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Fuck the 9th Circuit Court in the face

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  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 43,456 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2019
    Ok, so apparently the homeless can camp wherever and whenever "they" want. Whatever. Let's hypothetically say that's reasonable - even though, it's not.

    Where's the line on criminal behavior? Drug use in public places? Littering? Defecating and leaving feces everywhere? Looting to pay for their heroin addiction?

    What's the line of 'nowhere else to go" and just shitty fucked socially deviant behavior?

  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,869 Swaye's Wigwam

    Ok, so apparently the homeless can camp wherever and whenever "they" want. Whatever. Let's hypothetically say that's reasonable - even though, it's not.

    Where's the line on criminal behavior? Drug use in public places? Littering? Defecating and leaving feces everywhere? Looting to pay for their heroin addiction?

    What's the line of 'nowhere else to go" and just shitty fucked socially deviant behavior?

    They seem to imply that you can’t criminalize pooping if someone has nowhere else to poop. It’s totally FUBAR.
  • greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,309
    edited April 2019
    If enough people make their rounds at 3am leaning on their car horns, they’ll move.
  • AlexisAlexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,087 Swaye's Wigwam
    I think its a great defense for the next Frat Bro that gets an indecent exposure ticket for pissing on the back wall of a bar in the alley or gets popped for an open container. Fuck it, 9th district court says this is OK. It's my right.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 104,350 Founders Club
    Trump is changing the 9th one judge at a time
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,869 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited April 2019

    Currently going through this in OC. Fuck ballz judge Carter is using this as a means to pressure all of the cities into opening "navigation centers" bc they've worked so well in SF and LA to solve homelessness. HB just defeated their new proposed location literally adjacent to the High School.

    If this goes to SCOTUS and gets knocked down you can move me from sometimes Trump apologist to full on Trumpanzee.

    If Trump’s SCOTUS gets the bums out of Seattle I will buy a MAGA hat and wear it with pride.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,369 Swaye's Wigwam

    Currently going through this in OC. Fuck ballz judge Carter is using this as a means to pressure all of the cities into opening "navigation centers" bc they've worked so well in SF and LA to solve homelessness. HB just defeated their new proposed location literally adjacent to the High School.

    If this goes to SCOTUS and gets knocked down you can move me from sometimes Trump apologist to full on Trumpanzee.

    If Trump’s SCOTUS gets the bums out of Seattle I will buy a MAGA hat and wear it with pride.
    But I don't understand how you think SCOTUS is going to get rid of your city council.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,869 Swaye's Wigwam

    Currently going through this in OC. Fuck ballz judge Carter is using this as a means to pressure all of the cities into opening "navigation centers" bc they've worked so well in SF and LA to solve homelessness. HB just defeated their new proposed location literally adjacent to the High School.

    If this goes to SCOTUS and gets knocked down you can move me from sometimes Trump apologist to full on Trumpanzee.

    If Trump’s SCOTUS gets the bums out of Seattle I will buy a MAGA hat and wear it with pride.
    But I don't understand how you think SCOTUS is going to get rid of your city council.
    This was an attempt at humor you robot.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,369 Swaye's Wigwam

    Currently going through this in OC. Fuck ballz judge Carter is using this as a means to pressure all of the cities into opening "navigation centers" bc they've worked so well in SF and LA to solve homelessness. HB just defeated their new proposed location literally adjacent to the High School.

    If this goes to SCOTUS and gets knocked down you can move me from sometimes Trump apologist to full on Trumpanzee.

    If Trump’s SCOTUS gets the bums out of Seattle I will buy a MAGA hat and wear it with pride.
    But I don't understand how you think SCOTUS is going to get rid of your city council.
    This was an attempt at humor you robot.

  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,869 Swaye's Wigwam

    Currently going through this in OC. Fuck ballz judge Carter is using this as a means to pressure all of the cities into opening "navigation centers" bc they've worked so well in SF and LA to solve homelessness. HB just defeated their new proposed location literally adjacent to the High School.

    If this goes to SCOTUS and gets knocked down you can move me from sometimes Trump apologist to full on Trumpanzee.

    If Trump’s SCOTUS gets the bums out of Seattle I will buy a MAGA hat and wear it with pride.
    But I don't understand how you think SCOTUS is going to get rid of your city council.
    This was an attempt at humor you robot.

    Fuck Disneyland for killing Bear Country Jamboree.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 32,982 Standard Supporter
    When did it become a citites obligation to provide "shelters"?
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 19,850 Founders Club

    Currently going through this in OC. Fuck ballz judge Carter is using this as a means to pressure all of the cities into opening "navigation centers" bc they've worked so well in SF and LA to solve homelessness. HB just defeated their new proposed location literally adjacent to the High School.

    If this goes to SCOTUS and gets knocked down you can move me from sometimes Trump apologist to full on Trumpanzee.

    If Trump’s SCOTUS gets the bums out of Seattle I will buy a MAGA hat and wear it with pride.
    What about your two dads?
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,869 Swaye's Wigwam
    pawz said:

    Currently going through this in OC. Fuck ballz judge Carter is using this as a means to pressure all of the cities into opening "navigation centers" bc they've worked so well in SF and LA to solve homelessness. HB just defeated their new proposed location literally adjacent to the High School.

    If this goes to SCOTUS and gets knocked down you can move me from sometimes Trump apologist to full on Trumpanzee.

    If Trump’s SCOTUS gets the bums out of Seattle I will buy a MAGA hat and wear it with pride.
    What about your two dads?
    They voted for him.
  • Purple_PillsPurple_Pills Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,930 Founders Club
    As long as there is no option of sleeping indoors, the government cannot criminalize indigent, homeless people for sleeping outdoors, on public property, on the false premise they had a choice in the matter... A municipality cannot criminalize such behavior consistently with the Eighth Amendment when no sleeping space is practically available in any shelter.

    An easy end around for Boise is to make homeless shelters drug free and require a negative drug test for admittance. The shelters would be mostly empty allowing the city to evict the drug addicted homeless.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,940

    As long as there is no option of sleeping indoors, the government cannot criminalize indigent, homeless people for sleeping outdoors, on public property, on the false premise they had a choice in the matter... A municipality cannot criminalize such behavior consistently with the Eighth Amendment when no sleeping space is practically available in any shelter.

    An easy end around for Boise is to make homeless shelters drug free and require a negative drug test for admittance. The shelters would be mostly empty allowing the city to evict the drug addicted homeless.

    I can’t imagine that it’s much different in other areas but the homeless turn down spaces in shelters here in SF all the time, because they can’t do drugs and the can’t drink booze in the shelters

    They are making a choice to live on the streets because they can do whatever the fuck they want
  • Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Member Posts: 7,958 Standard Supporter
    I’m too lazy to look this up, but has anyone taken city governments to court for not enforcing the laws? I think of the boutique shop owner in the KOMO piece who had to move because of the damage done to her shop and how the crime drove away her customers. Could she sue for damages?

    I’d be interested to hear the HH in house counsel’s thoughts.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,850

    I’m too lazy to look this up, but has anyone taken city governments to court for not enforcing the laws? I think of the boutique shop owner in the KOMO piece who had to move because of the damage done to her shop and how the crime drove away her customers. Could she sue for damages?

    I’d be interested to hear the HH in house counsel’s thoughts.

    Focus on the bradley Cooper woman
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