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Where DeBoer Ranks on Early Power 5 Football Coaches' List

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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    Campbell has likely peaked out at Iowa St … similar to what Ferentz has done at Iowa

    It is what it is and doesn’t make either bad coaches
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    There’s a reason there’s a perception that the P12 doesn’t take football seriously

    It’s largely a mediocre list

    Regardless of the Fisch vs Dickert debate outcome, they both rank as 2 of the worst P5 HC in the country
  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,394
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    Tequilla said:


    Campbell has likely peaked out at Iowa St … similar to what Ferentz has done at Iowa

    It is what it is and doesn’t make either bad coaches
    Matt Campbell - The Kirk Ferentz of Iowa State!

    Ringing endorsement for hiring him.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    Tequilla said:


    Campbell has likely peaked out at Iowa St … similar to what Ferentz has done at Iowa

    It is what it is and doesn’t make either bad coaches
    Matt Campbell - The Kirk Ferentz of Iowa State!

    Ringing endorsement for hiring him.
    People that act like Ferentz is a bad coach amuse me

    The point for both is that there are ceilings of what you can accomplish at both places and both coaches have pushed their schools up against those barriers

    The fact that both programs are nationally relevant is more of a testament to them than an indictment
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:


    Campbell has likely peaked out at Iowa St … similar to what Ferentz has done at Iowa

    It is what it is and doesn’t make either bad coaches
    Matt Campbell - The Kirk Ferentz of Iowa State!

    Ringing endorsement for hiring him.
    People that act like Ferentz is a bad coach amuse me

    The point for both is that there are ceilings of what you can accomplish at both places and both coaches have pushed their schools up against those barriers

    The fact that both programs are nationally relevant is more of a testament to them than an indictment
    He’s a good developer and Iowa seems to get some good players to the NFL, but he’s never had a good offense. They are also the type of program that will have an All American type at one LB spot and the other has cement in his shoes.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:


    Campbell has likely peaked out at Iowa St … similar to what Ferentz has done at Iowa

    It is what it is and doesn’t make either bad coaches
    Matt Campbell - The Kirk Ferentz of Iowa State!

    Ringing endorsement for hiring him.
    People that act like Ferentz is a bad coach amuse me

    The point for both is that there are ceilings of what you can accomplish at both places and both coaches have pushed their schools up against those barriers

    The fact that both programs are nationally relevant is more of a testament to them than an indictment
    He’s a good developer and Iowa seems to get some good players to the NFL, but he’s never had a good offense. They are also the type of program that will have an All American type at one LB spot and the other has cement in his shoes.
    He’s far from a perfect coach

    I think most don’t understand how difficult it is to win big big at Iowa
  • godawgstgodawgst Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,405
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    Is it a good thing that 1/2 your conference coaches are ranked in the last 15 P5 head coaching spots overall....

    #conferenceofChampions
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,350
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:


    Campbell has likely peaked out at Iowa St … similar to what Ferentz has done at Iowa

    It is what it is and doesn’t make either bad coaches
    Matt Campbell - The Kirk Ferentz of Iowa State!

    Ringing endorsement for hiring him.
    People that act like Ferentz is a bad coach amuse me

    The point for both is that there are ceilings of what you can accomplish at both places and both coaches have pushed their schools up against those barriers

    The fact that both programs are nationally relevant is more of a testament to them than an indictment
    What the fuck is your point. I still wouldn't hire either of those coaches and they're both losers. Hence, they're still at Iowa and Iowa St.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 100,699
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:


    Campbell has likely peaked out at Iowa St … similar to what Ferentz has done at Iowa

    It is what it is and doesn’t make either bad coaches
    Matt Campbell - The Kirk Ferentz of Iowa State!

    Ringing endorsement for hiring him.
    People that act like Ferentz is a bad coach amuse me

    The point for both is that there are ceilings of what you can accomplish at both places and both coaches have pushed their schools up against those barriers

    The fact that both programs are nationally relevant is more of a testament to them than an indictment
    He’s a good developer and Iowa seems to get some good players to the NFL, but he’s never had a good offense. They are also the type of program that will have an All American type at one LB spot and the other has cement in his shoes.
    He’s far from a perfect coach

    I think most don’t understand how difficult it is to win big big at Iowa
    Ferentz is a doog legend that was used to prop up Ty

    Your take on him is on par with your Emmert take at the same time

    Act like you're high standards guy now but your doog always shows through

    Mediocre is not something to aspire to

    Hth
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,350
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:


    Campbell has likely peaked out at Iowa St … similar to what Ferentz has done at Iowa

    It is what it is and doesn’t make either bad coaches
    Matt Campbell - The Kirk Ferentz of Iowa State!

    Ringing endorsement for hiring him.
    People that act like Ferentz is a bad coach amuse me

    The point for both is that there are ceilings of what you can accomplish at both places and both coaches have pushed their schools up against those barriers

    The fact that both programs are nationally relevant is more of a testament to them than an indictment
    He’s a good developer and Iowa seems to get some good players to the NFL, but he’s never had a good offense. They are also the type of program that will have an All American type at one LB spot and the other has cement in his shoes.
    He’s far from a perfect coach

    I think most don’t understand how difficult it is to win big big at Iowa
    Ferentz is a doog legend that was used to prop up Ty

    Your take on him is on par with your Emmert take at the same time

    Act like you're high standards guy now but your doog always shows through

    Mediocre is not something to aspire to

    Hth
    We needed to give Campbell 8 mil a year. I'm sure it would have worked out.

    #TeqThoughts
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 5,484
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    Throwing money at Campbell would have at least shown me that someone in the UW Admin gives a shit about football…

    Instead they pinched pennies on a WAC coach.

    Yawn.
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,350
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    thechatch said:

    Throwing money at Campbell would have at least shown me that someone in the UW Admin gives a shit about football…

    Instead they pinched pennies on a WAC coach.

    Yawn.

    Throwing money at a coach who had one good season where he beat Oregon and never won his conference? That's a very UW hire but no, that would be dumb af.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    haie said:

    thechatch said:

    Throwing money at Campbell would have at least shown me that someone in the UW Admin gives a shit about football…

    Instead they pinched pennies on a WAC coach.

    Yawn.

    Throwing money at a coach who had one good season where he beat Oregon and never won his conference? That's a very UW hire but no, that would be dumb af.
    Campbell’s resume blows DeBoer’s out of the water

    It’s fine to have reservations about Campbell … but there are more red flags with DeBoer
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:


    Campbell has likely peaked out at Iowa St … similar to what Ferentz has done at Iowa

    It is what it is and doesn’t make either bad coaches
    Matt Campbell - The Kirk Ferentz of Iowa State!

    Ringing endorsement for hiring him.
    People that act like Ferentz is a bad coach amuse me

    The point for both is that there are ceilings of what you can accomplish at both places and both coaches have pushed their schools up against those barriers

    The fact that both programs are nationally relevant is more of a testament to them than an indictment
    He’s a good developer and Iowa seems to get some good players to the NFL, but he’s never had a good offense. They are also the type of program that will have an All American type at one LB spot and the other has cement in his shoes.
    He’s far from a perfect coach

    I think most don’t understand how difficult it is to win big big at Iowa
    Ferentz is a doog legend that was used to prop up Ty

    Your take on him is on par with your Emmert take at the same time

    Act like you're high standards guy now but your doog always shows through

    Mediocre is not something to aspire to

    Hth
    I’ve always had high standards and can’t stand sustained mediocrity

    Given the current trending at UW … Ferentz looks like a great safe baseline

    UW should aspire to do better than what Ferentz has for his ceiling
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    thechatch said:

    Throwing money at Campbell would have at least shown me that someone in the UW Admin gives a shit about football…

    Instead they pinched pennies on a WAC coach.

    Yawn.

    Perception and reality

  • dOgmasterdOgmaster Member Posts: 560
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    Not sure how Lanning comes in at 54. This is a list of head coaches, and he has yet to coach a game. Like they say ‘He sucks until he doesn’t’!
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,587
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    dOgmaster said:

    Not sure how Lanning comes in at 54. This is a list of head coaches, and he has yet to coach a game. Like they say ‘He sucks until he doesn’t’!

    Recruiting?
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 5,484
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    haie said:

    thechatch said:

    Throwing money at Campbell would have at least shown me that someone in the UW Admin gives a shit about football…

    Instead they pinched pennies on a WAC coach.

    Yawn.

    Throwing money at a coach who had one good season where he beat Oregon and never won his conference? That's a very UW hire but no, that would be dumb af.
    UW made a bottom line decision and Deboer was clearly a cost-prudent hire that doogs can talk themselves into liking and may…just may deliver a 9 or 10 win season during his time at U-Dub, if everything falls just right.

    And that’s fine, because that’s what admin has decided is “good enough” for this fanbase. Just like Justin Wilcox is “good enough” to stay at Cal. We’ll see if he can “coach em up” and we’ll see just how good of a talent evaluator/play caller he is, because his recruiting is MWC-level, where, coincidentally, he also ALMOST won 10 games last year and ALMOST won the MWC.

    Matt Campbell also almost won 10 games at Iowa St, but that was in the Big12 and he has a NYD Bowl Win under his belt, and it looks like his recruiting will be better in shit-ass Ames, Iowa than Deboer will in “The Greatest Setting”.

    I sincerely hope this helps.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,800
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    thechatch said:

    haie said:

    thechatch said:

    Throwing money at Campbell would have at least shown me that someone in the UW Admin gives a shit about football…

    Instead they pinched pennies on a WAC coach.

    Yawn.

    Throwing money at a coach who had one good season where he beat Oregon and never won his conference? That's a very UW hire but no, that would be dumb af.
    UW made a bottom line decision and Deboer was clearly a cost-prudent hire that doogs can talk themselves into liking and may…just may deliver a 9 or 10 win season during his time at U-Dub, if everything falls just right.

    And that’s fine, because that’s what admin has decided is “good enough” for this fanbase. Just like Justin Wilcox is “good enough” to stay at Cal. We’ll see if he can “coach em up” and we’ll see just how good of a talent evaluator/play caller he is, because his recruiting is MWC-level, where, coincidentally, he also ALMOST won 10 games last year and ALMOST won the MWC.

    Matt Campbell also almost won 10 games at Iowa St, but that was in the Big12 and he has a NYD Bowl Win under his belt, and it looks like his recruiting will be better in shit-ass Ames, Iowa than Deboer will in “The Greatest Setting”.

    I sincerely hope this helps.
    How many people on this board have been to Ames?

    It’s a very difficult job
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 5,484
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    Gene Chizik went 2-10 and 3-9 in his two years in Ames and then won a Natty at Auburn yr 1.

    Dan McCarney coached 12 fucking years there and won 9 games exactly once and 7 games twice. The remaining 9 years were a bunch of 3-9 and 2-10 pants shittings.

    Ames is the worst job in the B12. No one has even mildly succeeded there, except Campbell.

    Of course he would have been a better hire than DeBoer.
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