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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,905 Standard Supporter


    Herr Dazzler has set record for own goals in 24 hours.
    Now have the dazzler "interpret" the language of the Constitution to provide an absolute right to abortion in the 9th month. The language and the Constitutional background of the 2A (like the 1A) is clear and unambiguous and you don't need to examine entrails, penumbras and emanations to make up a right to an abortion.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,335

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Lets just agree that the founders didn't just return from a deer hunt. They had just liberated a nation from a tyrannical government! They were only able to do so because the populace had arms and militias.

    Most people don't know the shot heard around the world was due to an attempt by the Brits to disarm the colonists. They were marching to seize arms and powder stores.

    We are free because of armed men who were brave enough to say "Enough" and "Never".

    BidenBros say control me more daddy!

    Well I did know that, and I've been to the scene.

    Scalia treated "well-regulated militia" as having no effect whatsoever.

    That's not proper interpretation of any written document.
    What dies "well regulated" in the 2A.

    Use your own words, Betty
    It meant a citizen soldier militia that would avoid any necessity for a standing army. You might well be expected to defend the country; it wasn’t written to allow you to overthrow the government. It wasn’t about an individual right to own guns.

    Scalia was a selective “originalist”.
    It’s also to defend yourself and your natural rights if/when the government becomes tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson was the original originalist. You know this, you’re just being dishonest. Helen.
    TJ is but one of the founders, Beatrice. Definitely not the only one to comment on the right to bear arms.
    Pretty sure he is an originalist, Dorothy. More so than people you keep mentioning. So your argument is “other people said thing too”? Deep take, ma’am
    Deeper than any take on Jefferson, who wasn’t even at the Constitutional Convention after all.

    “A well regulated Militia, composed of gentlemen freeholders, and other freemen, is the natural strength and only stable security of a free Government.”
    -George Mason (emphasis mine)

    "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
    - Samuel Adams
    So another guy who didn’t attend the convention is your authority.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Sledog said:


    And don’t forget the USA is sending weapons for the citizens of Ukraine to use. No background check required.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,593 Standard Supporter
    The left telling us no guns because children. Meanwhile they support the abortion (murder) of 700k children a year in the US alone. Fuck all you lefty commie shits! Because ripping babies limb from limb in womb is compassionate.

    Lunacy.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Sledog said:

    The left telling us no guns because children. Meanwhile they support the abortion (murder) of 700k children a year in the US alone. Fuck all you lefty commie shits! Because ripping babies limb from limb in womb is compassionate.

    Lunacy.

    Clumps of cells

    Good for the economy.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,551 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Lets just agree that the founders didn't just return from a deer hunt. They had just liberated a nation from a tyrannical government! They were only able to do so because the populace had arms and militias.

    Most people don't know the shot heard around the world was due to an attempt by the Brits to disarm the colonists. They were marching to seize arms and powder stores.

    We are free because of armed men who were brave enough to say "Enough" and "Never".

    BidenBros say control me more daddy!

    Well I did know that, and I've been to the scene.

    Scalia treated "well-regulated militia" as having no effect whatsoever.

    That's not proper interpretation of any written document.
    What dies "well regulated" in the 2A.

    Use your own words, Betty
    It meant a citizen soldier militia that would avoid any necessity for a standing army. You might well be expected to defend the country; it wasn’t written to allow you to overthrow the government. It wasn’t about an individual right to own guns.

    Scalia was a selective “originalist”.
    It’s also to defend yourself and your natural rights if/when the government becomes tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson was the original originalist. You know this, you’re just being dishonest. Helen.
    TJ is but one of the founders, Beatrice. Definitely not the only one to comment on the right to bear arms.
    Pretty sure he is an originalist, Dorothy. More so than people you keep mentioning. So your argument is “other people said thing too”? Deep take, ma’am
    Deeper than any take on Jefferson, who wasn’t even at the Constitutional Convention after all.

    “A well regulated Militia, composed of gentlemen freeholders, and other freemen, is the natural strength and only stable security of a free Government.”
    -George Mason (emphasis mine)

    "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
    - Samuel Adams
    So another guy who didn’t attend the convention is your authority.
    "And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; or to raise standing armies, unless necessary for the defense of the United States, or of some one or more of them; or to prevent the people from petitioning, in a peaceable and orderly manner, the federal legislature, for a redress of grievances; or to subject the people to unreasonable searches and seizures of their persons, papers or possessions.”
    -George Washington
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,256 Founders Club

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Lets just agree that the founders didn't just return from a deer hunt. They had just liberated a nation from a tyrannical government! They were only able to do so because the populace had arms and militias.

    Most people don't know the shot heard around the world was due to an attempt by the Brits to disarm the colonists. They were marching to seize arms and powder stores.

    We are free because of armed men who were brave enough to say "Enough" and "Never".

    BidenBros say control me more daddy!

    Well I did know that, and I've been to the scene.

    Scalia treated "well-regulated militia" as having no effect whatsoever.

    That's not proper interpretation of any written document.
    What dies "well regulated" in the 2A.

    Use your own words, Betty
    It meant a citizen soldier militia that would avoid any necessity for a standing army. You might well be expected to defend the country; it wasn’t written to allow you to overthrow the government. It wasn’t about an individual right to own guns.

    Scalia was a selective “originalist”.
    It’s also to defend yourself and your natural rights if/when the government becomes tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson was the original originalist. You know this, you’re just being dishonest. Helen.
    TJ is but one of the founders, Beatrice. Definitely not the only one to comment on the right to bear arms.
    Pretty sure he is an originalist, Dorothy. More so than people you keep mentioning. So your argument is “other people said thing too”? Deep take, ma’am
    Deeper than any take on Jefferson, who wasn’t even at the Constitutional Convention after all.

    “A well regulated Militia, composed of gentlemen freeholders, and other freemen, is the natural strength and only stable security of a free Government.”
    -George Mason (emphasis mine)

    "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
    - Samuel Adams
    So another guy who didn’t attend the convention is your authority.
    "And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; or to raise standing armies, unless necessary for the defense of the United States, or of some one or more of them; or to prevent the people from petitioning, in a peaceable and orderly manner, the federal legislature, for a redress of grievances; or to subject the people to unreasonable searches and seizures of their persons, papers or possessions.”
    -George Washington
    Who’s this Washington guy? Probably not at the convention.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited June 2022
    Bob_C said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Lets just agree that the founders didn't just return from a deer hunt. They had just liberated a nation from a tyrannical government! They were only able to do so because the populace had arms and militias.

    Most people don't know the shot heard around the world was due to an attempt by the Brits to disarm the colonists. They were marching to seize arms and powder stores.

    We are free because of armed men who were brave enough to say "Enough" and "Never".

    BidenBros say control me more daddy!

    Well I did know that, and I've been to the scene.

    Scalia treated "well-regulated militia" as having no effect whatsoever.

    That's not proper interpretation of any written document.
    What dies "well regulated" in the 2A.

    Use your own words, Betty
    It meant a citizen soldier militia that would avoid any necessity for a standing army. You might well be expected to defend the country; it wasn’t written to allow you to overthrow the government. It wasn’t about an individual right to own guns.

    Scalia was a selective “originalist”.
    It’s also to defend yourself and your natural rights if/when the government becomes tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson was the original originalist. You know this, you’re just being dishonest. Helen.
    TJ is but one of the founders, Beatrice. Definitely not the only one to comment on the right to bear arms.
    Pretty sure he is an originalist, Dorothy. More so than people you keep mentioning. So your argument is “other people said thing too”? Deep take, ma’am
    Deeper than any take on Jefferson, who wasn’t even at the Constitutional Convention after all.

    “A well regulated Militia, composed of gentlemen freeholders, and other freemen, is the natural strength and only stable security of a free Government.”
    -George Mason (emphasis mine)

    "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
    - Samuel Adams
    So another guy who didn’t attend the convention is your authority.
    "And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; or to raise standing armies, unless necessary for the defense of the United States, or of some one or more of them; or to prevent the people from petitioning, in a peaceable and orderly manner, the federal legislature, for a redress of grievances; or to subject the people to unreasonable searches and seizures of their persons, papers or possessions.”
    -George Washington
    Who’s this Washington guy? Probably not at the convention.
    Not an originalist.