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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Does the baby have to be severely deformed for the abortion to take place as the law was written?

    No. It would be possible to obtain a late term abortion if a physician determines there are dire risks to the mother’s health in not aborting.
    "Health" can be very widely interpreted. Including mental health.

    What if the law made that point clear? That mental health doesn't count? That it's only in situations where the woman is at serious risk, and that were determined by an unaffiliated, non-abortion doctor?

    What then?

    My point here is, why nitpick the law if you don't believe it's ok. Just say that and stand by it. I don't have any issues with people who are anti-abortion, even those who are anti-abortion in every single circumstance. I understand the argument and the position. It's just that most of them are full of shit and terribly insincere in their beliefs.
    I'm against it. Only pointing out that it is very open to interpretation and it's really not as it was representd in an earlier post.

    They won't change the law. Guarantee that.
    What was represented, in an earlier post made by you, was that this law was abortions for all. Which we all know was a lie.
    It is abortion on demand since being depressed or stressed out about having the baby could easily earn an abortion. Like I said it's not like abortion doctors have morals. They're all about the money. No dead babies no money.

    Fuck you're dumb!
    You think a doctor would risk their license over $500? And you say I'm dumb? El oh el
    The law allows for an abortion if the mother is depressed. They wouldn't be risking their license.
    Care to support that that stance?
  • LebamDawg
    LebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,785 Swaye's Wigwam
    Get rid of abortion laws altogether. Then each state will or will not press murder charges.

    Either way the doctor patient relationship does not and will not be the final word on what happens - laws or no laws
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:
    Good article. Where does it say a woman can have an abortion for being depressed?
    Either didn't read it, too stupid to understand it or are just lying about it.

    Take your pick.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    edited February 2019
    SFGbob said:
    The writer mentions early on, and never again, the requirement that a doctor has to make a determination. For about the last two-thirds of the piece, you'd be forgiven for thinking that women are allowed to end late stage pregnancies on whim, because it is the writer's (dishonest) intention to convey that message.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    A single doctor has to make the determination with no oversight and the "mental health" of the mother can be used in order to make that determination.

    Go fuck yourself O'Keefed.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Does the baby have to be severely deformed for the abortion to take place as the law was written?

    Bob prefers to have the government make the decision rather than the doctor and mother. Such the conundrum that you now trust the government over the expert on what's best for the mother's health.
    Yeah, Gosnel was all about the mother's health and he was an "expert."

    Gosnel is serving his sentence. Any more disingenuous arguments, blob?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    A single doctor has to make the determination with no oversight and the "mental health" of the mother can be used in order to make that determination.

    Go fuck yourself O'Keefed.

    Again they are going to do that over $500? I know that's a lot of money to you. But not to a doctor.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    SFGbob said:

    A single doctor has to make the determination with no oversight and the "mental health" of the mother can be used in order to make that determination.

    Go fuck yourself O'Keefed.

    And there you have it--the enormous respect the RW has for women. Because it would be possible for a doctor and a woman to skirt the law's intent and conspire to kill the Gerber baby, blob needs government more involved. Again, Gosnel is in prison.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    Kid couldn't remember Bible verses. C'mon! His prospects for any kind of life were obviously pretty bleak.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Does the baby have to be severely deformed for the abortion to take place as the law was written?

    Bob prefers to have the government make the decision rather than the doctor and mother. Such the conundrum that you now trust the government over the expert on what's best for the mother's health.
    Yeah, Gosnel was all about the mother's health and he was an "expert."

    Gosnel is serving his sentence. Any more disingenuous arguments, blob?
    Law in Pennsylvania hadn't been changed to what they're trying to do in NY and VA Kunt. Would you like to stick your head up your ass even further?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    A single doctor has to make the determination with no oversight and the "mental health" of the mother can be used in order to make that determination.

    Go fuck yourself O'Keefed.

    Again they are going to do that over $500? I know that's a lot of money to you. But not to a doctor.
    Do what Hondo? Follow the law as written? Some will.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    A single doctor has to make the determination with no oversight and the "mental health" of the mother can be used in order to make that determination.

    Go fuck yourself O'Keefed.

    And there you have it--the enormous respect the RW has for women. Because it would be possible for a doctor and a woman to skirt the law's intent and conspire to kill the Gerber baby, blob needs government more involved. Again, Gosnel is in prison.
    How can you say that they'd be skirting the law's intent O'Keefed? They have intentionally left the "health of the mother" vague to allow for these types of abortions. That is the laws intent.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    A single doctor has to make the determination with no oversight and the "mental health" of the mother can be used in order to make that determination.

    Go fuck yourself O'Keefed.

    And there you have it--the enormous respect the RW has for women. Because it would be possible for a doctor and a woman to skirt the law's intent and conspire to kill the Gerber baby, blob needs government more involved. Again, Gosnel is in prison.
    How can you say that they'd be skirting the law's intent O'Keefed? They have intentionally left the "health of the mother" vague to allow for these types of abortions. That is the laws intent.

    Right you are blob. Women and doctors are just clamoring to use the law in order to kill full term babies over trifles.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Does the baby have to be severely deformed for the abortion to take place as the law was written?

    Bob prefers to have the government make the decision rather than the doctor and mother. Such the conundrum that you now trust the government over the expert on what's best for the mother's health.
    Yeah, Gosnel was all about the mother's health and he was an "expert."

    Gosnel is serving his sentence. Any more disingenuous arguments, blob?
    Law in Pennsylvania hadn't been changed to what they're trying to do in NY and VA Kunt. Would you like to stick your head up your ass even further?
    There ain't any law proposed or on the books that would allow what Gosnel was doing.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Does the baby have to be severely deformed for the abortion to take place as the law was written?

    Bob prefers to have the government make the decision rather than the doctor and mother. Such the conundrum that you now trust the government over the expert on what's best for the mother's health.
    Yeah, Gosnel was all about the mother's health and he was an "expert."

    Gosnel is serving his sentence. Any more disingenuous arguments, blob?
    Law in Pennsylvania hadn't been changed to what they're trying to do in NY and VA Kunt. Would you like to stick your head up your ass even further?
    There ain't any law proposed or on the books that would allow what Gosnel was doing.
    But Virginia was trying to put a law on the books that would allow for a mother, for reasons of "mental health" to abort her baby right up until birth.

    You lied O'Keefed.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Does the baby have to be severely deformed for the abortion to take place as the law was written?

    Bob prefers to have the government make the decision rather than the doctor and mother. Such the conundrum that you now trust the government over the expert on what's best for the mother's health.
    Yeah, Gosnel was all about the mother's health and he was an "expert."

    Gosnel is serving his sentence. Any more disingenuous arguments, blob?
    Law in Pennsylvania hadn't been changed to what they're trying to do in NY and VA Kunt. Would you like to stick your head up your ass even further?
    There ain't any law proposed or on the books that would allow what Gosnel was doing.
    But Virginia was trying to put a law on the books that would allow for a mother, for reasons of "mental health" to abort her baby right up until birth.

    You lied O'Keefed.
    I guess you must think if you keep repeating some almost true statement that it become more profound.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,711 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    A single doctor has to make the determination with no oversight and the "mental health" of the mother can be used in order to make that determination.

    Go fuck yourself O'Keefed.

    And there you have it--the enormous respect the RW has for women. Because it would be possible for a doctor and a woman to skirt the law's intent and conspire to kill the Gerber baby, blob needs government more involved. Again, Gosnel is in prison.
    How can you say that they'd be skirting the law's intent O'Keefed? They have intentionally left the "health of the mother" vague to allow for these types of abortions. That is the laws intent.

    If it was the laws intent it would clearly spell it out! It didn't and the term "health" was put there so they can do it for any damn reason!

    If you can't see that take off the red glasses!
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    A single doctor has to make the determination with no oversight and the "mental health" of the mother can be used in order to make that determination.

    Go fuck yourself O'Keefed.

    And there you have it--the enormous respect the RW has for women. Because it would be possible for a doctor and a woman to skirt the law's intent and conspire to kill the Gerber baby, blob needs government more involved. Again, Gosnel is in prison.
    How can you say that they'd be skirting the law's intent O'Keefed? They have intentionally left the "health of the mother" vague to allow for these types of abortions. That is the laws intent.

    If it was the laws intent it would clearly spell it out! It didn't and the term "health" was put there so they can do it for any damn reason!

    If you can't see that take off the red glasses!
    So where are all these women who are just champing at the bit to have abortions at 8 months? 'Cuz we really gotta shut that down.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Does the baby have to be severely deformed for the abortion to take place as the law was written?

    Bob prefers to have the government make the decision rather than the doctor and mother. Such the conundrum that you now trust the government over the expert on what's best for the mother's health.
    Yeah, Gosnel was all about the mother's health and he was an "expert."

    Gosnel is serving his sentence. Any more disingenuous arguments, blob?
    Law in Pennsylvania hadn't been changed to what they're trying to do in NY and VA Kunt. Would you like to stick your head up your ass even further?
    There ain't any law proposed or on the books that would allow what Gosnel was doing.
    But Virginia was trying to put a law on the books that would allow for a mother, for reasons of "mental health" to abort her baby right up until birth.

    You lied O'Keefed.
    I guess you must think if you keep repeating some almost true statement that it become more profound.
    How is my statement not true O'Keefed?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    A single doctor has to make the determination with no oversight and the "mental health" of the mother can be used in order to make that determination.

    Go fuck yourself O'Keefed.

    And there you have it--the enormous respect the RW has for women. Because it would be possible for a doctor and a woman to skirt the law's intent and conspire to kill the Gerber baby, blob needs government more involved. Again, Gosnel is in prison.
    How can you say that they'd be skirting the law's intent O'Keefed? They have intentionally left the "health of the mother" vague to allow for these types of abortions. That is the laws intent.

    If it was the laws intent it would clearly spell it out! It didn't and the term "health" was put there so they can do it for any damn reason!

    If you can't see that take off the red glasses!
    So where are all these women who are just champing at the bit to have abortions at 8 months? 'Cuz we really gotta shut that down.
    How to argue like a Kunt 101. The issue in question is what the law would allow. After lying about that for a few days this is the fall back position for a dishonest Kunt.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Does the baby have to be severely deformed for the abortion to take place as the law was written?

    Bob prefers to have the government make the decision rather than the doctor and mother. Such the conundrum that you now trust the government over the expert on what's best for the mother's health.
    Yeah, Gosnel was all about the mother's health and he was an "expert."

    Gosnel is serving his sentence. Any more disingenuous arguments, blob?
    Law in Pennsylvania hadn't been changed to what they're trying to do in NY and VA Kunt. Would you like to stick your head up your ass even further?
    There ain't any law proposed or on the books that would allow what Gosnel was doing.
    But Virginia was trying to put a law on the books that would allow for a mother, for reasons of "mental health" to abort her baby right up until birth.

    You lied O'Keefed.
    I guess you must think if you keep repeating some almost true statement that it become more profound.
    How is my statement not true O'Keefed?
    Are you autistic or some shit? Just tell us, it's ok.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Does the baby have to be severely deformed for the abortion to take place as the law was written?

    Bob prefers to have the government make the decision rather than the doctor and mother. Such the conundrum that you now trust the government over the expert on what's best for the mother's health.
    Yeah, Gosnel was all about the mother's health and he was an "expert."

    Gosnel is serving his sentence. Any more disingenuous arguments, blob?
    Law in Pennsylvania hadn't been changed to what they're trying to do in NY and VA Kunt. Would you like to stick your head up your ass even further?
    There ain't any law proposed or on the books that would allow what Gosnel was doing.
    But Virginia was trying to put a law on the books that would allow for a mother, for reasons of "mental health" to abort her baby right up until birth.

    You lied O'Keefed.
    I guess you must think if you keep repeating some almost true statement that it become more profound.
    How is my statement not true O'Keefed?
    Are you autistic or some shit? Just tell us, it's ok.
    You could try and just answer the question Hondo but we both know you're too stupid to do so.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Does the baby have to be severely deformed for the abortion to take place as the law was written?

    Bob prefers to have the government make the decision rather than the doctor and mother. Such the conundrum that you now trust the government over the expert on what's best for the mother's health.
    Yeah, Gosnel was all about the mother's health and he was an "expert."

    Gosnel is serving his sentence. Any more disingenuous arguments, blob?
    Law in Pennsylvania hadn't been changed to what they're trying to do in NY and VA Kunt. Would you like to stick your head up your ass even further?
    There ain't any law proposed or on the books that would allow what Gosnel was doing.
    But Virginia was trying to put a law on the books that would allow for a mother, for reasons of "mental health" to abort her baby right up until birth.

    You lied O'Keefed.
    I guess you must think if you keep repeating some almost true statement that it become more profound.
    How is my statement not true O'Keefed?
    Are you autistic or some shit? Just tell us, it's ok.
    You could try and just answer the question Hondo but we both know you're too stupid to do so.
    The answer has been in front of you for like 40 posts. Yet you still argue.
  • Blu82
    Blu82 Member Posts: 1,671
    When you know when life begins feel free to make all decisions regarding abortion for the rest of mankind.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Gosh who should I believe? O'Keefed, who once claimed Obama was fiscally responsible or the fucking woman who wrote the god damn bill.

    It's a tough call.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0kC1B__CJ4
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    Blu82 said:

    When you know when life begins feel free to make all decisions regarding abortion for the rest of mankind.

    Those of us who’ve been to college, junior high school even, know the fetus is alive.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,032
    Blu82 said:

    When you know when life begins feel free to make all decisions regarding abortion for the rest of mankind.

    Huh?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,897
    SFGbob said:

    Gosh who should I believe? O'Keefed, who once claimed Obama was fiscally responsible or the fucking woman who wrote the god damn bill.

    It's a tough call.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0kC1B__CJ4

    Who are these doctors who are going to off the Gerber baby?