Sarks first class had an average rating of .814. It was epically bad. This class is .857. Trufant and Price were really the only players from the 2009 class that made a positive impact. Most burned out before ever seeing the field. This class will have more than two contribute positively to winning. I’m certain of it.
That is a pretty big difference. But I did read somewhere that recruiting scores have been gradually inflated since Sark's first year. Many more 3-5 star players now than there were over 10 years ago. Am I wrong?
Everyone is a three star. It’s hard to sign a guy that isn’t 3 star now.
I recognize Cricton, Trufant, Shamburger, Pulu, Price, and Johnson
Amazing. Thing is that Sark had a lot of time (no early signing date) and was coming from SC, where he should've had ins with a fair number of guys who were willing to consider following him. One wouldve thought there were at least a few feunge guys who SV receuited but didnt wnd up offering.
There was no excuse. He simply didn't recruit.
Not to defend Sark but we went 0-12. That doesn’t make it easy to recruit.
I recognize Cricton, Trufant, Shamburger, Pulu, Price, and Johnson
Amazing. Thing is that Sark had a lot of time (no early signing date) and was coming from SC, where he should've had ins with a fair number of guys who were willing to consider following him. One wouldve thought there were at least a few feunge guys who SV receuited but didnt wnd up offering.
There was no excuse. He simply didn't recruit.
Not to defend Sark but we went 0-12. That doesn’t make it easy to recruit.
I recognize Cricton, Trufant, Shamburger, Pulu, Price, and Johnson
Amazing. Thing is that Sark had a lot of time (no early signing date) and was coming from SC, where he should've had ins with a fair number of guys who were willing to consider following him. One wouldve thought there were at least a few feunge guys who SV receuited but didnt wnd up offering.
There was no excuse. He simply didn't recruit.
Not to defend Sark but we went 0-12. That doesn’t make it easy to recruit.
True.
2012 and definitely 2013 were also damning statements on Sarks recruiting at UW.
Sarks first class had an average rating of .814. It was epically bad. This class is .857. Trufant and Price were really the only players from the 2009 class that made a positive impact. Most burned out before ever seeing the field. This class will have more than two contribute positively to winning. I’m certain of it.
That is a pretty big difference. But I did read somewhere that recruiting scores have been gradually inflated since Sark's first year. Many more 3-5 star players now than there were over 10 years ago. Am I wrong?
Everyone is a three star. It’s hard to sign a guy that isn’t 3 star now.
This. The Parkers, Green, and King would all be 2 stars or unrated (0 star) in the old system so you can't really compare this class to Sark's by looking at the avg rating. In fact, i think a player automatically gets 3 stars if they are offered by a d1 program. Most of Sark's lowest rated recruits from the 09 class had better offers than the guys DeBoer got (other than Dunn)
I've tried to listen to all you TBS haters (read: @RoadDawg55) and trust your "forget stars, look who else offered them" rationale. I know DeBoner had a mess to clean, but taking dudes with offers from Grand Valley State and Bucknell and whiffing on Vega is a black mark.
I know, I know LIPO. What other choice do we have? We're staring up from the bottom of the dumpster.
I've tried to listen to all you TBS haters (read: @RoadDawg55) and trust your "forget stars, look who else offered them" rationale. I know DeBoner had a mess to clean, but taking dudes with offers from Grand Valley State and Bucknell and whiffing on Vega is a black mark.
I know, I know LIPO. What other choice do we have? We're staring up from the bottom of the dumpster.
The difference between hiring Lincoln and DeBoer is becoming more obvious each day
Go cheap get cheap
We have no choice but to hope he can coach them up and coach on gameday
I've tried to listen to all you TBS haters (read: @RoadDawg55) and trust your "forget stars, look who else offered them" rationale. I know DeBoner had a mess to clean, but taking dudes with offers from Grand Valley State and Bucknell and whiffing on Vega is a black mark.
I know, I know LIPO. What other choice do we have? We're staring up from the bottom of the dumpster.
The difference between hiring Lincoln and DeBoer is becoming more obvious each day
Go cheap get cheap
We have no choice but to hope he can coach them up and coach on gameday
Good thing we were young at most positions last year. Should have our 2 deeps mostly set for the next couple years... Deboer has a full cupboard to work with which is more than could be said about what Sark had.
Dawgs have a good year next year we should get back on the recruiting train a bit better.
Good thing we were young at most positions last year. Should have our 2 deeps mostly set for the next couple years... Deboer has a full cupboard to work with which is more than could be said about what Sark had.
Dawgs have a good year next year we should get back on the recruiting train a bit better.
Good thing we were young at most positions last year. Should have our 2 deeps mostly set for the next couple years... Deboer has a full cupboard to work with which is more than could be said about what Sark had.
Dawgs have a good year next year we should get back on the recruiting train a bit better.
Sark had 9 future NFL players on his first roster
A top-heavy team with very little depth behind the talent.
I've tried to listen to all you TBS haters (read: @RoadDawg55) and trust your "forget stars, look who else offered them" rationale. I know DeBoner had a mess to clean, but taking dudes with offers from Grand Valley State and Bucknell and whiffing on Vega is a black mark.
I know, I know LIPO. What other choice do we have? We're staring up from the bottom of the dumpster.
Yeah, it’s not a good class. I don’t mind the twins tho. DeBoer really likes them. Dunn is good. Holtzclaw and Otton are also good. Otton will at minimum be a solid starter at TE.
Hopefully Fresno State has a few young players that develop and we can call them up to the big leagues.
I know how important recruiting is, but we get soft highly touted guys. I miss Washington dammit! We need good, tough football players with a couple elite ones mixed in. And we need a great QB.
I like the staff because they do seem to be no bullshit guys. I do think they get it but you are right, without the players, we will max out at 8-9 wins.
We can get any player that commits to Oregon State, WSU, MWC, and the WAC. I never understood why UW and other more prominent teams don’t have multiple staff members poaching any recruit worth a shit from them. That’s what I mean by evaluate better. The recruits are out there. Find them and get them. And don’t twist this and think I want a roster full of these type of recruits.
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In this case it's true
2012 and definitely 2013 were also damning statements on Sarks recruiting at UW.
I've tried to listen to all you TBS haters (read: @RoadDawg55) and trust your "forget stars, look who else offered them" rationale. I know DeBoner had a mess to clean, but taking dudes with offers from Grand Valley State and Bucknell and whiffing on Vega is a black mark.
I know, I know LIPO. What other choice do we have? We're staring up from the bottom of the dumpster.
Go cheap get cheap
We have no choice but to hope he can coach them up and coach on gameday
And hope isn't a strategy
Dawgs have a good year next year we should get back on the recruiting train a bit better.
No.
Hence my reference to 2 deeps.
Hopefully Fresno State has a few young players that develop and we can call them up to the big leagues.
I know how important recruiting is, but we get soft highly touted guys. I miss Washington dammit! We need good, tough football players with a couple elite ones mixed in. And we need a great QB.
I like the staff because they do seem to be no bullshit guys. I do think they get it but you are right, without the players, we will max out at 8-9 wins.
We can get any player that commits to Oregon State, WSU, MWC, and the WAC. I never understood why UW and other more prominent teams don’t have multiple staff members poaching any recruit worth a shit from them. That’s what I mean by evaluate better. The recruits are out there. Find them and get them. And don’t twist this and think I want a roster full of these type of recruits.