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83% of dems in SC, CA, IA, NV, NH more likely to support pres cand that’s for the Green New Deal

allpurpleallgold
allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf

Uh oh.

B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!

Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter

    http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf

    Uh oh.

    B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!

    Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.

    Socialism doesn't fit with the constitution. HTH
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    The Green New Deal sounds like it was written by a bunch of hippie 19 year olds who just got done smoking a very potent blunt.

    You haven't actually read the document. Idiot.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Sledog said:

    http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf

    Uh oh.

    B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!

    Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.

    Socialism doesn't fit with the constitution. HTH
    You haven’t actually read the document. Idiot.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf

    Uh oh.

    B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!

    Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.

    Socialism doesn't fit with the constitution. HTH
    You haven’t actually read the document. Idiot.
    You haven't actually read the constitution. Maroon.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf

    Uh oh.

    B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!

    Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.

    Socialism doesn't fit with the constitution. HTH
    You haven’t actually read the document. Idiot.
    You haven't actually read the constitution. Maroon.
    I'd like to see your case on how the GND isn't constitutional. Quoting the GND and the Constitution would be welcomed.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf

    Uh oh.

    B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!

    Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.

    Socialism doesn't fit with the constitution. HTH
    You haven’t actually read the document. Idiot.
    You haven't actually read the constitution. Maroon.
    I'd like to see your case on how the GND isn't constitutional. Quoting the GND and the Constitution would be welcomed.
    Third amendment, the right to own cows. Dumb fucking libtard.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited February 2019
    Aren't like 75% of Dems for that retarded legislation anyway?

    The legislation on the surface looks great, especially for those that want clean energy. The problem is once the actual costs get out, how many middle class people are willing to pay additional taxes and higher energy costs? Don't tell me only the rich will pay, because the rich will find a way not to pay, that's why they are rich. This shit will have to get passed to the middle class, and there is no way in hell that they'll go for it.

    People vote on morals, likability, social concerns, but the most heavily valued driver of votes has and always will be money. Sure, the bluest of blue states will go for it even after these numbers are advertised. However, this will never get approval from swings states, and at least for another 10-15 years there are still enough swing states to matter.
  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441

    Aren't like 75% of Dems for that retarded legislation anyway?

    The legislation on the surface looks great, especially for those that want clean energy. The problem is once the actual costs get out, how many middle class people are willing to pay additional taxes and higher energy costs? Don't tell me only the rich will pay, because the rich will find a way not to pay, that's why they are rich. This shit will have to get passed to the middle class, and there is no way in hell that they'll go for it.

    People vote on morals, likability, social concerns, but the most heavily valued driver of votes has and always will be money. Sure, the bluest of blue states will go for it even after these numbers are advertised. However, this will never get approval from swings states, and at least for another 10-15 years there are still enough swing states to matter.

    Why even have taxes if some people aren't going to pay them? Why even have laws?
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    Aren't like 75% of Dems for that retarded legislation anyway?

    The legislation on the surface looks great, especially for those that want clean energy. The problem is once the actual costs get out, how many middle class people are willing to pay additional taxes and higher energy costs? Don't tell me only the rich will pay, because the rich will find a way not to pay, that's why they are rich. This shit will have to get passed to the middle class, and there is no way in hell that they'll go for it.

    People vote on morals, likability, social concerns, but the most heavily valued driver of votes has and always will be money. Sure, the bluest of blue states will go for it even after these numbers are advertised. However, this will never get approval from swings states, and at least for another 10-15 years there are still enough swing states to matter.

    Why even have taxes if some people aren't going to pay them? Why even have laws?
    It's almost like when you have money you can hire professionals so some laws don't have to pertain to you. Strange isn't it?
  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441

    Aren't like 75% of Dems for that retarded legislation anyway?

    The legislation on the surface looks great, especially for those that want clean energy. The problem is once the actual costs get out, how many middle class people are willing to pay additional taxes and higher energy costs? Don't tell me only the rich will pay, because the rich will find a way not to pay, that's why they are rich. This shit will have to get passed to the middle class, and there is no way in hell that they'll go for it.

    People vote on morals, likability, social concerns, but the most heavily valued driver of votes has and always will be money. Sure, the bluest of blue states will go for it even after these numbers are advertised. However, this will never get approval from swings states, and at least for another 10-15 years there are still enough swing states to matter.

    Why even have taxes if some people aren't going to pay them? Why even have laws?
    It's almost like when you have money you can hire professionals so some laws don't have to pertain to you. Strange isn't it?
    That's not really answering the question, but I'm guessing you know that
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Aren't like 75% of Dems for that retarded legislation anyway?

    The legislation on the surface looks great, especially for those that want clean energy. The problem is once the actual costs get out, how many middle class people are willing to pay additional taxes and higher energy costs? Don't tell me only the rich will pay, because the rich will find a way not to pay, that's why they are rich. This shit will have to get passed to the middle class, and there is no way in hell that they'll go for it.

    People vote on morals, likability, social concerns, but the most heavily valued driver of votes has and always will be money. Sure, the bluest of blue states will go for it even after these numbers are advertised. However, this will never get approval from swings states, and at least for another 10-15 years there are still enough swing states to matter.

    Why even have taxes if some people aren't going to pay them? Why even have laws?
    I'm hearing taxes are only collected at the threat of violence.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited February 2019

    Aren't like 75% of Dems for that retarded legislation anyway?

    The legislation on the surface looks great, especially for those that want clean energy. The problem is once the actual costs get out, how many middle class people are willing to pay additional taxes and higher energy costs? Don't tell me only the rich will pay, because the rich will find a way not to pay, that's why they are rich. This shit will have to get passed to the middle class, and there is no way in hell that they'll go for it.

    People vote on morals, likability, social concerns, but the most heavily valued driver of votes has and always will be money. Sure, the bluest of blue states will go for it even after these numbers are advertised. However, this will never get approval from swings states, and at least for another 10-15 years there are still enough swing states to matter.

    Why even have taxes if some people aren't going to pay them? Why even have laws?
    It's almost like when you have money you can hire professionals so some laws don't have to pertain to you. Strange isn't it?
    That's not really answering the question, but I'm guessing you know that
    You should have answered mine first, but whatever.

    Middle class people in general are not going to want clean energy in exchange for a higher tax and energy cost burden. It has high approval now, because most don't think they'll pay for it. This is the main reason Bernie lost to Hillary in the primary. You can't be mainstream and support large tax increases. Bernie and AOC get a lot of press and viewership, but they only attract the loud minority of the party. Their policies like this sound great and hit at the moral heartstrings, but as more as more information comes out on it, people back off their pledge for it.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,206 Founders Club
    Might as well not even vote on it is what I'm hearing. I look forward to it getting passed in congress very soon.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    Might as well not even vote on it is what I'm hearing. I look forward to it getting passed in congress very soon.

    That's exactly what would happen
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf

    Uh oh.

    B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!

    Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.

    Wow imagine that. A majority of all people who say they support puppies and ice cream. Do you know how fucking stupid and worthless these kind of polls are? You ask people if they would support transitioning all of American energy needs to renewable and green friendly sources in the next 15 years and damn if you don't get a majority of people to say that they'd support it.

    Now ask them that exact same question and only ask them if they'd still support it if it meant that they'd be paying twice as much for their energy cost or that they'd have to have an electric car.

    The fact that you think this polls are of any significance reveals you for the lightweight you are dude.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Anyone on the left that doesn’t vote for it is going to get primaried by someone that does support it. You better hope it becomes unpopular.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf

    Uh oh.

    B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!

    Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.

    Socialism doesn't fit with the constitution. HTH
    You haven’t actually read the document. Idiot.
    You haven't actually read the constitution. Maroon.
    I'd like to see your case on how the GND isn't constitutional. Quoting the GND and the Constitution would be welcomed.
    That whole redistribution of wealth and equal treatment under the law shit might be important.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    AOC said polls showed 70% of New Yorkers didn't want Amazon
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Anyone on the left that doesn’t vote for it is going to get primaried by someone that does support it. You better hope it becomes unpopular.

    Good, because when the public finds out just how expensive it is going to be and just how intrusive and authoritative the Federal Government will have in order to enforce and enact it, it will make the plan and anyone who supports it radioactive politically.

    Btw, anyone else find it odd how CD you loves to rail about the abusive Federal Government never has any words of opposition to shit like the GND. It's almost as if he is nothing more than a fucking fraud.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf

    Uh oh.

    B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!

    Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.

    Wow imagine that. A majority of all people who say they support puppies and ice cream. Do you know how fucking stupid and worthless these kind of polls are? You ask people if they would support transitioning all of American energy needs to renewable and green friendly sources in the next 15 years and damn if you don't get a majority of people to say that they'd support it.

    Now ask them that exact same question and only ask them if they'd still support it if it meant that they'd be paying twice as much for their energy cost or that they'd have to have an electric car.

    The fact that you think this polls are of any significance reveals you for the lightweight you are dude.
    why do you lie? Lil lyin Bob.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,082
    Swaye said:

    I can't even read.

    @Swaye 's people signed the Treaty of Olympia with an "X". A little sensitivity for our Red brother's feerings, please.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf

    Uh oh.

    B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!

    Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.

    Wow imagine that. A majority of all people who say they support puppies and ice cream. Do you know how fucking stupid and worthless these kind of polls are? You ask people if they would support transitioning all of American energy needs to renewable and green friendly sources in the next 15 years and damn if you don't get a majority of people to say that they'd support it.

    Now ask them that exact same question and only ask them if they'd still support it if it meant that they'd be paying twice as much for their energy cost or that they'd have to have an electric car.

    The fact that you think this polls are of any significance reveals you for the lightweight you are dude.
    why do you lie? Lil lyin Bob.
    Why do you suck cock Hondo?
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    Anyone on the left that doesn’t vote for it is going to get primaried by someone that does support it. You better hope it becomes unpopular.

    I hope it stays popular until the general election. These heavy progressive candidates might be able to get a small majority in a primary, but will get absolutely destroyed in a general election.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979

    Aren't like 75% of Dems for that retarded legislation anyway?

    The legislation on the surface looks great, especially for those that want clean energy. The problem is once the actual costs get out, how many middle class people are willing to pay additional taxes and higher energy costs? Don't tell me only the rich will pay, because the rich will find a way not to pay, that's why they are rich. This shit will have to get passed to the middle class, and there is no way in hell that they'll go for it.

    People vote on morals, likability, social concerns, but the most heavily valued driver of votes has and always will be money. Sure, the bluest of blue states will go for it even after these numbers are advertised. However, this will never get approval from swings states, and at least for another 10-15 years there are still enough swing states to matter.

    Why even have taxes if some people aren't going to pay them? Why even have laws?
    It's almost like when you have money you can hire professionals so some laws don't have to pertain to you. Strange isn't it?
    Stop criticizing my clients.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf

    Uh oh.

    B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!

    Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.

    Wow imagine that. A majority of all people who say they support puppies and ice cream. Do you know how fucking stupid and worthless these kind of polls are? You ask people if they would support transitioning all of American energy needs to renewable and green friendly sources in the next 15 years and damn if you don't get a majority of people to say that they'd support it.

    Now ask them that exact same question and only ask them if they'd still support it if it meant that they'd be paying twice as much for their energy cost or that they'd have to have an electric car.

    The fact that you think this polls are of any significance reveals you for the lightweight you are dude.
    why do you lie? Lil lyin Bob.
    Why do you suck cock Hondo?
    So instead of posting support for your comment. You resort to Homophobic comments.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf

    Uh oh.

    B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!

    Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.

    Socialism doesn't fit with the constitution. HTH
    You haven’t actually read the document. Idiot.
    You haven't actually read the constitution. Maroon.
    I'd like to see your case on how the GND isn't constitutional. Quoting the GND and the Constitution would be welcomed.
    That whole redistribution of wealth and equal treatment under the law shit might be important.

    The redistribution of wealth clause of the Constitution? Can you remind us what it says?
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf

    Uh oh.

    B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!

    Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.

    Socialism doesn't fit with the constitution. HTH
    You haven’t actually read the document. Idiot.
    You haven't actually read the constitution. Maroon.
    I'd like to see your case on how the GND isn't constitutional. Quoting the GND and the Constitution would be welcomed.
    That whole redistribution of wealth and equal treatment under the law shit might be important.

    The redistribution of wealth clause of the Constitution? Can you remind us what it says?
    Combine the two. 1+1.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    http://origin.lcv.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Five-Early-State-Climate-Survey.pdf

    Uh oh.

    B-b-b-ut Venezuela! And $6000! And cow farts! SHES GOING TO BAN PLANES!!!!!!! LENIN!!!!!!

    Welcome to socialist America. Thanks AOC.

    Wow imagine that. A majority of all people who say they support puppies and ice cream. Do you know how fucking stupid and worthless these kind of polls are? You ask people if they would support transitioning all of American energy needs to renewable and green friendly sources in the next 15 years and damn if you don't get a majority of people to say that they'd support it.

    Now ask them that exact same question and only ask them if they'd still support it if it meant that they'd be paying twice as much for their energy cost or that they'd have to have an electric car.

    The fact that you think this polls are of any significance reveals you for the lightweight you are dude.
    why do you lie? Lil lyin Bob.
    Why do you suck cock Hondo?
    So instead of posting support for your comment. You resort to Homophobic comments.
    Hondo's so fucking stupid he actually thinks polling for the GND will show increasing support when the public is informed that there will be negative impact associated with some of the proposals and he need to see evidence that would refute his beliefs.