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Is this the worst class of the last 20 years?

SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,062
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Looks like it to me. I didn't look tbh.


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    JoeEDangerouslyJoeEDangerously Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,129
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    Sarks first was really bad
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    bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 14,901
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    JoeEDangerously said:

    Sarks first was really bad

    This is probably on par with Sark's first class.
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    Mad_SonMad_Son Member Posts: 10,091
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    How was Pete's first class received on signing day? I truly don't recall, but I'm optimistic that we hated it at the time and look back on it more fondly now because his talent evaluation was superior to the general populace so the presumed scrubs were studs.
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    whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,439
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    bananasnblondes said:

    JoeEDangerously said:

    Sarks first was really bad

    This is probably on par with Sark's first class.
    Sark's first class had Trufant and Price, so we'll need to see at least 2 major contributors for this to be on par with that class.

    But that depends if we're counting transfers or 10* commits (like ZTF)
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    WoolleyDoogWoolleyDoog Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,496
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    I'm glad we're asking this question again. I guess I'm giving the staff a pass on this one but it's not encouraging. Gilby's second class was abysmal too.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,304
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    WoolleyDoog said:

    I'm glad we're asking this question again. I guess I'm giving the staff a pass on this one but it's not encouraging. Gilby's second class was abysmal too.

    No one could answer the tough questions
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,062
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    So in the top three worst classes of the last 20 years, but not the absolute worst. Good deal. Nowhere to go but up. Or the trash can.
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    theknowledgetheknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,568
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    Swaye said:

    So in the top three worst classes of the last 20 years, but not the absolute worst. Good deal. Nowhere to go but up. Or the trash can.

    Calm yourself my native brother. Pete’s class outside of flipping Buddha and snagging McGary was panned around here for its predominant MWC flavor. On a whole the average rating per player was lower than Boners first class. Otton is a stud and I really like Dunn. Some high end contributors came out of that 2014 class. At least two, probably three years until we can decide if we hate these guys or not.
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,062
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    theknowledge said:

    Swaye said:

    So in the top three worst classes of the last 20 years, but not the absolute worst. Good deal. Nowhere to go but up. Or the trash can.

    Calm yourself my native brother. Pete’s class outside of flipping Buddha and snagging McGary was panned around here for its predominant MWC flavor. On a whole the average rating per player was lower than Boners first class. Otton is a stud and I really like Dunn. Some high end contributors came out of that 2014 class. At least two, probably three years until we can decide if we hate these guys or not.
    I just assume I will hate them until I don't.
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,278
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    theknowledge said:

    Sarks first class had an average rating of .814. It was epically bad. This class is .857. Trufant and Price were really the only players from the 2009 class that made a positive impact. Most burned out before ever seeing the field. This class will have more than two contribute positively to winning. I’m certain of it.

    That is a pretty big difference. But I did read somewhere that recruiting scores have been gradually inflated since Sark's first year. Many more 3-5 star players now than there were over 10 years ago. Am I wrong?
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    chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,614
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    Swaye said:

    So in the top three worst classes of the last 20 years, but not the absolute worst. Good deal. Nowhere to go but up. Or the trash can.

    Even that isn't guaranteed yet. Top five worst is pretty likely, but Sark had at least one class in the conversation beside his first, and Ty had at least two. RNs 7 WR class could be right there too.

    Still pretty grim. Tallest midget is about the best we can hope for in terms of class quality.
    Mad_Son said:

    How was Pete's first class received on signing day? I truly don't recall, but I'm optimistic that we hated it at the time and look back on it more fondly now because his talent evaluation was superior to the general populace so the presumed scrubs were studs.

    Mad_Son said:

    How was Pete's first class received on signing day? I truly don't recall, but I'm optimistic that we hated it at the time and look back on it more fondly now because his talent evaluation was superior to the general populace so the presumed scrubs were studs.

    A mix of LIPO and customary HH doom and gloom. Most were only looking at the surface, snagging guys from the Mtn West, and mocked it. Some of us were pretty impressed with several of the lesser rated guys like Gaines, Jones, and Pettis and weren't surprised when the class graded out well in retrospect.
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    PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 24,543
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    This staff took a bunch of 2 and 0 stars and made Fresneck belong against the Pac 12

    Lipo
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    chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,614
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    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    This staff took a bunch of 2 and 0 stars and made Fresneck belong against the Pac 12

    Lipo

    Which doesn't mean that will keep being the primary recruiting pool. It's obvious they are swinging big for the upcoming classes. We'll get to judge whether they can get those guys in a few months.
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    LebamDawgLebamDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,541
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    Here is Sark's full class and Scout's ranking



    Batts
    Fellner
    Barnett
    Crichton
    Tucker
    Trufant
    Tivao
    Mafoe
    Shamburger
    Tokolahi
    Makaula
    Pulu
    Gaisie
    Mahan
    Boyce
    Wallace
    Robinson (Chris not Nate)
    Price
    Johnson

    I recognize Cricton, Trufant, Shamburger, Pulu, Price, and Johnson
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    chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,614
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    LebamDawg said:

    Here is Sark's full class and Scout's ranking



    Batts
    Fellner
    Barnett
    Crichton
    Tucker
    Trufant
    Tivao
    Mafoe
    Shamburger
    Tokolahi
    Makaula
    Pulu
    Gaisie
    Mahan
    Boyce
    Wallace
    Robinson (Chris not Nate)
    Price
    Johnson

    I recognize Cricton, Trufant, Shamburger, Pulu, Price, and Johnson

    Amazing. Thing is that Sark had a lot of time (no early signing date) and was coming from SC, where he should've had ins with a fair number of guys who were willing to consider following him. One wouldve thought there were at least a few feunge guys who SV receuited but didnt wnd up offering.

    There was no excuse. He simply didn't recruit.
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    theknowledgetheknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,568
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    Didn’t Pulu curb stomp a kid and end up at Eastern?
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    TXDawgTXDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 818
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    If you think this class is bad, wait until next year.
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