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  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Disagree with Bush doing a good job last year. Where is this narrative coming from? C at best

    Disagree with Fuller sucking. He is pretty good but not a WR #1.

    AGREE on rest

    Fuller did not break a tackle last year. Which position do you want a guy who didn't break a tackle?

    Bush looked good to me and we had tons of people open, but Jake had a hard time doing anything. He wasn't perfect (Bush), but I thought he really improved as the season went on. Hard to do much when you can't throw more than 15 yards and everyone stacks the box and your QB shits himself.

    2nd half Rose Bowl Jake was as good as he's ever played because he stopped playing like a scared bitch and let it fly. And our dudes (even your boy Fuller) made plays on the ball (though Fuller still didn't break a tackle).

    I feel good about Bush... cautiously optimistic. But I can see how reasonable people would think otherwise. That's just my read of it.

    Fuller should be a slot except he can't break tackles or make moves after the catch.
    I'm in on Bush, I thought the play calling took real steps forward with the noted exceptions of Auburn and the first half at tOSU. I think he's going to be a good OC.

    The flip side is Browning probably regressed. I can't bring myself to say @Babushka was a better QB coach, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I was a little nervous about Bush at QB coach. That said, chin ability to unfuck Browning is hardly a failure.

    If Eason's good this year I'll be full blown Smush For Bush.
    I'm nervous about it myself... but I generally have a positive feeling.

    I think Browning regressed because his cramps just got a lot worse.

    But again, that's not based on hard evidence, just my feeling from watching closely.

    Also - I've heard (and it doesn't take a genius to surmise) that there was some trouble in paradise between Jake and Bush. I think Bush prefers QBs that play well and Jake was not amenable to that.

    When's the last time UW had a 4 year starter (or even a SR QB) get benched for not doing shit?

    I honestly can't recall.
    When's the last time UW had a 4 year starter at QB other than Jack and Jack? Brock is the only one I can think of who even had a shot to be one and he left after his junior year (and probably wasn't the best QB on the team at that point anyway).

    Dude's I can remember:

    Browning - 4 years
    Cyler - One year of FYFMFE
    Keif - 3 years
    Lockner - 4 (plus some Rainbow Ronnie!)
    Stanback - 2 (half year of Bonnell post chinjury)
    @Paws - Uno (Shudder )
    Pickett - 3
    Tui - 2 (Fuck Lambo for burning his redshirt. 2001 Tui with actual receivers would have been the fucking shit.)
    Brock - 3
    Damon - 3
    Brunell - 1 1/2
    Hobert - 1 1/2
    Conklin - 2
    Chandelier - 2
    Millen - 2ish
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Disagree with Bush doing a good job last year. Where is this narrative coming from? C at best

    Disagree with Fuller sucking. He is pretty good but not a WR #1.

    AGREE on rest

    Fuller did not break a tackle last year. Which position do you want a guy who didn't break a tackle?

    Bush looked good to me and we had tons of people open, but Jake had a hard time doing anything. He wasn't perfect (Bush), but I thought he really improved as the season went on. Hard to do much when you can't throw more than 15 yards and everyone stacks the box and your QB shits himself.

    2nd half Rose Bowl Jake was as good as he's ever played because he stopped playing like a scared bitch and let it fly. And our dudes (even your boy Fuller) made plays on the ball (though Fuller still didn't break a tackle).

    I feel good about Bush... cautiously optimistic. But I can see how reasonable people would think otherwise. That's just my read of it.

    Fuller should be a slot except he can't break tackles or make moves after the catch.
    I'm in on Bush, I thought the play calling took real steps forward with the noted exceptions of Auburn and the first half at tOSU. I think he's going to be a good OC.

    The flip side is Browning probably regressed. I can't bring myself to say @Babushka was a better QB coach, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I was a little nervous about Bush at QB coach. That said, chin ability to unfuck Browning is hardly a failure.

    If Eason's good this year I'll be full blown Smush For Bush.
    I'm nervous about it myself... but I generally have a positive feeling.

    I think Browning regressed because his cramps just got a lot worse.

    But again, that's not based on hard evidence, just my feeling from watching closely.

    Also - I've heard (and it doesn't take a genius to surmise) that there was some trouble in paradise between Jake and Bush. I think Bush prefers QBs that play well and Jake was not amenable to that.

    When's the last time UW had a 4 year starter (or even a SR QB) get benched for not doing shit?

    I honestly can't recall.
    When's the last time UW had a 4 year starter at QB other than Jack and Jack? Brock is the only one I can think of who even had a shot to be one and he left after his junior year (and probably wasn't the best QB on the team at that point anyway).

    Dude's I can remember:

    Browning - 4 years
    Cyler - One year of FYFMFE
    Keif - 3 years
    Lockner - 4 (plus some Rainbow Ronnie!)
    Stanback - 2 (half year of Bonnell post chinjury)
    @Paws - Uno (Shudder )
    Pickett - 3
    Tui - 2 (Fuck Lambo for burning his redshirt. 2001 Tui with actual receivers would have been the fucking shit.)
    Brock - 3
    Damon - 3
    Brunell - 1 1/2
    Hobert - 1 1/2
    Conklin - 2
    Chandelier - 2
    Millen - 2ish
    If you’re not still bitter about no Tui in 2001 you’re a fucking Duck fan.
    PuppyLove_LamboCock!!!! True???
  • DonLemonParty
    DonLemonParty Member Posts: 155

    Swaye said:

    Can't chin enough for the Dawgman narratives alone

    But the rest is good too

    Is there a website where we can read more of your stuff?

    Yes. bowdowntowashington.com - it's really good. PM me for a password.
    Um, why did I get a picture of three geriatric men fucking? Is that the password?
    When is that not the password redman?

  • DonLemonParty
    DonLemonParty Member Posts: 155
    Swaye said:

    Can't chin enough for the Dawgman narratives alone

    But the rest is good too

    Is there a website where we can read more of your stuff?

    Yes. bowdowntowashington.com - it's really good. PM me for a password.
    Um, why did I get a picture of three geriatric men fucking? Is that the password?

  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    Disagree with Bush doing a good job last year. Where is this narrative coming from? C at best

    Disagree with Fuller sucking. He is pretty good but not a WR #1.

    AGREE on rest

    Fuller did not break a tackle last year. Which position do you want a guy who didn't break a tackle?

    Bush looked good to me and we had tons of people open, but Jake had a hard time doing anything. He wasn't perfect (Bush), but I thought he really improved as the season went on. Hard to do much when you can't throw more than 15 yards and everyone stacks the box and your QB shits himself.

    2nd half Rose Bowl Jake was as good as he's ever played because he stopped playing like a scared bitch and let it fly. And our dudes (even your boy Fuller) made plays on the ball (though Fuller still didn't break a tackle).

    I feel good about Bush... cautiously optimistic. But I can see how reasonable people would think otherwise. That's just my read of it.

    Fuller should be a slot except he can't break tackles or make moves after the catch.

    Fuller doesn't break tackles, but he does get open, runs good routes, and makes some good catches. He doesn't suck. Needs to be more physical.

    Bush is TBD due to Browning, but even still I saw nothing from him that looked better than Smith
    Fuller made some nice, contested catches last year. He did fall off late. I still can’t get behind that he sucks. Ty Jones has never broken a tackle. He’s big and a 4 star so he gets sucked off.
    Ty CAN be great. Fuller isn’t likely to. That’s the difference.
  • Bread
    Bread Member Posts: 4,067
    No one has brought up Easons Lack of mobility? Could be an issue.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    Bread said:

    No one has brought up Easons Lack of mobility? Could be an issue.

    Given our OL we should have no problem with lead footed quarterbacks.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,670 Swaye's Wigwam
    Bread said:

    No one has brought up Easons Lack of mobility? Could be an issue.

    Is his lack of mobility even a real thing?
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    Disagree with Bush doing a good job last year. Where is this narrative coming from? C at best

    Disagree with Fuller sucking. He is pretty good but not a WR #1.

    AGREE on rest

    Fuller did not break a tackle last year. Which position do you want a guy who didn't break a tackle?

    Bush looked good to me and we had tons of people open, but Jake had a hard time doing anything. He wasn't perfect (Bush), but I thought he really improved as the season went on. Hard to do much when you can't throw more than 15 yards and everyone stacks the box and your QB shits himself.

    2nd half Rose Bowl Jake was as good as he's ever played because he stopped playing like a scared bitch and let it fly. And our dudes (even your boy Fuller) made plays on the ball (though Fuller still didn't break a tackle).

    I feel good about Bush... cautiously optimistic. But I can see how reasonable people would think otherwise. That's just my read of it.

    Fuller should be a slot except he can't break tackles or make moves after the catch.

    Fuller doesn't break tackles, but he does get open, runs good routes, and makes some good catches. He doesn't suck. Needs to be more physical.

    Bush is TBD due to Browning, but even still I saw nothing from him that looked better than Smith
    Fuller made some nice, contested catches last year. He did fall off late. I still can’t get behind that he sucks. Ty Jones has never broken a tackle. He’s big and a 4 star so he gets sucked off.
    Ty CAN be great. Fuller isn’t likely to. That’s the difference.
    Poor Fuller gets shit on because his dipshit position coaches could never recruit anyone better. Dude is maximizing his talent to the full(er)est and is a baller for a guy who wasn't blessed with the body of Ty Jones, the speed of Ross, or the hands of Dante.

    Please Bush, just find someone else who can emerge as a #1 target so we can appreciate Fuller in the role he's supposed to be in.
    This.

    He aint a #1, but he could be a good #2 or phenomenal 3
    He wouldn’t be top 3 for Ohio State, Oklahoma, Texas, Bama or Clemson.
  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,142

    Disagree with Bush doing a good job last year. Where is this narrative coming from? C at best

    Disagree with Fuller sucking. He is pretty good but not a WR #1.

    AGREE on rest

    Fuller did not break a tackle last year. Which position do you want a guy who didn't break a tackle?

    Bush looked good to me and we had tons of people open, but Jake had a hard time doing anything. He wasn't perfect (Bush), but I thought he really improved as the season went on. Hard to do much when you can't throw more than 15 yards and everyone stacks the box and your QB shits himself.

    2nd half Rose Bowl Jake was as good as he's ever played because he stopped playing like a scared bitch and let it fly. And our dudes (even your boy Fuller) made plays on the ball (though Fuller still didn't break a tackle).

    I feel good about Bush... cautiously optimistic. But I can see how reasonable people would think otherwise. That's just my read of it.

    Fuller should be a slot except he can't break tackles or make moves after the catch.

    Fuller doesn't break tackles, but he does get open, runs good routes, and makes some good catches. He doesn't suck. Needs to be more physical.

    Bush is TBD due to Browning, but even still I saw nothing from him that looked better than Smith
    Fuller made some nice, contested catches last year. He did fall off late. I still can’t get behind that he sucks. Ty Jones has never broken a tackle. He’s big and a 4 star so he gets sucked off.
    Ty CAN be great. Fuller isn’t likely to. That’s the difference.
    Poor Fuller gets shit on because his dipshit position coaches could never recruit anyone better. Dude is maximizing his talent to the full(er)est and is a baller for a guy who wasn't blessed with the body of Ty Jones, the speed of Ross, or the hands of Dante.

    Please Bush, just find someone else who can emerge as a #1 target so we can appreciate Fuller in the role he's supposed to be in.
    This.

    He aint a #1, but he could be a good #2 or phenomenal 3
    He wouldn’t be top 3 for Ohio State, Oklahoma, Texas, Bama or Clemson.

    We don't need him to be if our defense is better than 4 out of 5 of those teams, which IMO it is
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,068
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    Can't chin enough for the Dawgman narratives alone

    But the rest is good too

    Is there a website where we can read more of your stuff?

    Yes. bowdowntowashington.com - it's really good. PM me for a password.
    Um, why did I get a picture of three geriatric men fucking? Is that the password?
    Keep this on the downlow, but the master password is MargMeltdown010119

    Wood
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    Disagree with Bush doing a good job last year. Where is this narrative coming from? C at best

    Disagree with Fuller sucking. He is pretty good but not a WR #1.

    AGREE on rest

    Fuller did not break a tackle last year. Which position do you want a guy who didn't break a tackle?

    Bush looked good to me and we had tons of people open, but Jake had a hard time doing anything. He wasn't perfect (Bush), but I thought he really improved as the season went on. Hard to do much when you can't throw more than 15 yards and everyone stacks the box and your QB shits himself.

    2nd half Rose Bowl Jake was as good as he's ever played because he stopped playing like a scared bitch and let it fly. And our dudes (even your boy Fuller) made plays on the ball (though Fuller still didn't break a tackle).

    I feel good about Bush... cautiously optimistic. But I can see how reasonable people would think otherwise. That's just my read of it.

    Fuller should be a slot except he can't break tackles or make moves after the catch.

    Fuller doesn't break tackles, but he does get open, runs good routes, and makes some good catches. He doesn't suck. Needs to be more physical.

    Bush is TBD due to Browning, but even still I saw nothing from him that looked better than Smith
    Fuller made some nice, contested catches last year. He did fall off late. I still can’t get behind that he sucks. Ty Jones has never broken a tackle. He’s big and a 4 star so he gets sucked off.
    Ty CAN be great. Fuller isn’t likely to. That’s the difference.
    Poor Fuller gets shit on because his dipshit position coaches could never recruit anyone better. Dude is maximizing his talent to the full(er)est and is a baller for a guy who wasn't blessed with the body of Ty Jones, the speed of Ross, or the hands of Dante.

    Please Bush, just find someone else who can emerge as a #1 target so we can appreciate Fuller in the role he's supposed to be in.
    This.

    He aint a #1, but he could be a good #2 or phenomenal 3
    He wouldn’t be top 3 for Ohio State, Oklahoma, Texas, Bama or Clemson.
    We can never be that good. I just want to win the Pac and maybe win a Rose Bowl someday. As long as the kids graduate and have fun and learn about life I'm good too
    Race gets it.
  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,230 Founders Club
    Look DDY, if you are going to do true Doogman narratives, you have to include ball washing on some walk-ons before you mention/forget the blue chippers. You can't go half Kimmy, has to be full Kimmy. Love it though and thanks for the pre dental entertainment.
  • CaptainPJ
    CaptainPJ Member Posts: 2,986

    Disagree with Bush doing a good job last year. Where is this narrative coming from? C at best

    Disagree with Fuller sucking. He is pretty good but not a WR #1.

    AGREE on rest

    Fuller did not break a tackle last year. Which position do you want a guy who didn't break a tackle?

    Bush looked good to me and we had tons of people open, but Jake had a hard time doing anything. He wasn't perfect (Bush), but I thought he really improved as the season went on. Hard to do much when you can't throw more than 15 yards and everyone stacks the box and your QB shits himself.

    2nd half Rose Bowl Jake was as good as he's ever played because he stopped playing like a scared bitch and let it fly. And our dudes (even your boy Fuller) made plays on the ball (though Fuller still didn't break a tackle).

    I feel good about Bush... cautiously optimistic. But I can see how reasonable people would think otherwise. That's just my read of it.

    Fuller should be a slot except he can't break tackles or make moves after the catch.

    Fuller doesn't break tackles, but he does get open, runs good routes, and makes some good catches. He doesn't suck. Needs to be more physical.

    Bush is TBD due to Browning, but even still I saw nothing from him that looked better than Smith
    Fuller made some nice, contested catches last year. He did fall off late. I still can’t get behind that he sucks. Ty Jones has never broken a tackle. He’s big and a 4 star so he gets sucked off.
    Ty CAN be great. Fuller isn’t likely to. That’s the difference.
    Poor Fuller gets shit on because his dipshit position coaches could never recruit anyone better. Dude is maximizing his talent to the full(er)est and is a baller for a guy who wasn't blessed with the body of Ty Jones, the speed of Ross, or the hands of Dante.

    Please Bush, just find someone else who can emerge as a #1 target so we can appreciate Fuller in the role he's supposed to be in.
    This.

    He aint a #1, but he could be a good #2 or phenomenal 3
    He wouldn’t be top 3 for Ohio State, Oklahoma, Texas, Bama or Clemson.
    We can never be that good. I just want to win the Pac and maybe win a Rose Bowl someday. As long as the kids graduate and have fun and Bang Orientals I'm good too
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,670 Swaye's Wigwam
    Bread said:

    chuck said:

    Bread said:

    No one has brought up Easons Lack of mobility? Could be an issue.

    Is his lack of mobility even a real thing?
    I would think so. UW med school is pretty great, but how much mobility can a guy with no legs have.
    I have no idea what I'm missing here.
  • TacoSoup
    TacoSoup Member Posts: 148
    edited March 2019

    Disagree with Bush doing a good job last year. Where is this narrative coming from? C at best

    Disagree with Fuller sucking. He is pretty good but not a WR #1.

    AGREE on rest

    Fuller did not break a tackle last year. Which position do you want a guy who didn't break a tackle?

    Bush looked good to me and we had tons of people open, but Jake had a hard time doing anything. He wasn't perfect (Bush), but I thought he really improved as the season went on. Hard to do much when you can't throw more than 15 yards and everyone stacks the box and your QB shits himself.

    2nd half Rose Bowl Jake was as good as he's ever played because he stopped playing like a scared bitch and let it fly. And our dudes (even your boy Fuller) made plays on the ball (though Fuller still didn't break a tackle).

    I feel good about Bush... cautiously optimistic. But I can see how reasonable people would think otherwise. That's just my read of it.

    Fuller should be a slot except he can't break tackles or make moves after the catch.
    Apple Cup was also another reason for optimism IMO. CP mentioned after that the game plan went out the window and the offense got better as the game went on (coach platitudes aside).

    Apparently only snow simplifys our? offense :neutral:
  • TacoSoup
    TacoSoup Member Posts: 148

    Ariel to ILB is the move. IIRC, (when) he played last year, it was mostly in-space/from depth. Results were mixed but he is the type of athlete we? need playing in the middle. Also, we're? down to 6 OLB's listed on the roster... 2 haven't even shown up yet.

    I'm not really worried about OLB numbers going forward. It would be nice to get a prototype SAM & BUCK every year, but when that doesn't happen I'd rather have a talented DT than a JAG OLB. Our coaches have adjusted well to where our talent is, playing 335 in base downs when we don't have great OLBs. Like Benning is basically going to be a OLB still on base downs, hopefully we just take him out on passing downs.
    To clarify, it was an observation, not an opinion or indictment.

    Last year, after Amadre left, we? only had 5/6 on the roster. To me, it’s indicative of a strategy + roster management change