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  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,900 Swaye's Wigwam
    There are great salesmen out there that put in the work and know their domain and all that.

    Real estate and software sales it's just too easy to be lazy and not give a shit and still get by.

    Our sales people literally just do a demo. If the customer is like, "Well I like this program and the price is great but it can't do X currently which my business needs" then they sign the dotted line and my programmers are on the hook to pull whatever obese rabbit out of our virgin assholes that we need to, by some date. At that point my engineers are the fucking sales people and deserve 100% of commission.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    jecornel said:

    And? Continue.

    46XiJCAB said:

    I've done the FSBO and used agents.

    First home I sold in two weeks w/o an agent and walked away with a nice profit.

    Next two with agents, mainly for convenience.

    Used an agent to sell my late parents home as it was in another city. Agent was great. Potential buyer kept asking for shit. No.
    Finally asked her to ask the buyers agent if his buyer was under the mistaken impression that we were desperate to sell the house? Not.
    Next call. SOLD! Full asking price.
    There's no way this isn't white supremacy


    Housing is a right
    Guilty of working the sawmills to pay my way through College. Every drop of green chain sweat was a sign of my White Supremacy.

    LOL........
    Work in a paper mill in the summer heat then pop off
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,010 Founders Club

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    jecornel said:

    And? Continue.

    46XiJCAB said:

    I've done the FSBO and used agents.

    First home I sold in two weeks w/o an agent and walked away with a nice profit.

    Next two with agents, mainly for convenience.

    Used an agent to sell my late parents home as it was in another city. Agent was great. Potential buyer kept asking for shit. No.
    Finally asked her to ask the buyers agent if his buyer was under the mistaken impression that we were desperate to sell the house? Not.
    Next call. SOLD! Full asking price.
    There's no way this isn't white supremacy


    Housing is a right
    Guilty of working the sawmills to pay my way through College. Every drop of green chain sweat was a sign of my White Supremacy.

    LOL........
    Work in a paper mill in the summer heat then pop off
    Camas papermaker heard from
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,010 Founders Club
    jecornel said:

    Statement is based on lies, excuses, poor communication will do and say just to get a sale. All you literally have to do is find a competent title company… lol

    Cogent.

    It seems like my original assessment stands that you didn't hire right.

  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    jecornel said:

    And? Continue.

    46XiJCAB said:

    I've done the FSBO and used agents.

    First home I sold in two weeks w/o an agent and walked away with a nice profit.

    Next two with agents, mainly for convenience.

    Used an agent to sell my late parents home as it was in another city. Agent was great. Potential buyer kept asking for shit. No.
    Finally asked her to ask the buyers agent if his buyer was under the mistaken impression that we were desperate to sell the house? Not.
    Next call. SOLD! Full asking price.
    There's no way this isn't white supremacy


    Housing is a right
    Guilty of working the sawmills to pay my way through College. Every drop of green chain sweat was a sign of my White Supremacy.

    LOL........
    Work in a paper mill in the summer heat then pop off
    Camas papermaker heard from
    Disagree. How dare you?
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    haie said:

    There are great salesmen out there that put in the work and know their domain and all that.

    Real estate and software sales it's just too easy to be lazy and not give a shit and still get by.

    Our sales people literally just do a demo. If the customer is like, "Well I like this program and the price is great but it can't do X currently which my business needs" then they sign the dotted line and my programmers are on the hook to pull whatever obese rabbit out of our virgin assholes that we need to, by some date. At that point my engineers are the fucking sales people and deserve 100% of commission.

    Software salespeople are the fucking worst. I love kicking their asses
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    jecornel said:

    And? Continue.

    46XiJCAB said:

    I've done the FSBO and used agents.

    First home I sold in two weeks w/o an agent and walked away with a nice profit.

    Next two with agents, mainly for convenience.

    Used an agent to sell my late parents home as it was in another city. Agent was great. Potential buyer kept asking for shit. No.
    Finally asked her to ask the buyers agent if his buyer was under the mistaken impression that we were desperate to sell the house? Not.
    Next call. SOLD! Full asking price.
    There's no way this isn't white supremacy


    Housing is a right
    Guilty of working the sawmills to pay my way through College. Every drop of green chain sweat was a sign of my White Supremacy.

    LOL........
    Work in a paper mill in the summer heat then pop off
    Paper mill would have been a vacation.
  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
    I bailed on it all. Wasn’t for me.
    pawz said:

    jecornel said:

    Statement is based on lies, excuses, poor communication will do and say just to get a sale. All you literally have to do is find a competent title company… lol

    Cogent.

    It seems like my original assessment stands that you didn't hire right.

  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    haie said:

    There are great salesmen out there that put in the work and know their domain and all that.

    Real estate and software sales it's just too easy to be lazy and not give a shit and still get by.

    Our sales people literally just do a demo. If the customer is like, "Well I like this program and the price is great but it can't do X currently which my business needs" then they sign the dotted line and my programmers are on the hook to pull whatever obese rabbit out of our virgin assholes that we need to, by some date. At that point my engineers are the fucking sales people and deserve 100% of commission.

    Why do you have what sounds like worthless salespeople? Fire all of them. Tomorrow.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,981
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    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    There are great salesmen out there that put in the work and know their domain and all that.

    Real estate and software sales it's just too easy to be lazy and not give a shit and still get by.

    Our sales people literally just do a demo. If the customer is like, "Well I like this program and the price is great but it can't do X currently which my business needs" then they sign the dotted line and my programmers are on the hook to pull whatever obese rabbit out of our virgin assholes that we need to, by some date. At that point my engineers are the fucking sales people and deserve 100% of commission.

    Why do you have what sounds like worthless salespeople? Fire all of them. Tomorrow.
    Speaking of....we actually fired all our sales people. It's been great.

    I am especially proud of a report I made titled Monthly Travel Expenses vs New Business Sold.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,287 Standard Supporter
    haie said:

    There are great salesmen out there that put in the work and know their domain and all that.

    Real estate and software sales it's just too easy to be lazy and not give a shit and still get by.

    Our sales people literally just do a demo. If the customer is like, "Well I like this program and the price is great but it can't do X currently which my business needs" then they sign the dotted line and my programmers are on the hook to pull whatever obese rabbit out of our virgin assholes that we need to, by some date. At that point my engineers are the fucking sales people and deserve 100% of commission.

    I remember my software sales phase.

    Fuck the engineers. Nothing happens until something sells.


  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,405 Standard Supporter

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    jecornel said:

    And? Continue.

    46XiJCAB said:

    I've done the FSBO and used agents.

    First home I sold in two weeks w/o an agent and walked away with a nice profit.

    Next two with agents, mainly for convenience.

    Used an agent to sell my late parents home as it was in another city. Agent was great. Potential buyer kept asking for shit. No.
    Finally asked her to ask the buyers agent if his buyer was under the mistaken impression that we were desperate to sell the house? Not.
    Next call. SOLD! Full asking price.
    There's no way this isn't white supremacy


    Housing is a right
    Guilty of working the sawmills to pay my way through College. Every drop of green chain sweat was a sign of my White Supremacy.

    LOL........
    Work in a paper mill in the summer heat then pop off
    Paper mill running on the chlorine to bleach the paper that I was sweating over to make back in the day.
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,010 Founders Club

    pawz said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    jecornel said:

    And? Continue.

    46XiJCAB said:

    I've done the FSBO and used agents.

    First home I sold in two weeks w/o an agent and walked away with a nice profit.

    Next two with agents, mainly for convenience.

    Used an agent to sell my late parents home as it was in another city. Agent was great. Potential buyer kept asking for shit. No.
    Finally asked her to ask the buyers agent if his buyer was under the mistaken impression that we were desperate to sell the house? Not.
    Next call. SOLD! Full asking price.
    There's no way this isn't white supremacy


    Housing is a right
    Guilty of working the sawmills to pay my way through College. Every drop of green chain sweat was a sign of my White Supremacy.

    LOL........
    Work in a paper mill in the summer heat then pop off
    Camas papermaker heard from
    Disagree. How dare you?
    It's logical. You must drive through Camas to get to Washougal.

  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited August 2022

    haie said:

    There are great salesmen out there that put in the work and know their domain and all that.

    Real estate and software sales it's just too easy to be lazy and not give a shit and still get by.

    Our sales people literally just do a demo. If the customer is like, "Well I like this program and the price is great but it can't do X currently which my business needs" then they sign the dotted line and my programmers are on the hook to pull whatever obese rabbit out of our virgin assholes that we need to, by some date. At that point my engineers are the fucking sales people and deserve 100% of commission.

    I remember my software sales phase.

    Fuck the engineers. Nothing happens until something sells.


    I had a college professor who was a former Pacemaker Engineer. He had the exact same take. He didn't have it ass backwards.
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,900 Swaye's Wigwam
    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    There are great salesmen out there that put in the work and know their domain and all that.

    Real estate and software sales it's just too easy to be lazy and not give a shit and still get by.

    Our sales people literally just do a demo. If the customer is like, "Well I like this program and the price is great but it can't do X currently which my business needs" then they sign the dotted line and my programmers are on the hook to pull whatever obese rabbit out of our virgin assholes that we need to, by some date. At that point my engineers are the fucking sales people and deserve 100% of commission.

    I remember my software sales phase.

    Fuck the engineers. Nothing happens until something sells.


    I had a college professor who was a former Pacemaker Engineer. He had the exact same take. He didn't have it ass backwards.
    Jesus, thank you for that contribution. You are clearly an expert on the topic.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    edited August 2022
    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    There are great salesmen out there that put in the work and know their domain and all that.

    Real estate and software sales it's just too easy to be lazy and not give a shit and still get by.

    Our sales people literally just do a demo. If the customer is like, "Well I like this program and the price is great but it can't do X currently which my business needs" then they sign the dotted line and my programmers are on the hook to pull whatever obese rabbit out of our virgin assholes that we need to, by some date. At that point my engineers are the fucking sales people and deserve 100% of commission.

    I remember my software sales phase.

    Fuck the engineers. Nothing happens until something sells.


    I had a college professor who was a former Pacemaker Engineer. He had the exact same take. He didn't have it ass backwards.
    Jesus, thank you for that contribution. You are clearly an expert on the topic.
    Sorry that hurt your vag, Haie.

    Did you fire your sales guys and gals yet?

    Maybe give Pitchfork51 a call to walk you through how it's done.

    Dumbass.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,287 Standard Supporter
    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    There are great salesmen out there that put in the work and know their domain and all that.

    Real estate and software sales it's just too easy to be lazy and not give a shit and still get by.

    Our sales people literally just do a demo. If the customer is like, "Well I like this program and the price is great but it can't do X currently which my business needs" then they sign the dotted line and my programmers are on the hook to pull whatever obese rabbit out of our virgin assholes that we need to, by some date. At that point my engineers are the fucking sales people and deserve 100% of commission.

    I remember my software sales phase.

    Fuck the engineers. Nothing happens until something sells.


    I had a college professor who was a former Pacemaker Engineer. He had the exact same take. He didn't have it ass backwards.
    Jesus, thank you for that contribution. You are clearly an expert on the topic.
    I actually sold ERP/resource planning software to Fortune 500 companies for a few years.

    I'm just fucking with you. The correct answer is "with enough time and money, this software can do whatever you want...now why is your business so different than thousands of others utilizing best practices?"

    If your sales guys are just doing demos, they give no fucks about the customer's needs OR what they can deliver. Recipe for failed implementation for the customer or choking down costs to the provider.

    Bring the Throbber in to consult and I'll set your woeful sales guys straight.

  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,010 Founders Club
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 11,594
    jecornel said:

    Statement is based on lies, excuses, poor communication will do and say just to get a sale. All you literally have to do is find a competent title company… lol

    Were you operating out of a Realtor office, or a non-Realtor office?
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,900 Swaye's Wigwam

    haie said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    haie said:

    There are great salesmen out there that put in the work and know their domain and all that.

    Real estate and software sales it's just too easy to be lazy and not give a shit and still get by.

    Our sales people literally just do a demo. If the customer is like, "Well I like this program and the price is great but it can't do X currently which my business needs" then they sign the dotted line and my programmers are on the hook to pull whatever obese rabbit out of our virgin assholes that we need to, by some date. At that point my engineers are the fucking sales people and deserve 100% of commission.

    I remember my software sales phase.

    Fuck the engineers. Nothing happens until something sells.


    I had a college professor who was a former Pacemaker Engineer. He had the exact same take. He didn't have it ass backwards.
    Jesus, thank you for that contribution. You are clearly an expert on the topic.
    I actually sold ERP/resource planning software to Fortune 500 companies for a few years.

    I'm just fucking with you. The correct answer is "with enough time and money, this software can do whatever you want...now why is your business so different than thousands of others utilizing best practices?"

    If your sales guys are just doing demos, they give no fucks about the customer's needs OR what they can deliver. Recipe for failed implementation for the customer or choking down costs to the provider.

    Bring the Throbber in to consult and I'll set your woeful sales guys straight.

    I don't even clash with sales much, I'm just saying that like with project managers, analysts, some other positions, it's easy for them to take advantage. Less so than others because you know how many deals they close. In the end we have to "close the deal" because there's zero pressure on sales to be like "well yes we don't do this thing quite like you're used to, but maybe we have some other existing thing you can use instead." They make zero effort in that regard and people think it's okay because you're supporting another workflow now, and maybe in the future someone else has the same one. It often doesn't work out like that though.

    Project managers are absolutely on my shit list, they get out of being accountable for creating crisis situations, and companies don't do a good enough job of monitoring their performance.
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