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Dungy obviously ain't black.MikeDamone said:
TBiggs thinks Tony Dungy is a sellout for promoting fatherhood.WestlinnDuck said:
It's not that complicated. It may be hard, but the basic factors leading to a prosperous civilized society are out there. It's not complicated that an intact family with an active father is a recipe for economic success and a safe society. It's not complicated that violent felons should be in prison for a long time and that petty crime needs to be dealt with a serious punishment and repeat offenders need to be isolated. Secure borders aren't complicated. Not voting for democrat leftards isn't that complicated.creepycoug said:
Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.SFGbob said:
Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?creepycoug said:
Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.
It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.
A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days. -
Fucking Uncle TomMikeDamone said:
TBiggs thinks Tony Dungy is a sellout for promoting fatherhood.WestlinnDuck said:
It's not that complicated. It may be hard, but the basic factors leading to a prosperous civilized society are out there. It's not complicated that an intact family with an active father is a recipe for economic success and a safe society. It's not complicated that violent felons should be in prison for a long time and that petty crime needs to be dealt with a serious punishment and repeat offenders need to be isolated. Secure borders aren't complicated. Not voting for democrat leftards isn't that complicated.creepycoug said:
Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.SFGbob said:
Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?creepycoug said:
Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.
It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.
A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days. -
SFGbob said:
So basically, the Christian right might do something is your response. Pathetic.creepycoug said:
Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.SFGbob said:
Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?creepycoug said:
Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.
It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.
A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days.
Yeah I didn’t say that but sure. Thanks for the reminder. -
I'm pretty sure that the only institutionally powerful racist threat in America is the democratic party.creepycoug said:
Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.SFGbob said:
Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?creepycoug said:
Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.
It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.
A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days. -
Yeah I didn’t say that but sure. Thanks for the reminder.creepycoug said:SFGbob said:
So basically, the Christian right might do something is your response. Pathetic.creepycoug said:
Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.SFGbob said:
Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?creepycoug said:
Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.
It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.
A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days.
You might have well as said it.
Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem:
The Biden Admin isn't out there telling us that White supremacy "could" be a problem they're telling us it's the biggest problem we face and yes, your response is pathetic. -
Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years. -
Have you ever lived or worked for any length of time outside the Seattle metropolitan area in your entire life?HHusky said:
But the subject was the greatest terrorist threat to the US. Despite blob's attempts at distraction, it's simply a fact that these alt/right, room temperature IQ types have dominated the stat sheet for ideologically motivated terror for years now.Swaye said:
That's being generous. More like the Freshman team benchwarmers. These people are not smart. They aren't usually in the same zip code as smart. Lucky for everyone the numbers stay down due to lawn tractor accidents and other forms of accidental death usually starting with "Darryl watch this!"HHusky said:
You seem perilously close to calling them "the jayvee team".Swaye said:
His broader point is still on point though. I have lived all over the SE. In some areas (real rural hickville) yeah there is absolutely this sort of soft racism on display. But serious white supremacy groups and such are like Clem and the 6 toothless friends he has at the trailer park. I mean it's there, for sure, but they are isolated, and stupid, and no real threat. Couple other moron KKK groups and some other loser Aryan Nation retards. You have to look hard to find them. Which I think is his point. They aren't holding Klan rallies in every county, and even when they do a dozen losers show up who couldn't even hold a job at Jiffy Lube. They couldn't pool their money to even purchase a gun together, much less come up with a plan for how to use it.creepycoug said:
Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.
It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
There are of course your David Duke outliers, but generally speaking hardcore racism seems to me to be dying and only being carried on by the absolute most useless turds out there. Fraction of the population. Yeah, the soft racism lot is broader for sure, but he was talking actual white supremacists. Not just run of the mill soft racist rednecks in Bama baby!
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https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs -
Nope.trublue said:
Have you ever lived or worked for any length of time outside the Seattle metropolitan area in your entire life?HHusky said:
But the subject was the greatest terrorist threat to the US. Despite blob's attempts at distraction, it's simply a fact that these alt/right, room temperature IQ types have dominated the stat sheet for ideologically motivated terror for years now.Swaye said:
That's being generous. More like the Freshman team benchwarmers. These people are not smart. They aren't usually in the same zip code as smart. Lucky for everyone the numbers stay down due to lawn tractor accidents and other forms of accidental death usually starting with "Darryl watch this!"HHusky said:
You seem perilously close to calling them "the jayvee team".Swaye said:
His broader point is still on point though. I have lived all over the SE. In some areas (real rural hickville) yeah there is absolutely this sort of soft racism on display. But serious white supremacy groups and such are like Clem and the 6 toothless friends he has at the trailer park. I mean it's there, for sure, but they are isolated, and stupid, and no real threat. Couple other moron KKK groups and some other loser Aryan Nation retards. You have to look hard to find them. Which I think is his point. They aren't holding Klan rallies in every county, and even when they do a dozen losers show up who couldn't even hold a job at Jiffy Lube. They couldn't pool their money to even purchase a gun together, much less come up with a plan for how to use it.creepycoug said:
Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.
It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
There are of course your David Duke outliers, but generally speaking hardcore racism seems to me to be dying and only being carried on by the absolute most useless turds out there. Fraction of the population. Yeah, the soft racism lot is broader for sure, but he was talking actual white supremacists. Not just run of the mill soft racist rednecks in Bama baby!
But I've spent a lot of time in St Louis. -
These people aren’t extremists, associated with toxic masculinity, part of the Manosphere or anti vaxxed s though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
You should feel embarrassed posting that, lady. But you likely aren’t. Unless you were trying to prove the original point , which is what your article did. -
The subject was terrorism, though blob has tried to obscure that fact.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
“the greatest terrorism-related threat that we face in the homeland is the threat of domestic violent extremism.”
And yes, white supremacist extremists are the largest share of that terrorism year after year.
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Check the facts, madame. The argument was that “white supremacist” aren’t the greatest threat to America as the left espouses. No one said terrorist threat, lady.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
Here is the op for your reading pleasure.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
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Even the writer of blob's linked piece understood the subject was terrorism, not crime generally. Did you read it?MikeDamone said:
Check the facts, madame. The argument was that “white supremacist” aren’t the greatest threat to America as the left espouses. No one said terrorist threat, lady.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
Here is the op for your reading pleasure.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
"This is not the first time that Mayorkas has blamed the greatest threat of domestic terrorism on White supremacists." -
Cool red herring ma’am.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism, though blob has tried to obscure that fact.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
“the greatest terrorism-related threat that we face in the homeland is the threat of domestic violent extremism.”
And yes, white supremacist extremists are the largest share of that terrorism year after year. -
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, That's called a slow weekend in Chicago.MikeDamone said:
Check the facts, madame. The argument was that “white supremacist” aren’t the greatest threat to America as the left espouses. No one said terrorist threat, lady.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
Here is the op for your reading pleasure.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
-
Liar. White supremacy isn't even close to greatest threat we face.HHusky said:
Even the writer of blob's linked piece understood the subject was terrorism, not crime generally. Did you read it?MikeDamone said:
Check the facts, madame. The argument was that “white supremacist” aren’t the greatest threat to America as the left espouses. No one said terrorist threat, lady.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
Here is the op for your reading pleasure.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
"This is not the first time that Mayorkas has blamed the greatest threat of domestic terrorism on White supremacists." -
So you didn't read it. You took blob's word for what the guy said.MikeDamone said:
Cool red herring ma’am.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism, though blob has tried to obscure that fact.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
“the greatest terrorism-related threat that we face in the homeland is the threat of domestic violent extremism.”
And yes, white supremacist extremists are the largest share of that terrorism year after year.
That's a triumph of hope over experience. It's on you. You should have known better. -
He used the example of bomb threats to Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs). In recent months there has been an alleged uptick in those threats. He spoke about working with Black universities and churches to help them improve security.
Do we even know who is behind these bomb threats? -
Much of the gang violence in Chicago and LA is between black and Hispanic gangs. Anyone want take a bet that little if any of that violence is attributed "domestic extremism?"
-
It took you 4 pages to try to change the topic, madame. You tried to argue against this all day:HHusky said:
So you didn't read it. You took blob's word for what the guy said.MikeDamone said:
Cool red herring ma’am.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism, though blob has tried to obscure that fact.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
“the greatest terrorism-related threat that we face in the homeland is the threat of domestic violent extremism.”
And yes, white supremacist extremists are the largest share of that terrorism year after year.
That's a triumph of hope over experience. It's on you. You should have known better.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
And failed as usual. But white supremacy is the greatest TERRORIST threat! Which no one mentioned until you brought it up 20 minutes ago. Gangs are much more of a threat than all terrorist groups combined. And it’s not even close. Go back to arguing about East St Louis. You failed at that too, but you didn’t sound quite as dumb as you do now.
White “terrorism” in all of the country = 29…Chicago gang murders in 2021 = 700+
Go take another midol lady. It might make you feel better after getting embarrassed here again. -
SFGbob said:
Liar. White supremacy isn't even close to greatest threat we face.HHusky said:
Even the writer of blob's linked piece understood the subject was terrorism, not crime generally. Did you read it?MikeDamone said:
Check the facts, madame. The argument was that “white supremacist” aren’t the greatest threat to America as the left espouses. No one said terrorist threat, lady.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
Here is the op for your reading pleasure.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
"This is not the first time that Mayorkas has blamed the greatest threat of domestic terrorism on White supremacists."
Herr dazzler is arguing that of all the terrorist threats, which is close to zero, white supremacist terrorism is the worst.SFGbob said:
Liar. White supremacy isn't even close to greatest threat we face.HHusky said:
Even the writer of blob's linked piece understood the subject was terrorism, not crime generally. Did you read it?MikeDamone said:
Check the facts, madame. The argument was that “white supremacist” aren’t the greatest threat to America as the left espouses. No one said terrorist threat, lady.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
Here is the op for your reading pleasure.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
"This is not the first time that Mayorkas has blamed the greatest threat of domestic terrorism on White supremacists."
So out of all the murders, the .001% that were done by terrorists, the whites did the most. So to answer the original question, out of 20,000 murders in 2021, the biggest threat we face is from people who committed 29.
But but but…the 29 murders were terrorism and the article said whites did the most!!!!
Fucking idiot. -
So no one ever said that white supremacy is the greatest threat to Americans. blob got you girls worked up over a lie he was telling and I'm embarrassed?MikeDamone said:
It took you 4 pages to try to change the topic, madame. You tried to argue against this all day:HHusky said:
So you didn't read it. You took blob's word for what the guy said.MikeDamone said:
Cool red herring ma’am.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism, though blob has tried to obscure that fact.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
“the greatest terrorism-related threat that we face in the homeland is the threat of domestic violent extremism.”
And yes, white supremacist extremists are the largest share of that terrorism year after year.
That's a triumph of hope over experience. It's on you. You should have known better.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
And failed as usual. But white supremacy is the greatest TERRORIST threat! Which no one mentioned until you brought it up 20 minutes ago. Gangs are much more of a threat than all terrorist groups combined. And it’s not even close. Go back to arguing about East St Louis. You failed at that too, but you didn’t sound quite as dumb as you do now.
White “terrorism” in all of the country = 29…Chicago gang murders in 2021 = 700+
Go take another midol lady. It might make you feel better after getting embarrassed here again.
Uhhhh, no.
I assumed we all understood this was blob's patented dishonesty at work when I called out his characteristic appeals to racism.
I gave you gals too much credit. That's on me. -
Garbage in garbage out.
One of the most striking features of white supremacist murders is the large proportion of nonideological killings to ideological killings. Over the past 10 years, only 86 of the 244 white supremacist killings (35%) were ideological murders. The remainder were group-related but not ideological attacks, were related to traditional criminal activities, or were murders for which no clear motive could be determined.
So the ADL gets to determine if something qualifies as a "white suremacist murder" even if the murder isn't for ideological reasons. White racist kills his wife and the ADL will tally that as a "white supremacist" murder. What do you want to bet that same standard isn't applied to black folks. -
The Jews are always smarter than you, blob. Not only the Jews, but the Jews definitely.SFGbob said:Garbage in garbage out.
One of the most striking features of white supremacist murders is the large proportion of nonideological killings to ideological killings. Over the past 10 years, only 86 of the 244 white supremacist killings (35%) were ideological murders. The remainder were group-related but not ideological attacks, were related to traditional criminal activities, or were murders for which no clear motive could be determined.
So the ADL gets to determine if something qualifies as a "white suremacist murder" even if the murder isn't for ideological reasons. White racist kills his wife and the ADL will tally that as a "white supremacist" murder. What do you want to bet that same standard isn't applied to black folks. -
Read the piece of garbage Dazzler linked. The ADL tally's something as a "White supremacist murder" even when the murder victims are white and the murder wasn't carried out of ideolgical reasons. It's pure crap.MikeDamone said:SFGbob said:
Liar. White supremacy isn't even close to greatest threat we face.HHusky said:
Even the writer of blob's linked piece understood the subject was terrorism, not crime generally. Did you read it?MikeDamone said:
Check the facts, madame. The argument was that “white supremacist” aren’t the greatest threat to America as the left espouses. No one said terrorist threat, lady.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
Here is the op for your reading pleasure.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
"This is not the first time that Mayorkas has blamed the greatest threat of domestic terrorism on White supremacists."
Herr dazzler is arguing that of all the terrorist threats, which is close to zero, white supremacist terrorism is the worst.SFGbob said:
Liar. White supremacy isn't even close to greatest threat we face.HHusky said:
Even the writer of blob's linked piece understood the subject was terrorism, not crime generally. Did you read it?MikeDamone said:
Check the facts, madame. The argument was that “white supremacist” aren’t the greatest threat to America as the left espouses. No one said terrorist threat, lady.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
Here is the op for your reading pleasure.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
"This is not the first time that Mayorkas has blamed the greatest threat of domestic terrorism on White supremacists."
So out of all the murders, the .001% that were done by terrorists, the whites did the most. So to answer the original question, out of 20,000 murders in 2021, the biggest threat we face is from people who committed 29.
But but but…the 29 murders were terrorism and the article said whites did the most!!!!
Fucking idiot. -
:
No, you couldn’t formulate an coherent response so you spent the day in hysterics about East St Louis, then when that fell flat, you reframed the argument. After several hours you threw a Hail Mary to reframe the original argument.HHusky said:
So no one ever said that white supremacy is the greatest threat to Americans. blob got you girls worked up over a lie he was telling and I'm embarrassed?MikeDamone said:
It took you 4 pages to try to change the topic, madame. You tried to argue against this all day:HHusky said:
So you didn't read it. You took blob's word for what the guy said.MikeDamone said:
Cool red herring ma’am.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism, though blob has tried to obscure that fact.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
“the greatest terrorism-related threat that we face in the homeland is the threat of domestic violent extremism.”
And yes, white supremacist extremists are the largest share of that terrorism year after year.
That's a triumph of hope over experience. It's on you. You should have known better.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
And failed as usual. But white supremacy is the greatest TERRORIST threat! Which no one mentioned until you brought it up 20 minutes ago. Gangs are much more of a threat than all terrorist groups combined. And it’s not even close. Go back to arguing about East St Louis. You failed at that too, but you didn’t sound quite as dumb as you do now.
White “terrorism” in all of the country = 29…Chicago gang murders in 2021 = 700+
Go take another midol lady. It might make you feel better after getting embarrassed here again.
Uhhhh, no.
I assumed we all understood this was blob's patented dishonesty at work when I called out his characteristic appeals to racism.
I gave you gals too much credit. That's on me.
“White” Terrorism is harped on at Al Sharpton event and you’re baffled at why there is a race angle. You’re red herring is noted, madame. -
Yeah, I wouldn't want to defend that steaming pile of bullshit you linked either Dazzler.HHusky said:
The Jews are always smarter than you, blob. Not only the Jews, but the Jews definitely.SFGbob said:Garbage in garbage out.
One of the most striking features of white supremacist murders is the large proportion of nonideological killings to ideological killings. Over the past 10 years, only 86 of the 244 white supremacist killings (35%) were ideological murders. The remainder were group-related but not ideological attacks, were related to traditional criminal activities, or were murders for which no clear motive could be determined.
So the ADL gets to determine if something qualifies as a "white suremacist murder" even if the murder isn't for ideological reasons. White racist kills his wife and the ADL will tally that as a "white supremacist" murder. What do you want to bet that same standard isn't applied to black folks. -
Toxic masculinity and the monosphere!SFGbob said:
Read the piece of garbage Dazzler linked. The ADL tally's something as a "White supremacist murder" even when the murder victims are white and the murder wasn't carried out of ideolgical reasons. It's pure crap.MikeDamone said:SFGbob said:
Liar. White supremacy isn't even close to greatest threat we face.HHusky said:
Even the writer of blob's linked piece understood the subject was terrorism, not crime generally. Did you read it?MikeDamone said:
Check the facts, madame. The argument was that “white supremacist” aren’t the greatest threat to America as the left espouses. No one said terrorist threat, lady.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
Here is the op for your reading pleasure.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
"This is not the first time that Mayorkas has blamed the greatest threat of domestic terrorism on White supremacists."
Herr dazzler is arguing that of all the terrorist threats, which is close to zero, white supremacist terrorism is the worst.SFGbob said:
Liar. White supremacy isn't even close to greatest threat we face.HHusky said:
Even the writer of blob's linked piece understood the subject was terrorism, not crime generally. Did you read it?MikeDamone said:
Check the facts, madame. The argument was that “white supremacist” aren’t the greatest threat to America as the left espouses. No one said terrorist threat, lady.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
Here is the op for your reading pleasure.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
"This is not the first time that Mayorkas has blamed the greatest threat of domestic terrorism on White supremacists."
So out of all the murders, the .001% that were done by terrorists, the whites did the most. So to answer the original question, out of 20,000 murders in 2021, the biggest threat we face is from people who committed 29.
But but but…the 29 murders were terrorism and the article said whites did the most!!!!
Fucking idiot. -
White guy murders his white wife and because the white guy is a racist that's counted a "white supremacist murder" by the ADL. Hispanic gang specifically targets rival blacks gangs for murder and firebombing and that's not counted as domestic extremism violence by the ADL.
-
Leading cause of death for black males under 40 is murder. Most often that murder carried out by another black person. Often these murders go unsolved because the people who know something or might have seen something are intimidated into not testifying or talking with the police. Snitches get stitches.MikeDamone said:
Toxic masculinity and the monosphere!SFGbob said:
Read the piece of garbage Dazzler linked. The ADL tally's something as a "White supremacist murder" even when the murder victims are white and the murder wasn't carried out of ideolgical reasons. It's pure crap.MikeDamone said:SFGbob said:
Liar. White supremacy isn't even close to greatest threat we face.HHusky said:
Even the writer of blob's linked piece understood the subject was terrorism, not crime generally. Did you read it?MikeDamone said:
Check the facts, madame. The argument was that “white supremacist” aren’t the greatest threat to America as the left espouses. No one said terrorist threat, lady.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
Here is the op for your reading pleasure.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
"This is not the first time that Mayorkas has blamed the greatest threat of domestic terrorism on White supremacists."
Herr dazzler is arguing that of all the terrorist threats, which is close to zero, white supremacist terrorism is the worst.SFGbob said:
Liar. White supremacy isn't even close to greatest threat we face.HHusky said:
Even the writer of blob's linked piece understood the subject was terrorism, not crime generally. Did you read it?MikeDamone said:
Check the facts, madame. The argument was that “white supremacist” aren’t the greatest threat to America as the left espouses. No one said terrorist threat, lady.HHusky said:
The subject was terrorism.MikeDamone said:
These people aren’t extremists though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
Gangster Disciples
Vice Lords
Black P. Stones
Latin Kings
Black Disciples
Maniac Latin Disciples
Spanish Cobras
Almighty Saints
Spanish Gangster Disciples
Simon City Royals
Imperial Gangsters
Insane Deuces
Orquestra Albany
Latin Eagles
Latin Jivers
Northside Popes
Satan Disciples
La Raza
Milwaukee Kings
Chi West
Latin Stylers
Brazers
Latin Counts
Bishops
Harrison Gents
Spanish Lords
Vikings
Sircon City Gangsters
Mickey Cobras
614
Ambrose
Two-Six
Twelfth Street Players
Black Souls
Four Corner Hustlers
Latin Lovers
C-Notes
Jousters
Latin Brothers
Insane Unknowns
Insane Dragons
Pachuchos
New Breeds
Flip City Kings
Outlaw Loko Bloods
AKrho Pinoy
Vietnamese Clan
Cambodian Mafia
Bahala Na Gang
Barrio Pobre
Absolutely no one said terrorists kill more Americans than criminal gangs do.
Here is the op for your reading pleasure.
“I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.”
"This is not the first time that Mayorkas has blamed the greatest threat of domestic terrorism on White supremacists."
So out of all the murders, the .001% that were done by terrorists, the whites did the most. So to answer the original question, out of 20,000 murders in 2021, the biggest threat we face is from people who committed 29.
But but but…the 29 murders were terrorism and the article said whites did the most!!!!
Fucking idiot.
But according to Dazzler and the ADL we're to believe that none of this is a form of domestic terrorism.
