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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd be supportive of UW ending football. The E1 lot is already going to be developed into buildings. Use the stadium for concerts and Stadium Cross races. Or a pea patch. If there was ever a chance to kill it, it's now
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    ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,515
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    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
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    theknowledgetheknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,572
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    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    OK!
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    ntxduckntxduck Member Posts: 5,515
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    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception
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    RTDRTD Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 784
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    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    In the 80’s UW cost $400 a quarter for in state. It pays to be old.

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    Kingdome_UrinalsKingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,606
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    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
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    UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,257
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    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
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    TheHBTheHB Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,337
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    Who’s Roi?

    Dunno but he seems to be positive.
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    Kingdome_UrinalsKingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,606
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    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
    Less and less dipshit. Do you ever watch the news? College is expensive, hth.
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    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
    Less and less dipshit. Do you ever watch the news? College is expensive, hth.
    College is expensive? Why is that?

    Thanks for proving my point btw.
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    Kingdome_UrinalsKingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,606
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    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
    Less and less dipshit. Do you ever watch the news? College is expensive, hth.
    College is expensive? Why is that?

    Thanks for proving my point btw.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=why+is+college+so+expensive&oq=why+is+college+&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i512l9.5490j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    I'm pretty busy today. Check this out.
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    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
    Less and less dipshit. Do you ever watch the news? College is expensive, hth.
    College is expensive? Why is that?

    Thanks for proving my point btw.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=why+is+college+so+expensive&oq=why+is+college+&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i512l9.5490j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    I'm pretty busy today. Check this out.
    Weird that people continue to make poor financial choices on a diminishing value proposition.

    Again, thanks for supporting my point.

    P.s. you sound poor
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    I bet the replacement would be the offensive qa control they just hired. At first I was thinking DeBoer was just hiring who he was comfortable with. I think Jen is just trying to do it on the cheap though the this plays out.

    I hope not. Doogs are also calling for Jermaine Kearse to be named WR coach. Either convince Kirby to come up or poach the Arizona guy. We should be done with the analyst - on field coach promotion after last year
    I’m not as against hiring Kearse as you are. He’s got a few things in his corner that I like. Local guy, played at UW, played in the NFL. Assuming he can sell and is willing to cater to teen bois on an obsessive level I’d be happier with JK than a GA. He’s at minimum third for me behind Moore and Cummings.
    Honestly, if Hartline can be as good as he is at OSU, maybe Kearse could do something here. Yeah, we aren't tOSU, I know. No clue what Hartline's background is beyond playing WR.
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    ntxduck said:

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    Yes, because that’s the only alternative and not the exception

    ntxduck said:

    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    Whatever you got to tell yourself to not face the reality of earlier poor decisions, man
    I'm sure he would have been better off taking out $100k of debt to major in gender studies.
    What percentage of US undergraduates major in gender studies? Do you think it is more than 1%? Doubt it.
    What % of graduates have a positive roi on their tuition and giving up 4 years of a career.

    What's the opportunity cost for those intelligent enough to have a positive roi?

    I'll wait.
    Go ahead and just give us the cliff notes version instead of asking these dumb vagueries.

    There's countless ways to measure ROI of a college degree. While my impression is that it's still positive despite admin bloat run amok, these comparisons are largely meaningless since we're talking about a counter-factual for each individual person. As always, YMMV.

    So let's just skip the bullshit back and forth and you tell us why college is a scam.
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    Emoterman said:

    People forget that colleges are under no legal obligation to provide a football program

    Just a few more tweaks and its dead for good

    The emotional attachment of a 150 year tradition and people's love of Alma Mater U doesn't translate to the Montlake Junior Seahawks

    The players will never get better pay than they get now over and under the table

    And I've been told a college education is valuable except when it isn't I guess

    I'd have loved a free education. I made my own business decision at 19 and decided 100's of thousands of debt wasn't a good plan for me.

    Yup, thats me. Stacking laundry soap. I also have a healthy 410K, I bought a house and property with a pretty cheap mortgage, paid in cash for the build of another house on my property that my mom retired in and outside of my mortgage I have no debt. I'm certainly not rich but after being a drunk and a coke head for my early adulthood I haven't been entirely stupid with what money I did make. You don't need to go to college if you're not ashamed of stacking cans, digging ditches, building fences, pouring drinks or shoveling shit for a living. All of which I've done at one point or another. Someone's got to do it. Maybe Biden will come through like he said and get that debt off your record. I don't have that problem. I know, take it to the Pump.
    I have an UW education, so that should tell you enough about the worth of that paper. You did not miss out lolz
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