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Michigan Kidnapping case blows up in the Government's face

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  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    HHusky said:

    OJ was acquitted.

    It's okay for the jury to say it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, even if they were guilty.

    That's our system.

    Only somebody as stupid as you would think the Government had a case worthy of prosecution.

    When there are more FBI agents and informants than “bad guys” and the lead FBI agent is fired incident to a domestic violence incident with his spouse, blame it on the jury . . . What law school did you go to again, dumbkopf?

    Big news splash when arrests went down.

    Where was the news coverage afterwards?
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,978
    edited April 2022

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    OJ was acquitted.

    It's okay for the jury to say it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, even if they were guilty.

    That's our system.

    Damn, the entrapment didn't work.
    "I got entrapped into committing a violent felony" is quite the defense. Vindicated!
    What violent felony? I didn't know the governor was physically assaulted and kidnapped. Gotta link? Geezus you suck at this.
    fly speck superiority guy

    "I was merely entrapped into plotting a violent felony."
    There you go. There was no violent felony. And if you had gone to law school you would have learned that entrapment is an actual defense. I pity your mythical clients.
    Who said it isn't a defense? You might want one of these guys to marry your sister now.
    Pretend they're Muslim terrorists Dazzler and then you might be able to gin up your siutational rage about Government entrapment.
    Like Capitol police officers holding the door open for 'trespassers'.



    Funny you say that…



    He will be promoted yet again for his continued corruption…

  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,971 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    OJ was acquitted.

    It's okay for the jury to say it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, even if they were guilty.

    That's our system.

    In other words, H still believes they're guilty and it wasn't a load of shit from the get-go. Got it.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,872

    HHusky said:

    OJ was acquitted.

    It's okay for the jury to say it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, even if they were guilty.

    That's our system.

    In other words, H still believes they're guilty and it wasn't a load of shit from the get-go. Got it.
    "Entrapment" means you did it. Whether allowing people to excuse their crimes on the basis that someone talked them into committing said crimes is a good or a bad thing is a philosophical debate.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,915 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    OJ was acquitted.

    It's okay for the jury to say it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, even if they were guilty.

    That's our system.

    In other words, H still believes they're guilty and it wasn't a load of shit from the get-go. Got it.
    "Entrapment" means you did it. Whether allowing people to excuse their crimes on the basis that someone talked them into committing said crimes is a good or a bad thing is a philosophical debate.
    So why weren't they convicted consuelo?
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,366 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    OJ was acquitted.

    It's okay for the jury to say it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, even if they were guilty.

    That's our system.

    In other words, H still believes they're guilty and it wasn't a load of shit from the get-go. Got it.
    "Entrapment" means you did it. Whether allowing people to excuse their crimes on the basis that someone talked them into committing said crimes is a good or a bad thing is a philosophical debate.
    It isn't a "philosophical debate". It's called the law, and the debate occurred a long-time ago and if you want to allow the government to entrap people, let us know. You approve of entrapment, the law does not. Feel to get entrapment approved as an appropriate use of government resources. Scratch a leftist, find a fascist.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,872

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    OJ was acquitted.

    It's okay for the jury to say it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, even if they were guilty.

    That's our system.

    In other words, H still believes they're guilty and it wasn't a load of shit from the get-go. Got it.
    "Entrapment" means you did it. Whether allowing people to excuse their crimes on the basis that someone talked them into committing said crimes is a good or a bad thing is a philosophical debate.
    It isn't a "philosophical debate". It's called the law, and the debate occurred a long-time ago and if you want to allow the government to entrap people, let us know. You approve of entrapment, the law does not. Feel to get entrapment approved as an appropriate use of government resources. Scratch a leftist, find a fascist.
    It is the law, for the most part, today. It has not been the law for most of this country's history. It is very much a philosophical debate whether and when the defense should apply. Your suggestion to the contrary hints at your mental decline.

    But your sympathies for mouth breathing militia types who play soldier and plot felonies in the woods is noted.

    I have no problem with the verdict. The suggestible creatures acquitted are your base.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,872
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    OJ was acquitted.

    It's okay for the jury to say it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, even if they were guilty.

    That's our system.

    In other words, H still believes they're guilty and it wasn't a load of shit from the get-go. Got it.
    "Entrapment" means you did it. Whether allowing people to excuse their crimes on the basis that someone talked them into committing said crimes is a good or a bad thing is a philosophical debate.
    So why weren't they convicted consuelo?
    Someone talked them into it, Inspector.

    Do try to keep up.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,366 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    OJ was acquitted.

    It's okay for the jury to say it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, even if they were guilty.

    That's our system.

    In other words, H still believes they're guilty and it wasn't a load of shit from the get-go. Got it.
    "Entrapment" means you did it. Whether allowing people to excuse their crimes on the basis that someone talked them into committing said crimes is a good or a bad thing is a philosophical debate.
    It isn't a "philosophical debate". It's called the law, and the debate occurred a long-time ago and if you want to allow the government to entrap people, let us know. You approve of entrapment, the law does not. Feel to get entrapment approved as an appropriate use of government resources. Scratch a leftist, find a fascist.
    It is the law, for the most part, today. It has not been the law for most of this country's history. It is very much a philosophical debate whether and when the defense should apply. Your suggestion to the contrary hints at your mental decline.

    But your sympathies for mouth breathing militia types who play soldier and plot felonies in the woods is noted.

    I have no problem with the verdict. The suggestible creatures acquitted are your base.
    Unlike the fascist blue governors and the dementia patient that aren't playing in the woods but are actively destroying American lives. Playing in the woods isnt' costing me a dime unlike your fascist base.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,872

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    OJ was acquitted.

    It's okay for the jury to say it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, even if they were guilty.

    That's our system.

    In other words, H still believes they're guilty and it wasn't a load of shit from the get-go. Got it.
    "Entrapment" means you did it. Whether allowing people to excuse their crimes on the basis that someone talked them into committing said crimes is a good or a bad thing is a philosophical debate.
    It isn't a "philosophical debate". It's called the law, and the debate occurred a long-time ago and if you want to allow the government to entrap people, let us know. You approve of entrapment, the law does not. Feel to get entrapment approved as an appropriate use of government resources. Scratch a leftist, find a fascist.
    It is the law, for the most part, today. It has not been the law for most of this country's history. It is very much a philosophical debate whether and when the defense should apply. Your suggestion to the contrary hints at your mental decline.

    But your sympathies for mouth breathing militia types who play soldier and plot felonies in the woods is noted.

    I have no problem with the verdict. The suggestible creatures acquitted are your base.
    Unlike the fascist blue governors and the dementia patient that aren't playing in the woods but are actively destroying American lives. Playing in the woods isnt' costing me a dime unlike your fascist base.
    So you endorse a defense which was rejected prior to the 20th Century.

    It's like you see a living, breathing Constitution or something.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,366 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    OJ was acquitted.

    It's okay for the jury to say it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, even if they were guilty.

    That's our system.

    In other words, H still believes they're guilty and it wasn't a load of shit from the get-go. Got it.
    "Entrapment" means you did it. Whether allowing people to excuse their crimes on the basis that someone talked them into committing said crimes is a good or a bad thing is a philosophical debate.
    It isn't a "philosophical debate". It's called the law, and the debate occurred a long-time ago and if you want to allow the government to entrap people, let us know. You approve of entrapment, the law does not. Feel to get entrapment approved as an appropriate use of government resources. Scratch a leftist, find a fascist.
    It is the law, for the most part, today. It has not been the law for most of this country's history. It is very much a philosophical debate whether and when the defense should apply. Your suggestion to the contrary hints at your mental decline.

    But your sympathies for mouth breathing militia types who play soldier and plot felonies in the woods is noted.

    I have no problem with the verdict. The suggestible creatures acquitted are your base.
    Unlike the fascist blue governors and the dementia patient that aren't playing in the woods but are actively destroying American lives. Playing in the woods isnt' costing me a dime unlike your fascist base.
    So you endorse a defense which was rejected prior to the 20th Century.

    It's like you see a living, breathing Constitution or something.
    Unlike you, I actually went to law school and learned about these things called state statutes which under the state constitutions have been based by the legislature and signed into law by the governor. You suck at this.

    ORS 161.275
    Entrapment
    TEXT

    (1)The commission of acts which would otherwise constitute an offense is not criminal if the actor engaged in the proscribed conduct because the actor was induced to do so by a law enforcement official, or by a person acting in cooperation with a law enforcement official, for the purpose of obtaining evidence to be used against the actor in a criminal prosecution.

    (2)As used in this section, “induced” means that the actor did not contemplate and would not otherwise have engaged in the proscribed conduct. Merely affording the actor an opportunity to commit an offense does not constitute entrapment. [1971 c.743 §35]
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,237 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    OJ was acquitted.

    It's okay for the jury to say it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, even if they were guilty.

    That's our system.

    In other words, H still believes they're guilty and it wasn't a load of shit from the get-go. Got it.
    "Entrapment" means you did it. Whether allowing people to excuse their crimes on the basis that someone talked them into committing said crimes is a good or a bad thing is a philosophical debate.
    It isn't a "philosophical debate". It's called the law, and the debate occurred a long-time ago and if you want to allow the government to entrap people, let us know. You approve of entrapment, the law does not. Feel to get entrapment approved as an appropriate use of government resources. Scratch a leftist, find a fascist.
    It is the law, for the most part, today. It has not been the law for most of this country's history. It is very much a philosophical debate whether and when the defense should apply. Your suggestion to the contrary hints at your mental decline.

    But your sympathies for mouth breathing militia types who play soldier and plot felonies in the woods is noted.

    I have no problem with the verdict. The suggestible creatures acquitted are your base.
    Unlike the fascist blue governors and the dementia patient that aren't playing in the woods but are actively destroying American lives. Playing in the woods isnt' costing me a dime unlike your fascist base.
    So you endorse a defense which was rejected prior to the 20th Century.

    It's like you see a living, breathing Constitution or something.
    Is that the Russian state narrative we’ve been waiting for? Or do you actually have something to contribute?

  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,872

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    OJ was acquitted.

    It's okay for the jury to say it wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, even if they were guilty.

    That's our system.

    In other words, H still believes they're guilty and it wasn't a load of shit from the get-go. Got it.
    "Entrapment" means you did it. Whether allowing people to excuse their crimes on the basis that someone talked them into committing said crimes is a good or a bad thing is a philosophical debate.
    It isn't a "philosophical debate". It's called the law, and the debate occurred a long-time ago and if you want to allow the government to entrap people, let us know. You approve of entrapment, the law does not. Feel to get entrapment approved as an appropriate use of government resources. Scratch a leftist, find a fascist.
    It is the law, for the most part, today. It has not been the law for most of this country's history. It is very much a philosophical debate whether and when the defense should apply. Your suggestion to the contrary hints at your mental decline.

    But your sympathies for mouth breathing militia types who play soldier and plot felonies in the woods is noted.

    I have no problem with the verdict. The suggestible creatures acquitted are your base.
    Unlike the fascist blue governors and the dementia patient that aren't playing in the woods but are actively destroying American lives. Playing in the woods isnt' costing me a dime unlike your fascist base.
    So you endorse a defense which was rejected prior to the 20th Century.

    It's like you see a living, breathing Constitution or something.
    Unlike you, I actually went to law school and learned about these things called state statutes which under the state constitutions have been based by the legislature and signed into law by the governor. You suck at this.

    ORS 161.275
    Entrapment
    TEXT

    (1)The commission of acts which would otherwise constitute an offense is not criminal if the actor engaged in the proscribed conduct because the actor was induced to do so by a law enforcement official, or by a person acting in cooperation with a law enforcement official, for the purpose of obtaining evidence to be used against the actor in a criminal prosecution.

    (2)As used in this section, “induced” means that the actor did not contemplate and would not otherwise have engaged in the proscribed conduct. Merely affording the actor an opportunity to commit an offense does not constitute entrapment. [1971 c.743 §35]
    Legislatures can codify it, of course. However, the defense first arose in caselaw. You know, "judicial activism".
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,233
    Dazzler is totally in favor or entrapment, but if far too ethical to ever pad his legal bills, trust him.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,872
    edited April 2022
    SFGbob said:

    Dazzler is totally in favor or entrapment, but if far too ethical to ever pad his legal bills, trust him.

    The pro-pedophile lobby weighs in. blob's a perv.

    https://www.casebriefs.com/blog/law/criminal-procedure/criminal-procedure-keyed-to-israel/police-encouragement-and-the-defense-of-entrapment/jacobson-v-united-states-2/?msclkid=3cd45c45b84611eca337ddc9e7ea7f50
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,828 Swaye's Wigwam

    Hilarious. The Ls keep coming

    When you push everything so hard all day then people eventually get mad when it doesn't come to fruition and dont trust you.

    THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN

    You think this will prevent the echo chamber from repeating it?

    Fine people
    Kyle Rittenhouse
    Russian Collusion

    The facts don't matter, just the narrative.
    Bump for H "hands up don't shoot".
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,872

    In other words, H believes they are guilty despite being acquitted.

    You know, in contrast to the burden of evidence he desires for the Biden corruption case.

    You do know an entrapment defense means they admit they did what they were accused of, right?

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