that the Founders had slaves too. But, they didn't fight years later to persist the practice of slavery as the South did, and then -- after losing -- erect statues of the main perpetrators of slavery persistence. But even more so, accusing somebody of a lie is not appropriate unless it is so disingenuous as to be patently false. Example: Trump's claim that the GOP "won the Senate 53-47." That makes it sound like 53 senator were voted in, but the reality is that only a handful of GOP senators were voted in since they only stand for reelection every 6 years.

That's pompous bullshit.

Will Cain had a solid take on this today on his show. The newest 'progressive' movement is 'cancel' history -don't like it, cancel it, wipe it off the face of existence. Ultimately, you too, will be cancelled because your beliefs or history offends someone in the future.

Because someone recognizes history exists, does not mean they condone the actions or beliefs of the times.

It realize the history is not simple. The history is that the South declared their independence, but it was not wholly due to slavery. They said if Lincoln was elected they'd secede. He was and they did. Lincoln himself only ran on a platform of preventing the expansion of slavery. The South didn't want this kind of hegemony. But what it looks like now is that people that support keeping statues of Lee, Longstreet, etc (I assume there aren't any Pickett statues after that fuck up at Gettsyburg) support slavery. The history of the South is not just what happened in the Civil War, but the entire issue of KKK and segregation that came after that, and that the statues represent the wrong side of it.

People are blind if they don't see that this administration has allowed people to be more vocal about their white supremacy. Step out of Cali and the Northwest and go to the deep South. That shit still exists.

But keep bashing liberals who were the real racists and then damn progressives for not allowing people to speak up for white supremacism.

How does an administration allow people free speech you fucking statist moron