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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,469 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Some human rights activists and opponents of the government in Iran claim between 4,000 and 6,000 gay men and lesbians have been executed in Iran for crimes related to their sexual orientation since 1979


    Yeah, Christians do that shit all the time.

    What this really reveals about both Hondo and O'Keefed, is the pure contempt and hatred they have for their fellow Americans. To compare what Iran does to gays, to illegal acts committed against gays in America, that the state here then prosecutes people for is fucking outrageous.

    Look how blob dishonestly conflates the acts of the despicable regime in Iran into a broad claim about Islam. Yet we’ve seen how he’ll cry like a little schoolgirl at any suggestion that the Nazis made use of traditional Christian antipathy toward the Jews during the Holocaust.
    Weird the way those Iranian's are able to influence so many other Muslim countries.

    There are over 10 countries where engaging in homosexual activity is punishable by death. The one thing they all share in common isn't that they're all Persian. And the rest of your post is a complete fucking lie.

    My opposition was to a dumbfuck who claimed that Nazis carried out the Holocaust in the name of Christianity.

    You know O'Keefed, if you have to fucking lie you probably don't have much of an argument in the first place.
    Name 10 plus countries that punish gay people to death.
    HondoFS clearly ok with any number greater than 0.

    Is that what your news source tells you?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    pawz said:

    But but but but ...

    Got any video of Christians throwing fags off buildings? Or stoning women to death for inpropper clothing coverage?

    That's what I thought.



    But thanks for proving the poont of the meme as always you ignorant fuck.

    Da fuq?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States
    How much of that was done in the name of Christianity Hondo? Muslims kill gays in the name of their religion. Violence against gays isn't sanctioned by the Christian church or the state.

    It is in Islamic countries.

    Other than that, you fucking killed it dumbfuck.
    More than zero. Which is the point.
    Name the Christian church that advocates for violence against gays you lying sack of shit. Name a state other than a Muslim and or Communist state that advocates for violence against gays.

    Who said Christian Church?

    But....

    Mr. Ewing says Imam Farrokh Sekaleshfar, an advocate for killing gays, was invited to speak in Orlando. He forgets to mention Christian Pastor Kevin Swanson, who advocates killing gays. (Huckabee, Jindal, and Cruz attended his 'Freedom 2015' knowing this.) Or televangelist Ben Bailey of the "Gospel of Christ' TV program preaching God commands Christians to stone gays and prevent women from teaching. Or Baptist Pastor Roger Jimenez telling his congregation the Orlando massacre was "great" and "helps society." Or Pastor Donnie Romero of Stedfast Baptist Church agreeing 100 percent with Romero. Romero advocates the death penalty for gays. Or Steven Anderson of Tempe's Faithful Word Baptist Church applauding the Orlando massacre and calling for the death of all gays. Or Pastor Curtis Knapp of New Hope Baptist Church in Seneca, Kansas, who wants the government to put gays to death. Or Jeff Smith, Emmanuel Baptist Church in Florida who equates homosexuals with serial killers, rapists, and child molesters. Or Pastor and Republican Andy Gipson in Georgia whose Facebook rants include saying gays, according to Leviticus, "are to be put to death." Or Lake Independent Baptist Church Pastor Dennis Leatherman’s fifty-minute sermon titled ,“Homosexuality and the Bible,” where he describes his struggle not to kill gays. Want more?

    https://www.laconiadailysun.com/opinion/letters/let-s-count-christian-ministers-who-ve-advocated-death-for/article_af57d7c9-9315-5bf6-b967-4561f2e9e5d8.html
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    pawz said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Some human rights activists and opponents of the government in Iran claim between 4,000 and 6,000 gay men and lesbians have been executed in Iran for crimes related to their sexual orientation since 1979


    Yeah, Christians do that shit all the time.

    What this really reveals about both Hondo and O'Keefed, is the pure contempt and hatred they have for their fellow Americans. To compare what Iran does to gays, to illegal acts committed against gays in America, that the state here then prosecutes people for is fucking outrageous.

    Look how blob dishonestly conflates the acts of the despicable regime in Iran into a broad claim about Islam. Yet we’ve seen how he’ll cry like a little schoolgirl at any suggestion that the Nazis made use of traditional Christian antipathy toward the Jews during the Holocaust.
    Weird the way those Iranian's are able to influence so many other Muslim countries.

    There are over 10 countries where engaging in homosexual activity is punishable by death. The one thing they all share in common isn't that they're all Persian. And the rest of your post is a complete fucking lie.

    My opposition was to a dumbfuck who claimed that Nazis carried out the Holocaust in the name of Christianity.

    You know O'Keefed, if you have to fucking lie you probably don't have much of an argument in the first place.
    Name 10 plus countries that punish gay people to death.
    HondoFS clearly ok with any number greater than 0.

    Is that what your news source tells you?
    Since Hondo's local church doesn't condone his dick sucking down at the highway rest stop, he sees that as a type of oppression comparable to being tossed off a building.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,966 Founders Club
    In hondo's little mind some random dude "advocating" for gays to be killed equals a state policy to kill gays based on the Islamic Religion


  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    In hondo's little mind some random dude "advocating" for gays to be killed equals a state policy to kill gays based on the Islamic Religion


    Of course he does, and O"keefed is just engaged in the other side of the coin argument. Iran's policy toward guys has nothing to do with Islam.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    In hondo's little mind some random dude "advocating" for gays to be killed equals a state policy to kill gays based on the Islamic Religion


    Bob said advocating. Not me. After I provided examples where gay people were killed in the name of Christianity. Bob didn't like that so he went to "Christian Church advocating for" which I showed examples of that.

    Now you are "State sponsored".

    Moving goalposts. Gif
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,966 Founders Club
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    edited February 2019
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Some human rights activists and opponents of the government in Iran claim between 4,000 and 6,000 gay men and lesbians have been executed in Iran for crimes related to their sexual orientation since 1979


    Yeah, Christians do that shit all the time.

    What this really reveals about both Hondo and O'Keefed, is the pure contempt and hatred they have for their fellow Americans. To compare what Iran does to gays, to illegal acts committed against gays in America, that the state here then prosecutes people for is fucking outrageous.

    Look how blob dishonestly conflates the acts of the despicable regime in Iran into a broad claim about Islam. Yet we’ve seen how he’ll cry like a little schoolgirl at any suggestion that the Nazis made use of traditional Christian antipathy toward the Jews during the Holocaust.
    Weird the way those Iranian's are able to influence so many other Muslim countries.

    There are over 10 countries where engaging in homosexual activity is punishable by death. The one thing they all share in common isn't that they're all Persian. And the rest of your post is a complete fucking lie.

    My opposition was to a dumbfuck who claimed that Nazis carried out the Holocaust in the name of Christianity.

    You know O'Keefed, if you have to fucking lie you probably don't have much of an argument in the first place.
    Name 10 plus countries that punish gay people to death.
    Afghanistan[1][2]
    Brunei[3]
    Iran[4]
    Mauritania, only applies to Muslim men[4]
    Sudan for a third conviction[4]
    Nigeria where several northern states have adopted sharia as the law of the land[4]
    Yemen[4][5]
    Saudi Arabia[4]
    Qatar applies only to Muslims, for extramarital-sex regardless of the gender of the participants[4]
    Somalia( Jubaland) where several southern states have adopted sharia law[4]

    There's 9, as Qatar shouldn't count as it basically counts adultery in general....I see why you used 10+. There is a disputed tenth

    There is legal dispute whether the law of the United Arab Emirates allows for the death penalty for homosexuality, however Amnesty International could find no instances of the death penalty.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_penalty_for_homosexuality
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,966 Founders Club
    This may surprise you but hondo is lying


    Swanson hosted the Freedom 2015: National Religious Liberties Conference in Des Moines, Iowa, attended by Republican presidential candidates Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and his father Rafael Cruz, former Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, and Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana. The conference addressed a number of topics, including the history of religious liberty, religious liberty in the workplace and military, Christian involvement in government, and how to secure religious liberty for the future. At the conference, Swanson spoke about a Biblical mandate of the death penalty for homosexuality, stating that both the Old and New Testament cover the "sin of homosexuality" and that in Romans 1 Paul the Apostle affirms that it is worthy of capital punishment.[9][10] In the same speech, he stated that he was not calling for these biblical injunctions to be enacted in America "because homosexuals need time to repent" and "America needs time to repent".[10][11][1] Ted Cruz's spokesman Rick Tyler called Swanson's statements "reprehensible" and given the comments "it was a mistake for Senator Cruz to appear at the event", stating that Cruz is against hatred or violence against homosexuals.[12][13]
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,905

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Some human rights activists and opponents of the government in Iran claim between 4,000 and 6,000 gay men and lesbians have been executed in Iran for crimes related to their sexual orientation since 1979


    Yeah, Christians do that shit all the time.

    What this really reveals about both Hondo and O'Keefed, is the pure contempt and hatred they have for their fellow Americans. To compare what Iran does to gays, to illegal acts committed against gays in America, that the state here then prosecutes people for is fucking outrageous.

    Look how blob dishonestly conflates the acts of the despicable regime in Iran into a broad claim about Islam. Yet we’ve seen how he’ll cry like a little schoolgirl at any suggestion that the Nazis made use of traditional Christian antipathy toward the Jews during the Holocaust.
    STOP LIVING IN THE PAST!
    That was way back in the 20th Century, right?
    Nazi Germany was not a theocracy
    Is there a point buried in that non-controversial observation?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    In hondo's little mind some random dude "advocating" for gays to be killed equals a state policy to kill gays based on the Islamic Religion


    Bob said advocating. Not me. After I provided examples where gay people were killed in the name of Christianity. Bob didn't like that so he went to "Christian Church advocating for" which I showed examples of that.

    Now you are "State sponsored".

    Moving goalposts. Gif
    You didn't provide a single example of people being killed in the name of Christianity you lying sack of shit. And there is no recognized Christian domination that advocates the murder of gay people. The fact that you have some freak show church like that Westboro Baptist church that is condemned by every Christian Church group doesn't compare to a state sanctioned murder of gay people in the name of Islam.

    What happens to someone who follows through on call to murder gays in this country Hondo?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,966 Founders Club
    Throughout history "most" groups have hated gays. Here in the evil christian USA they have full civil rights including marriage

    Yet the virtue gangs consistently talks about how bad the USA is while giving a pass as Damone points out

    I know Hondofs missed the point as usual. But the point isn’t that someone hates gays and women , the point is the leftists give some groups a pass as a virtue signaling attempt.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Throughout history "most" groups have hated gays. Here in the evil christian USA they have full civil rights including marriage

    Yet the virtue gangs consistently talks about how bad the USA is while giving a pass as Damone points out

    I know Hondofs missed the point as usual. But the point isn’t that someone hates gays and women , the point is the leftists give some groups a pass as a virtue signaling attempt.

    Leftist give Islam a pass because Islam shares their hostility to Christianity and Western Civilization. Islam hates Christians and Jews and so do most leftists.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    I know Hondofs missed the point as usual. But the point isn’t that someone hates gays and women , the point is the leftists give some groups a pass as a virtue signaling attempt.

    Kind of like how they treat punching up vs punching down?

    I do find it sadistic that the left pushes for gay rights, but turns their head when they are brutally murdered by a certain culture.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,905
    SFGbob said:

    Throughout history "most" groups have hated gays. Here in the evil christian USA they have full civil rights including marriage

    Yet the virtue gangs consistently talks about how bad the USA is while giving a pass as Damone points out

    I know Hondofs missed the point as usual. But the point isn’t that someone hates gays and women , the point is the leftists give some groups a pass as a virtue signaling attempt.

    Leftist give Islam a pass because Islam shares their hostility to Christianity and Western Civilization. Islam hates Christians and Jews and so do most leftists.
    I keep hearing about people giving Islam a pass because of things Islam supposedly believes. I can't be the only one here who actually knows a few Muslims
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Some human rights activists and opponents of the government in Iran claim between 4,000 and 6,000 gay men and lesbians have been executed in Iran for crimes related to their sexual orientation since 1979


    Yeah, Christians do that shit all the time.

    What this really reveals about both Hondo and O'Keefed, is the pure contempt and hatred they have for their fellow Americans. To compare what Iran does to gays, to illegal acts committed against gays in America, that the state here then prosecutes people for is fucking outrageous.

    Look how blob dishonestly conflates the acts of the despicable regime in Iran into a broad claim about Islam. Yet we’ve seen how he’ll cry like a little schoolgirl at any suggestion that the Nazis made use of traditional Christian antipathy toward the Jews during the Holocaust.
    Weird the way those Iranian's are able to influence so many other Muslim countries.

    There are over 10 countries where engaging in homosexual activity is punishable by death. The one thing they all share in common isn't that they're all Persian. And the rest of your post is a complete fucking lie.

    My opposition was to a dumbfuck who claimed that Nazis carried out the Holocaust in the name of Christianity.

    You know O'Keefed, if you have to fucking lie you probably don't have much of an argument in the first place.
    Name 10 plus countries that punish gay people to death.
    Afghanistan[1][2]
    Brunei[3]
    Iran[4]
    Mauritania, only applies to Muslim men[4]
    Sudan for a third conviction[4]
    Nigeria where several northern states have adopted sharia as the law of the land[4]
    Yemen[4][5]
    Saudi Arabia[4]
    Qatar applies only to Muslims, for extramarital-sex regardless of the gender of the participants[4]
    Somalia( Jubaland) where several southern states have adopted sharia law[4]

    There's 9, as Qatar shouldn't count as it basically counts adultery in general....I see why you used 10+. There is a disputed tenth

    There is legal dispute whether the law of the United Arab Emirates allows for the death penalty for homosexuality, however Amnesty International could find no instances of the death penalty.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_penalty_for_homosexuality
    I didn't say 10. Bob said 10 plus. And there's a reason why I asked him to name 10.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    This may surprise you but hondo is lying


    Swanson hosted the Freedom 2015: National Religious Liberties Conference in Des Moines, Iowa, attended by Republican presidential candidates Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and his father Rafael Cruz, former Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, and Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana. The conference addressed a number of topics, including the history of religious liberty, religious liberty in the workplace and military, Christian involvement in government, and how to secure religious liberty for the future. At the conference, Swanson spoke about a Biblical mandate of the death penalty for homosexuality, stating that both the Old and New Testament cover the "sin of homosexuality" and that in Romans 1 Paul the Apostle affirms that it is worthy of capital punishment.[9][10] In the same speech, he stated that he was not calling for these biblical injunctions to be enacted in America "because homosexuals need time to repent" and "America needs time to repent".[10][11][1] Ted Cruz's spokesman Rick Tyler called Swanson's statements "reprehensible" and given the comments "it was a mistake for Senator Cruz to appear at the event", stating that Cruz is against hatred or violence against homosexuals.[12][13]


    That's one comment you dispute. What about the rest?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,966 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Throughout history "most" groups have hated gays. Here in the evil christian USA they have full civil rights including marriage

    Yet the virtue gangs consistently talks about how bad the USA is while giving a pass as Damone points out

    I know Hondofs missed the point as usual. But the point isn’t that someone hates gays and women , the point is the leftists give some groups a pass as a virtue signaling attempt.

    Leftist give Islam a pass because Islam shares their hostility to Christianity and Western Civilization. Islam hates Christians and Jews and so do most leftists.
    I keep hearing about people giving Islam a pass because of things Islam supposedly believes. I can't be the only one here who actually knows a few Muslims
    By gosh if you know a few Muslims that settles it
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Some human rights activists and opponents of the government in Iran claim between 4,000 and 6,000 gay men and lesbians have been executed in Iran for crimes related to their sexual orientation since 1979


    Yeah, Christians do that shit all the time.

    What this really reveals about both Hondo and O'Keefed, is the pure contempt and hatred they have for their fellow Americans. To compare what Iran does to gays, to illegal acts committed against gays in America, that the state here then prosecutes people for is fucking outrageous.

    Look how blob dishonestly conflates the acts of the despicable regime in Iran into a broad claim about Islam. Yet we’ve seen how he’ll cry like a little schoolgirl at any suggestion that the Nazis made use of traditional Christian antipathy toward the Jews during the Holocaust.
    Weird the way those Iranian's are able to influence so many other Muslim countries.

    There are over 10 countries where engaging in homosexual activity is punishable by death. The one thing they all share in common isn't that they're all Persian. And the rest of your post is a complete fucking lie.

    My opposition was to a dumbfuck who claimed that Nazis carried out the Holocaust in the name of Christianity.

    You know O'Keefed, if you have to fucking lie you probably don't have much of an argument in the first place.
    Name 10 plus countries that punish gay people to death.
    Afghanistan[1][2]
    Brunei[3]
    Iran[4]
    Mauritania, only applies to Muslim men[4]
    Sudan for a third conviction[4]
    Nigeria where several northern states have adopted sharia as the law of the land[4]
    Yemen[4][5]
    Saudi Arabia[4]
    Qatar applies only to Muslims, for extramarital-sex regardless of the gender of the participants[4]
    Somalia( Jubaland) where several southern states have adopted sharia law[4]

    There's 9, as Qatar shouldn't count as it basically counts adultery in general....I see why you used 10+. There is a disputed tenth

    There is legal dispute whether the law of the United Arab Emirates allows for the death penalty for homosexuality, however Amnesty International could find no instances of the death penalty.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_penalty_for_homosexuality
    I didn't say 10. Bob said 10 plus. And there's a reason why I asked him to name 10.
    And there's a reason why I told you to go fuck yourself.

    I thought was because of the Iranians not Islam.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,966 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    This may surprise you but hondo is lying


    Swanson hosted the Freedom 2015: National Religious Liberties Conference in Des Moines, Iowa, attended by Republican presidential candidates Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and his father Rafael Cruz, former Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, and Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana. The conference addressed a number of topics, including the history of religious liberty, religious liberty in the workplace and military, Christian involvement in government, and how to secure religious liberty for the future. At the conference, Swanson spoke about a Biblical mandate of the death penalty for homosexuality, stating that both the Old and New Testament cover the "sin of homosexuality" and that in Romans 1 Paul the Apostle affirms that it is worthy of capital punishment.[9][10] In the same speech, he stated that he was not calling for these biblical injunctions to be enacted in America "because homosexuals need time to repent" and "America needs time to repent".[10][11][1] Ted Cruz's spokesman Rick Tyler called Swanson's statements "reprehensible" and given the comments "it was a mistake for Senator Cruz to appear at the event", stating that Cruz is against hatred or violence against homosexuals.[12][13]


    That's one comment you dispute. What about the rest?
    if you lied on the first one why would I bother to go further? You lie like you breathe

    I don't dispute anything. You flat out lied
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    This may surprise you but hondo is lying


    Swanson hosted the Freedom 2015: National Religious Liberties Conference in Des Moines, Iowa, attended by Republican presidential candidates Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and his father Rafael Cruz, former Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, and Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana. The conference addressed a number of topics, including the history of religious liberty, religious liberty in the workplace and military, Christian involvement in government, and how to secure religious liberty for the future. At the conference, Swanson spoke about a Biblical mandate of the death penalty for homosexuality, stating that both the Old and New Testament cover the "sin of homosexuality" and that in Romans 1 Paul the Apostle affirms that it is worthy of capital punishment.[9][10] In the same speech, he stated that he was not calling for these biblical injunctions to be enacted in America "because homosexuals need time to repent" and "America needs time to repent".[10][11][1] Ted Cruz's spokesman Rick Tyler called Swanson's statements "reprehensible" and given the comments "it was a mistake for Senator Cruz to appear at the event", stating that Cruz is against hatred or violence against homosexuals.[12][13]


    That's one comment you dispute. What about the rest?
    if you lied on the first one why would I bother to go further? You lie like you breathe

    I don't dispute anything. You flat out lied
    There are Christians in America, some who are pastors, who have called for the death of gay people. Are you seriously saying that's not true?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,966 Founders Club
    You certainly failed to prove it by lying as usual

    There is no equivalence but but but but
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    There are blond haired people in America, some of them are Christians who have called for the death of gay people. Therefore using Hondo's Kunt logic, blondes support killing gay people.
  • Postal91
    Postal91 Member Posts: 1,895
    HHusky said:

    but but but


    Nebraska?
    Minnesota
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    You certainly failed to prove it by lying as usual

    There is no equivalence but but but but

    You and Bob hate realizing you been lying then try to call the person who called you out a liar. Nice work!!
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,905

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Throughout history "most" groups have hated gays. Here in the evil christian USA they have full civil rights including marriage

    Yet the virtue gangs consistently talks about how bad the USA is while giving a pass as Damone points out

    I know Hondofs missed the point as usual. But the point isn’t that someone hates gays and women , the point is the leftists give some groups a pass as a virtue signaling attempt.

    Leftist give Islam a pass because Islam shares their hostility to Christianity and Western Civilization. Islam hates Christians and Jews and so do most leftists.
    I keep hearing about people giving Islam a pass because of things Islam supposedly believes. I can't be the only one here who actually knows a few Muslims
    By gosh if you know a few Muslims that settles it
    As opposed to whatever the fuck the point you're trying to make is.

    You've convinced me we don't want a Muslim theocracy, or any other.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,905
    SFGbob said:

    There are blond haired people in America, some of them are Christians who have called for the death of gay people. Therefore using Hondo's Kunt logic, blondes support killing gay people.

    This is about the equivalent of your argument that what Iran does tells us what Muslims believe.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    You certainly failed to prove it by lying as usual

    There is no equivalence but but but but

    You and Bob hate realizing you been lying then try to call the person who called you out a liar. Nice work!!
    What was my lie? Did I claim Social Security didn't exist in the 1950s or did I claim blacks couldn't drink from Public drinking fountains in the 1970s?