I can't decide between Sark and Lambo. They both sucked.
Lambo had a Pac-10 championship. Sark's best year was 5-4 in conference.
True. OTOH, while Sark didn't take over the owen12 debacle that doog folklore likes to say he did, he didn't take over a a program coming off of 3 straight Rose Bowels with clearly established dominance in the northwest and most of the west coast either. Lambo inherited a sweetheart opportunity and never did better than splitting a conference title in six years.
I put Lambo slightly ahead of Sark, but I see the argument. They have a ton in common, right down to the PLSS love.
I can't decide between Sark and Lambo. They both sucked.
Lambo had a Pac-10 championship. Sark's best year was 5-4 in conference.
Lambo did less with more. That 1996 and 1997 team's that tied for a pac 10 title and lost the holiday bowl and Aloha bowls were he most talented team of the last 20 years. And Lambo stumbled into 7 and 9 wins.
I can't decide between Sark and Lambo. They both sucked.
Lambo had a Pac-10 championship. Sark's best year was 5-4 in conference.
Lambo did less with more. That 1996 and 1997 team's that tied for a pac 10 title and lost the holiday bowl and Aloha bowls were he most talented team of the last 20 years. And Lambo stumbled into 7 and 9 wins.
It was the 95 Sun Bowl team that won the Pac-10. Now let's never talk about 95 again.
Also, the argument that Lambo did less with more is true, but you could say the same for Sark, especially when you consider a team that had Locker, Polk, Kearse, Ta'amu, DTN, Bulter, Foster, and Trufant had a losing record.
I can't decide between Sark and Lambo. They both sucked.
Lambo had a Pac-10 championship. Sark's best year was 5-4 in conference.
Lambo did less with more. That 1996 and 1997 team's that tied for a pac 10 title and lost the holiday bowl and Aloha bowls were he most talented team of the last 20 years. And Lambo stumbled into 7 and 9 wins.
It was the 95 Sun Bowl team that won the Pac-10. Now let's never talk about 95 again.
Also, the argument that Lambo did less with more is true, but you could say the same for Sark, especially when you consider a team that had Locker, Polk, Kearse, Ta'amu, DTN, Bulter, Foster, and Trufant had a losing record.
In hindsight, the 2009 team could have won more games. I still think that was Sark's best year coaching though. It was his best year recruiting too. 7 OL and 5 DL, a top 20 class, even after 0-12. He didn't improve at all after that year. That's the troubling part, and why he sucked. The learning on the job stuff is bullshit, especially when it comes to on field coaching.
The 2009 team should have won 5-6 games. The definitely should have beat Notre Dame and UCLA. ASU was another winnable game, and Sark's play calling was terrible on the last drive. Letting a guy get behind you is unforgivable as well, but the game was going into OT if ASU didn't complete that pass, so you can't count that as a game that should have been won. It was a horribly coached game though.
On the flip side, the Arizona game was lucky, Cal completey laid down to close out the season, and USC would have won if anyone but Aaron Corp started the game at QB. 5-7 was a pretty good indicator of the talent on the team. There were some very good players, but there were also players in the lineup that had no business being Pac 10 starters. Darrion Jones and Talia Crichton rotated at one DE spot. The secondary consisted of Trufant (FR), Richardson, Long, Nate Williams, Fellner/Glenn. That's a bad secondary, bordering on dreckfest. The OL had Ossai, Greg Christine, Nick Wood, and a freshman Drew Schaeffer. It was a far better team than doogs like to admit (we all know it wasn't a true 0-12 team), but it also wasn't all that great.
Lambo did about average with the talent they had in '95 and '96, with two embarrassing loses (Sun Bowel va. Iowa and '96 ND). Average doesn't mean he did well, it only means they didn't massively underachieve.
The other four years he underachieved. I remember Rondeau making excuses for him after the '93 season (hi Chest!). He said it was a 7-8 win team. Even as a teen I wasn't buying it.
Anyway, it's Bitchcunt Babs' fault for keeping the loyal ass't around too long.
Sark had two acceptable, yet not great years to begin, then stalled out. I give him the slight edge for leaving the program with eight wins.
Lambo did about average with the talent they had in '95 and '96, with two embarrassing loses (Sun Bowel va. Iowa and '96 ND). Average doesn't mean he did well, it only means they didn't massively underachieve.
The other four years he underachieved. I remember Rondeau making excuses for him after the '93 season (hi Chest!). He said it was a 7-8 win team. Even as a teen I wasn't buying it.
Anyway, it's Bitchcunt Babs' fault for keeping the loyal ass't around too long.
Sark had two acceptable, yet not great years to begin, then stalled out. I give him the slight edge for leaving the program with eight wins.
Even though I'm a Duck fan, I lived in Seattle during those years (lots of places to park my seaplane) and some of my good friends were Husky season ticket holders.
The story I heard was that Babs didn't like Lambo, and refused to give him the budget he wanted to hire the assistants he wanted to hire. He was forced to field a team with great talent, but mediocre assistant coaches.
Lambo did about average with the talent they had in '95 and '96, with two embarrassing loses (Sun Bowel va. Iowa and '96 ND). Average doesn't mean he did well, it only means they didn't massively underachieve.
The other four years he underachieved. I remember Rondeau making excuses for him after the '93 season (hi Chest!). He said it was a 7-8 win team. Even as a teen I wasn't buying it.
Anyway, it's Bitchcunt Babs' fault for keeping the loyal ass't around too long.
Sark had two acceptable, yet not great years to begin, then stalled out. I give him the slight edge for leaving the program with eight wins.
Even though I'm a Duck fan, I lived in Seattle during those years (lots of places to park my seaplane) and some of my good friends were Husky season ticket holders.
The story I heard was that Babs didn't like Lambo, and refused to give him the budget he wanted to hire the assistants he wanted to hire. He was forced to field a team with great talent, but mediocre assistant coaches.
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BTW, it was first published in 2005. ........SUCK IT!!!!! Who's the master now???!?!?!?!?!!1!1
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Lambo
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And no, not going to LIFPO with Peterman. He doesn't have to be as good as I think he is in order to be the best coach we've had since the REAL DJ.
I put Lambo slightly ahead of Sark, but I see the argument. They have a ton in common, right down to the PLSS love.
Also, the argument that Lambo did less with more is true, but you could say the same for Sark, especially when you consider a team that had Locker, Polk, Kearse, Ta'amu, DTN, Bulter, Foster, and Trufant had a losing record.
The 2009 team should have won 5-6 games. The definitely should have beat Notre Dame and UCLA. ASU was another winnable game, and Sark's play calling was terrible on the last drive. Letting a guy get behind you is unforgivable as well, but the game was going into OT if ASU didn't complete that pass, so you can't count that as a game that should have been won. It was a horribly coached game though.
On the flip side, the Arizona game was lucky, Cal completey laid down to close out the season, and USC would have won if anyone but Aaron Corp started the game at QB. 5-7 was a pretty good indicator of the talent on the team. There were some very good players, but there were also players in the lineup that had no business being Pac 10 starters. Darrion Jones and Talia Crichton rotated at one DE spot. The secondary consisted of Trufant (FR), Richardson, Long, Nate Williams, Fellner/Glenn. That's a bad secondary, bordering on dreckfest. The OL had Ossai, Greg Christine, Nick Wood, and a freshman Drew Schaeffer. It was a far better team than doogs like to admit (we all know it wasn't a true 0-12 team), but it also wasn't all that great.
The other four years he underachieved. I remember Rondeau making excuses for him after the '93 season (hi Chest!). He said it was a 7-8 win team. Even as a teen I wasn't buying it.
Anyway, it's Bitchcunt Babs' fault for keeping the loyal ass't around too long.
Sark had two acceptable, yet not great years to begin, then stalled out. I give him the slight edge for leaving the program with eight wins.
The story I heard was that Babs didn't like Lambo, and refused to give him the budget he wanted to hire the assistants he wanted to hire. He was forced to field a team with great talent, but mediocre assistant coaches.
hth
And @dnc is correct. Petersen by what he has already done is the 2nd best. Now lets see if he can match or come close to what DJ achieved.