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Dungy obviously ain't black.MikeDamone said:
TBiggs thinks Tony Dungy is a sellout for promoting fatherhood.WestlinnDuck said:
It's not that complicated. It may be hard, but the basic factors leading to a prosperous civilized society are out there. It's not complicated that an intact family with an active father is a recipe for economic success and a safe society. It's not complicated that violent felons should be in prison for a long time and that petty crime needs to be dealt with a serious punishment and repeat offenders need to be isolated. Secure borders aren't complicated. Not voting for democrat leftards isn't that complicated.creepycoug said:
Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.SFGbob said:
Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?creepycoug said:
Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.
It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.
A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days. -
Fucking Uncle TomMikeDamone said:
TBiggs thinks Tony Dungy is a sellout for promoting fatherhood.WestlinnDuck said:
It's not that complicated. It may be hard, but the basic factors leading to a prosperous civilized society are out there. It's not complicated that an intact family with an active father is a recipe for economic success and a safe society. It's not complicated that violent felons should be in prison for a long time and that petty crime needs to be dealt with a serious punishment and repeat offenders need to be isolated. Secure borders aren't complicated. Not voting for democrat leftards isn't that complicated.creepycoug said:
Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.SFGbob said:
Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?creepycoug said:
Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.
It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.
A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days. -
SFGbob said:
So basically, the Christian right might do something is your response. Pathetic.creepycoug said:
Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.SFGbob said:
Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?creepycoug said:
Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.
It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.
A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days.
Yeah I didn’t say that but sure. Thanks for the reminder. -
I'm pretty sure that the only institutionally powerful racist threat in America is the democratic party.creepycoug said:
Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.SFGbob said:
Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?creepycoug said:
Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.
It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.
A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days. -
Yeah I didn’t say that but sure. Thanks for the reminder.creepycoug said:SFGbob said:
So basically, the Christian right might do something is your response. Pathetic.creepycoug said:
Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.SFGbob said:
Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?creepycoug said:
Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.
It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.
A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days.
You might have well as said it.
Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem:
The Biden Admin isn't out there telling us that White supremacy "could" be a problem they're telling us it's the biggest problem we face and yes, your response is pathetic. -
Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years. -
Have you ever lived or worked for any length of time outside the Seattle metropolitan area in your entire life?HHusky said:
But the subject was the greatest terrorist threat to the US. Despite blob's attempts at distraction, it's simply a fact that these alt/right, room temperature IQ types have dominated the stat sheet for ideologically motivated terror for years now.Swaye said:
That's being generous. More like the Freshman team benchwarmers. These people are not smart. They aren't usually in the same zip code as smart. Lucky for everyone the numbers stay down due to lawn tractor accidents and other forms of accidental death usually starting with "Darryl watch this!"HHusky said:
You seem perilously close to calling them "the jayvee team".Swaye said:
His broader point is still on point though. I have lived all over the SE. In some areas (real rural hickville) yeah there is absolutely this sort of soft racism on display. But serious white supremacy groups and such are like Clem and the 6 toothless friends he has at the trailer park. I mean it's there, for sure, but they are isolated, and stupid, and no real threat. Couple other moron KKK groups and some other loser Aryan Nation retards. You have to look hard to find them. Which I think is his point. They aren't holding Klan rallies in every county, and even when they do a dozen losers show up who couldn't even hold a job at Jiffy Lube. They couldn't pool their money to even purchase a gun together, much less come up with a plan for how to use it.creepycoug said:
Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.
It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
There are of course your David Duke outliers, but generally speaking hardcore racism seems to me to be dying and only being carried on by the absolute most useless turds out there. Fraction of the population. Yeah, the soft racism lot is broader for sure, but he was talking actual white supremacists. Not just run of the mill soft racist rednecks in Bama baby!
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https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs -
Nope.trublue said:
Have you ever lived or worked for any length of time outside the Seattle metropolitan area in your entire life?HHusky said:
But the subject was the greatest terrorist threat to the US. Despite blob's attempts at distraction, it's simply a fact that these alt/right, room temperature IQ types have dominated the stat sheet for ideologically motivated terror for years now.Swaye said:
That's being generous. More like the Freshman team benchwarmers. These people are not smart. They aren't usually in the same zip code as smart. Lucky for everyone the numbers stay down due to lawn tractor accidents and other forms of accidental death usually starting with "Darryl watch this!"HHusky said:
You seem perilously close to calling them "the jayvee team".Swaye said:
His broader point is still on point though. I have lived all over the SE. In some areas (real rural hickville) yeah there is absolutely this sort of soft racism on display. But serious white supremacy groups and such are like Clem and the 6 toothless friends he has at the trailer park. I mean it's there, for sure, but they are isolated, and stupid, and no real threat. Couple other moron KKK groups and some other loser Aryan Nation retards. You have to look hard to find them. Which I think is his point. They aren't holding Klan rallies in every county, and even when they do a dozen losers show up who couldn't even hold a job at Jiffy Lube. They couldn't pool their money to even purchase a gun together, much less come up with a plan for how to use it.creepycoug said:
Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.
It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
There are of course your David Duke outliers, but generally speaking hardcore racism seems to me to be dying and only being carried on by the absolute most useless turds out there. Fraction of the population. Yeah, the soft racism lot is broader for sure, but he was talking actual white supremacists. Not just run of the mill soft racist rednecks in Bama baby!
But I've spent a lot of time in St Louis. -
These people aren’t extremists, associated with toxic masculinity, part of the Manosphere or anti vaxxed s though…so no big deal.HHusky said:
https://www.adl.org/media/17498/downloadUW_Doog_Bot said:Let's be clear, it's the dems trying to label anyone they disagree with as white supremacists and domestic terrorists.
Pick your favorite group they've labeled as a white supremacist group that has nothing to do with actual racist white nationalists over the last 4 years.
Murder & Extremism
in The United States 2021
In 2021, domestic extremists killed at least 29 people in the United States, in 19
separate incidents. This represents a modest increase from the 23 extremist-related
murders documented in 2020 but is far lower than the number of murders committed
in any of the five years prior (which ranged from 45 to 78).
The 2021 murder totals were low primarily because no high-casualty extremist-related
shooting spree occurred this past year. Such sprees are the main contributor to high
murder totals.
Most of the murders (26 of 29) were committed by right-wing extremists, which is
usually the case. However, two killings were committed by Black nationalists and one
by an Islamist extremist—the latter being the first such killing since 2018.
Most of the 2021 murders were committed by people associated with longstanding
extremist movements, such as white supremacy and the sovereign citizen movement.
However, 2021 continued the trend of recent years of seeing some murders from newer
types of extremism, including QAnon adherents, people associated with the toxic
masculinity subculture of the “manosphere” and anti-vaccination extremists.
White supremacists killed more people in 2021 than any other type of extremist, though
not an outright majority, as is often the case. An in-depth look at white supremacist
killings over the past 10 years demonstrates the dangers posed by alt right white
supremacists and white supremacist prison gangs
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