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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
    The people who see Trump walking away and think he looks tough instead of like a petulant child are in fantasy land.
    And if Trump would have accepted the deal of removing all sanctions in return for them closing a single Nuke site you and everyone else would have trashed him. Some times walking away from a bad deal is the best move.
    I'd love to negotiate with a lot of the folks here

    Their child like wonder at how the world works is amusing

    Trump is wrong whatever he does. Let's go with that and save everyone from lobbing cow farts here trying to justify it
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    I still think Donnie is a cock sucker as a human being, but you can't fault every move he makes.

    Probably not what you want to hear but you and I are in agreement.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    This is a bit of an intractable issue. I agree with the "damned if you do; damned if you don't" comments. This is a hard one on which to expect "winning!" really from anyone.

    Isolationism and sanctions have not worked. Bombing the shit out of them at some key point in history is fun to talk about but harder to do in practice.

    I'll give Trump credit for meeting with him; I have from the beginning. I had some of the same initial concerns about giving Un the attention he clearly wants from a big-boy country, but on the margin it seems to have calmed tensions, which is a great start.

    This is something Trump won't be able to finish, likely not even if he gets another 4 years. But I'm not sure how we can say his effort was "half-assed". None of us were there, none of us are privy to the planning and discussions with real grown ups like Pompeo, etc.

    And I absolutely think it's smart to walk away when it's time to walk away. I'm not a litigator, so I haven't been in a ton of arbitrations/mediations, but I've been in a few, and we walked away in some of them because it was time. All of those were eventually resolved on reasonable terms.

    And I got the sense that the walk-away wasn't hostile and that he's actually building a relationship with Un. Of course, they are not going to give up any time soon the very thing that got the US to the table to begin with. It's going to take a lot of diplomacy and time to make this a non-threat.

    The second world has Nukes now. We're not the only ones anymore, and that's the new normal. We have to deal with it.

    I think you have to give credit and lay blame when it merits. Otherwise, we're all just a cluster fuck. I still think Donnie is a cock sucker as a human being, but you can't fault every move he makes. That's FS.

    Your chintegrity isn't welcome here cuog!
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    I read that as I still think Damone is a cock sucker

    I like reasonable creepy even if he cow farts here
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    This is a bit of an intractable issue. I agree with the "damned if you do; damned if you don't" comments. This is a hard one on which to expect "winning!" really from anyone.

    Isolationism and sanctions have not worked. Bombing the shit out of them at some key point in history is fun to talk about but harder to do in practice.

    I'll give Trump credit for meeting with him; I have from the beginning. I had some of the same initial concerns about giving Un the attention he clearly wants from a big-boy country, but on the margin it seems to have calmed tensions, which is a great start.

    This is something Trump won't be able to finish, likely not even if he gets another 4 years. But I'm not sure how we can say his effort was "half-assed". None of us were there, none of us are privy to the planning and discussions with real grown ups like Pompeo, etc.

    And I absolutely think it's smart to walk away when it's time to walk away. I'm not a litigator, so I haven't been in a ton of arbitrations/mediations, but I've been in a few, and we walked away in some of them because it was time. All of those were eventually resolved on reasonable terms.

    And I got the sense that the walk-away wasn't hostile and that he's actually building a relationship with Un. Of course, they are not going to give up any time soon the very thing that got the US to the table to begin with. It's going to take a lot of diplomacy and time to make this a non-threat.

    The second world has Nukes now. We're not the only ones anymore, and that's the new normal. We have to deal with it.

    I think you have to give credit and lay blame when it merits. Otherwise, we're all just a cluster fuck. I still think Donnie is a cock sucker as a human being, but you can't fault every move he makes. That's FS.

    Your chintegrity isn't welcome here cuog!
    Should I LEAVE!!!!!!!
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    I read that as I still think Damone is a cock sucker

    I like reasonable creepy even if he cow farts here

    Damone is living rent free in my head.

    Imagine caring about that.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,754 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    This is the kind of negotiation HardlyClothed loved:


    Uh, yeah, meeting with them is fine. If we had made a reasonable deal in the 90’s we wouldn’t have a nuclear armed NK now.
    If we would have bombed all their fucking facilities and dropped one on their leader NK would be free now.
    Love to see the bloodthirsty advocation for the death of millions on here
    Death of millions? They didn't have nukes then. They were trying to build them. HTH
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,009 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
    Yeah you are right. Trump should have just drawn 5 different red lines and called it a day right? Or handed them 400 million in the middle of the night when the American people had no idea what was happening. Or in the case of Putin, kiss his ass off mic when he thinks no one is listening and inform him that he will give up our missile protection once he is re-elected and the American people can do nothing about it.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    This is the kind of negotiation HardlyClothed loved:


    Uh, yeah, meeting with them is fine. If we had made a reasonable deal in the 90’s we wouldn’t have a nuclear armed NK now.
    If we would have bombed all their fucking facilities and dropped one on their leader NK would be free now.
    Love to see the bloodthirsty advocation for the death of millions on here
    Death of millions? They didn't have nukes then. They were trying to build them. HTH
    The Chinese did.
  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441

    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
    Yeah you are right. Trump should have just drawn 5 different red lines and called it a day right? Or handed them 400 million in the middle of the night when the American people had no idea what was happening. Or in the case of Putin, kiss his ass off mic when he thinks no one is listening and inform him that he will give up our missile protection once he is re-elected and the American people can do nothing about it.
    Let it all out, little buddy
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,009 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
    Yeah you are right. Trump should have just drawn 5 different red lines and called it a day right? Or handed them 400 million in the middle of the night when the American people had no idea what was happening. Or in the case of Putin, kiss his ass off mic when he thinks no one is listening and inform him that he will give up our missile protection once he is re-elected and the American people can do nothing about it.
    Let it all out, little buddy
    When you can't compete because you are a total hypocrite, call someone a "little buddy". Looking good there Gawd. Real good.
  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441

    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
    Yeah you are right. Trump should have just drawn 5 different red lines and called it a day right? Or handed them 400 million in the middle of the night when the American people had no idea what was happening. Or in the case of Putin, kiss his ass off mic when he thinks no one is listening and inform him that he will give up our missile protection once he is re-elected and the American people can do nothing about it.
    Let it all out, little buddy
    When you can't compete because you are a total hypocrite, call someone a "little buddy". Looking good there Gawd. Real good.
    I'm not really into responding seriously to people who throw a bunch of shit at the wall and expect me to clean it up. Sorry, dude.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
    Yeah you are right. Trump should have just drawn 5 different red lines and called it a day right? Or handed them 400 million in the middle of the night when the American people had no idea what was happening. Or in the case of Putin, kiss his ass off mic when he thinks no one is listening and inform him that he will give up our missile protection once he is re-elected and the American people can do nothing about it.
    Let it all out, little buddy
    When you can't compete because you are a total hypocrite, call someone a "little buddy". Looking good there Gawd. Real good.
    I'm not really into responding seriously to people who throw a bunch of shit at the wall and expect me to clean it up. Sorry, dude.
    Welcome to your first week here
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,009 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
    Yeah you are right. Trump should have just drawn 5 different red lines and called it a day right? Or handed them 400 million in the middle of the night when the American people had no idea what was happening. Or in the case of Putin, kiss his ass off mic when he thinks no one is listening and inform him that he will give up our missile protection once he is re-elected and the American people can do nothing about it.
    Let it all out, little buddy
    When you can't compete because you are a total hypocrite, call someone a "little buddy". Looking good there Gawd. Real good.
    I'm not really into responding seriously to people who throw a bunch of shit at the wall and expect me to clean it up. Sorry, dude.
    LOL! What a mental pussy.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
    Yeah you are right. Trump should have just drawn 5 different red lines and called it a day right? Or handed them 400 million in the middle of the night when the American people had no idea what was happening. Or in the case of Putin, kiss his ass off mic when he thinks no one is listening and inform him that he will give up our missile protection once he is re-elected and the American people can do nothing about it.
    Let it all out, little buddy
    When you can't compete because you are a total hypocrite, call someone a "little buddy". Looking good there Gawd. Real good.
    That's pretty much this Kunt's entire act.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
    Yeah you are right. Trump should have just drawn 5 different red lines and called it a day right? Or handed them 400 million in the middle of the night when the American people had no idea what was happening. Or in the case of Putin, kiss his ass off mic when he thinks no one is listening and inform him that he will give up our missile protection once he is re-elected and the American people can do nothing about it.
    Let it all out, little buddy
    When you can't compete because you are a total hypocrite, call someone a "little buddy". Looking good there Gawd. Real good.
    I'm not really into responding seriously to people who throw a bunch of shit at the wall and expect me to clean it up. Sorry, dude.
    You mean like claiming that all the segregationist switched parties after the 1964 Civil Rights Act, or are you talking about calling people racists when you have no evidence in support of that charge? Are you really this unaware of your own actions here?
  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441

    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
    Yeah you are right. Trump should have just drawn 5 different red lines and called it a day right? Or handed them 400 million in the middle of the night when the American people had no idea what was happening. Or in the case of Putin, kiss his ass off mic when he thinks no one is listening and inform him that he will give up our missile protection once he is re-elected and the American people can do nothing about it.
    Let it all out, little buddy
    When you can't compete because you are a total hypocrite, call someone a "little buddy". Looking good there Gawd. Real good.
    I'm not really into responding seriously to people who throw a bunch of shit at the wall and expect me to clean it up. Sorry, dude.
    Welcome to your first week here
    That's fair. I didnt intend to stay but there is something charming about this place
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
    Yeah you are right. Trump should have just drawn 5 different red lines and called it a day right? Or handed them 400 million in the middle of the night when the American people had no idea what was happening. Or in the case of Putin, kiss his ass off mic when he thinks no one is listening and inform him that he will give up our missile protection once he is re-elected and the American people can do nothing about it.
    Let it all out, little buddy
    When you can't compete because you are a total hypocrite, call someone a "little buddy". Looking good there Gawd. Real good.
    I'm not really into responding seriously to people who throw a bunch of shit at the wall and expect me to clean it up. Sorry, dude.
    Welcome to your first week here
    That's fair. I didnt intend to stay but there is something charming about this place
    You got a chin for that

    Its a hard place to quit
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
    Yeah you are right. Trump should have just drawn 5 different red lines and called it a day right? Or handed them 400 million in the middle of the night when the American people had no idea what was happening. Or in the case of Putin, kiss his ass off mic when he thinks no one is listening and inform him that he will give up our missile protection once he is re-elected and the American people can do nothing about it.
    Let it all out, little buddy
    When you can't compete because you are a total hypocrite, call someone a "little buddy". Looking good there Gawd. Real good.
    I'm not really into responding seriously to people who throw a bunch of shit at the wall and expect me to clean it up. Sorry, dude.
    Welcome to your first week here
    That's fair. I didnt intend to stay but there is something charming about this place
    You got a chin for that

    Its a hard place to quit
    So it appears
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    If you stay up your fucking game. This board is already full of liberal Kunts who can't back up their mouths, and cut the fucking minding act. You don't know what I think or believe. So don't even try to tell me that you do.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
    Yeah you are right. Trump should have just drawn 5 different red lines and called it a day right? Or handed them 400 million in the middle of the night when the American people had no idea what was happening. Or in the case of Putin, kiss his ass off mic when he thinks no one is listening and inform him that he will give up our missile protection once he is re-elected and the American people can do nothing about it.
    Let it all out, little buddy
    When you can't compete because you are a total hypocrite, call someone a "little buddy". Looking good there Gawd. Real good.
    I'm not really into responding seriously to people who throw a bunch of shit at the wall and expect me to clean it up. Sorry, dude.
    Welcome to your first week here
    That's fair. I didnt intend to stay but there is something charming about this place

  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441

    SFGbob said:

    Btw, that argument about Trump legitimizing NK is pure Rat talking points. Trump is criticized if he makes a deal because he will have given up too much according to his critics and he is criticized if he walks away from a deal because Trump legitimized NK.

    I'm fine with him or any president trying. But it's been so half-assed and amateurish. Even you have to admit this.
    Yeah you are right. Trump should have just drawn 5 different red lines and called it a day right? Or handed them 400 million in the middle of the night when the American people had no idea what was happening. Or in the case of Putin, kiss his ass off mic when he thinks no one is listening and inform him that he will give up our missile protection once he is re-elected and the American people can do nothing about it.
    Let it all out, little buddy
    When you can't compete because you are a total hypocrite, call someone a "little buddy". Looking good there Gawd. Real good.
    I'm not really into responding seriously to people who throw a bunch of shit at the wall and expect me to clean it up. Sorry, dude.
    LOL! What a mental pussy.
    Each one of those "points" requires a long post by itself to respond to. What would you do when the person on the other end has only shown interest in venting his angry thoughts?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    Can we stop calling each other angry when we are on a bored that is about discussion every time someone discusses something?

    It makes you sound angry
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    I am hopeful that this week’s disappointment doesn’t damage trump’s “special relationship” with North Korea and Kim Jong Un. They fell in love!

    Also, trump says Kim Jong Un told him he had nothing to do with the torture and death of Otto Warmbier. Trump takes him at his word.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    I am hopeful that this week’s disappointment doesn’t damage trump’s “special relationship” with North Korea and Kim Jong Un. They fell in love!

    Also, trump says Kim Jong Un told him he had nothing to do with the torture and death of Otto Warmbier. Trump takes him at his word.

    Why so angry?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    I am hopeful that this week’s disappointment doesn’t damage trump’s “special relationship” with North Korea and Kim Jong Un. They fell in love!

    Also, trump says Kim Jong Un told him he had nothing to do with the torture and death of Otto Warmbier. Trump takes him at his word.

    Why so angry?
    I was told trump was going to end the Korean War yesterday. So disappointing. At least we can take comfort in the fact that Kim Jong Un had nothing to with otto’s death. Trump takes him at his word.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    I am hopeful that this week’s disappointment doesn’t damage trump’s “special relationship” with North Korea and Kim Jong Un. They fell in love!

    Also, trump says Kim Jong Un told him he had nothing to do with the torture and death of Otto Warmbier. Trump takes him at his word.

    Why so angry?
    I was told trump was going to end the Korean War yesterday. So disappointing. At least we can take comfort in the fact that Kim Jong Un had nothing to with otto’s death. Trump takes him at his word.
    I was told he was going to sell out America to make any deal he could

    Sounds like our news sources were lying to us or we didn't read for comprehension