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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,386 Standard Supporter
    edited April 2022
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:





    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    I'd love to compare the body counts of a year's worth of killings carried out by White supremacists, to your typical 3-day weekend of murders and shootings carried out by gang-bangers in Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis.

    East St. Louis has a population of less than 20,000.

    Did you maybe mean (non-directional) St. Louis?
    Nope, I meant the suburban St. Louis shit hole East St. Louis, which for years had one of the higher murder rates in the country and it wasn't white supremacists that were doing the killing.
    Congrats to the Kansas City Jayhawks poast of the day.
    https://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-East-St.-Louis-Illinois.html

    Just because it only has 20K people, doesn't mean East St. Louis, IL isn't one of the most dangerous places in the country.

    Now go back and work on your Russian state narrative homework, Dazzler. Stats are clearly not your forte'.



    blob said "body counts" originally. He swiftly went to murder rates to suggest he really meant to say East St. Louis.

    Chicago, Baltimore and St. Louis get grouped in these discussions of murder numbers all the time. The tiny town of East St. Louis, not so much.

    E. St. Louis, IL


    Chicago, IL


    Baltimore, MD

    Are you fucking retarded?

    Statistics are adjusted on a per capita basis.

    Tool.

    "Body counts" are not adjusted on a per capita basis.

    Just how much money do you owe blob anyway?

    For 20,000 people, that murder rate is a body count.

    Tool. Fuck off.

    You girls are really married to this narrative, aren't you?

    The truth is that blob's desire to emphasize murderous merged with his desire to emphasize blackness. Thus he grouped Chicago, Baltimore and East St. Louis as if they are somehow peers. (East St. Louis is there simply for its overwhelming blackness.)

    He won't even admit it on an anonymous message bored. Sad!

    Why do you enjoy unfunny trolling so much? You are still on about this when we all know why he made the point. And no, it’s not racist. East St Louis is a dangerous area.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

    Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

    It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
    Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,096 Standard Supporter
    I haven't been to hick inbred creationist areas like Alabama but I have been to VA @Swaye and FL (3 x). Yes, I'm sure there's soft racism and maybe it's easy for a white guy to talk but the domestic terrorist groups are few and far between. The SPLC once was a good org, but now it's devolved into labeling right of center churches as racist shitbags or something. It's the same thing as labeling Trump and LA Pen as far right nazis. @creepycoug
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676

    The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

    Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

    It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you are probably gay.
    crisped
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,273
    SFGbob said:

    The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

    Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

    It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
    Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?
    Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.

    Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.

    A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited April 2022

    SFGbob said:

    The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

    Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

    It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
    Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?
    Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.

    Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.

    A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days.
    And the bottom line is the USA is the least racist country on earth and black people are certainly not looking for refugee status anywhere. And in fact, black people, like people of all races are lining up to get in to the point they will risk their life to come here.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    SFGbob said:

    The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

    Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

    It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
    Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?
    Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.

    Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.

    A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days.
    So basically, the Christian right might do something is your response. Pathetic.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    If you're a victim of a violent crime in America today what's the likelihood that a white supremacist is the person who carried out that crime?

    Homocide is the leading cause of death for black males under the age of 40. What percentage of those being killed were killed by white supremacists? Is it even .10 of 1%?
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,894 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

    Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

    It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
    Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?
    Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.

    Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.

    A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days.
    It's not that complicated. It may be hard, but the basic factors leading to a prosperous civilized society are out there. It's not complicated that an intact family with an active father is a recipe for economic success and a safe society. It's not complicated that violent felons should be in prison for a long time and that petty crime needs to be dealt with a serious punishment and repeat offenders need to be isolated. Secure borders aren't complicated. Not voting for democrat leftards isn't that complicated.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    SFGbob said:

    The white supremacist/white nationalist narrative is the dumbest thing ever. Well, it's tied with all the other false narrative they've put out lately. There are maybe 20,000 actual white supremacists and they live in white areas like Whidbey Island and the inland NW.

    Not to interrupt the party here, nor imply that I agree that white supremacists are a national threat (so save it), but this is ridiculous.

    It makes me wonder if you really do hate the SEC as much as you say you do. Spend some time, real time, in the southeastern US and then get back to me, because you gave them a huge pass. If you've lived your whole life in the PNW you really don't know shit.
    Where do you put white supremacists on the list of threats we face here in America?
    Actual, organized white supremacists? Low, because there aren't enough of them. I'm not sure what "soft" racism is, but the racism that exists is, almost by definition, a non-threat because we've always had it.

    Having said that, it's not a crazy leap of faith to think that maybe in time it could be. Some combination of factors could cause it to expand and, like anything, get to a critical mass such that it becomes a problem: continued abuse of the term and weaponizing of it by left-wing PC cops who use it to ruin lives with cancel culture, lack of employment opportunities and economic failure of lower-class white people who need something on which to aim their frustrations (which will of course coincide with diminishing opportunities for black and hispanic people too, and they'll have their scapegoats) and continued widening of the divide in our culture that pits people against one another. I do hold the left accountable for much of that, but don't view it entirely in the stark contrasting terms we typically see here in the Tug. There are a lot of shitty people out there and it's not like we're talking about Jefferson owning slaves, which is absurd. 1964 and Jim Crow wasn't that long ago, so there was definitely some "there" there.

    A society like ours is complicated, and solutions are complicated and require some appreciation of subtlety, which is a rare thing these days.
    It's not that complicated. It may be hard, but the basic factors leading to a prosperous civilized society are out there. It's not complicated that an intact family with an active father is a recipe for economic success and a safe society. It's not complicated that violent felons should be in prison for a long time and that petty crime needs to be dealt with a serious punishment and repeat offenders need to be isolated. Secure borders aren't complicated. Not voting for democrat leftards isn't that complicated.
    TBiggs thinks Tony Dungy is a sellout for promoting fatherhood.