The Soccer Mom SUV Thread
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American vehicles mostly are overpriced garbage...even after the government bailed out the US auto industry (GM, Chrysler) in 2008. US auto makers have no incentive to make better vehicles because the government will bail them out if needed.HFNY said:Buy American, please. At the very least, buy a foreign brand that is made by your fellow Americans somewhere in our beautiful country.
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In the process of grinding my Highlander into dust…265K on it, and I have been very happy with it. Mrs. Fish is the car person in the family, and she “selected” it for the ride, which is very comfy and quiet. She is currently researching compact SUV for replacement, since our daughters are not currently real big on giving us grandkids to haul around, and I have long since tired of hauling shit for people.
I’d be perfectly happy with something used, (having turned into a borderline minimalist in my advancing age) but the prices are ridiculous right now, as we all know…, -
You need to take the Dodge to Mako. The paint needs a touch up.UW_Doog_Bot said:Wife has a 2018 Highlander. Very happy with it overall but we also don't actually have "weather" down here.
My mom has the Audi crossover and she loves it. Too small for a family car for us but more than good enough for the days where she picks up my kids.
I'm still rolling my shitty Dodge Dakota but at this point there's so much I've replaced on it myself I'm not real worried about it. It's good for offroading and beating the shit out of without worrying about scratching the paint. After dropping the pan and being able to replace a large part of the trans for $200 the wife has finally come around on why I value having a vehicle that I can work on myself and easily get parts for. -
The knock on the Sequoia in the reviews is the same at the 4 Runner. The interior is long in the tooth. This isn't something I couldn't give two shits over personally speaking.BleachedAnusDawg said:Not sure about the Sequioa, but you couldn't pay me to drive a Highlander or 4-Runner because the interiors are so long in the tooth. I believe most Toyota SUV models in 2022 or 2023 are finally being updated, but that 4-Runner has been the same car for 12+ years now.
We're on the wait-list for a Telluride SX. Yep, a fuckin' Kia that has won basically every Best Of award for 3 years running and had a wait-list before the chip crunch hit and wait lists became cool. CX-9, Explorer, Highlander, etc all had much less cargo space with three rows up, and the third row in each of those is too small.
If I had my druthers and the cash I would've stuck the Mrs. in a Durango Hellcat. Sucky interior and it's a Dodge, but it has 3-rows and 797 horsepower.
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Bought the wife a 3 yr old Pilot. Great fucking car, tons of room, fits up to 8 if necessary. Put both kids through HS and dozens of soccer tournaments all over the PNW.
Yakima/Thule box on top and ski trips are a breeze. Fast, reliable, great mileage, very fast 0 to 60, great visibility, good stereo, fucking thing goes anywhere and everything works. All I've done is change the oil, filters and changed the plugs once.
Also found a handful of my son's Trojan wrappers behind the back seat, so it's good for that, too. Great family car, indeed. -
I think this fear is blown out of proportion. In a lot of ways, it's been a long time since car repair at home has been as accessible. To me, the absolute worst time period for working in an engine bay was the late eighties/early nineties: crammed in and absolutely smothered in a spaghetti noodle pile of vacuum hoses and wiring harness to make carburetors and early primitive fuel injection systems meet new emissions standards. Nowadays, a well designed vehicle can be pretty simple to work on with basic tools and a $10 code reader. Computer diagnostics (coupled with trouble code help from good ol' Google), easily unplugged sensors, etc., make things easy to diagnose and repair.Swaye said:I have always advocated keeping at least one vehicle around that you can still wrench on in a garage without 50K worth of diagnostics equipment and specialty tools. Everything bought from the early 90's on except some basic Jeeps and trucks are going to be paperweights after the Zombie apocalypse.
I had an E46 BMW that was the most brilliant car I've ever worked on. Fuel pump swap was ten minutes. Water pump was a half hour and a half dozen common tools. VANOS seals was an afternoon (stock photo):
Only thing I've needed special tools for is F150 spark plug removal, but I guess I already have a lot of tools.
I'll believe you're club president when I hear you say the name with the proper number of syllables...Swaye said:As the self-appointed President of the HH Porsche fan club you now have my complete attention.
Speaking of Porsches, I flipped a CRX end over end a few times when I was 20. Used the insurance money from that to buy a Porsche 931 (which is the less embarrassing way to say "924 Turbo") that I spotted with a for sale sign in the window. Fucking loved that car. That was the car that really started me down the road of turning my own wrenches, as I found out that if you take one to a Porsche dealer, they turn their nose up and say it's not worth their time. Swapped out the camshaft, followers, and fuel distributor on the side of the road next to the Porsche dealer in Tucson because those dicks wouldn't even let me do the repair on their property after telling me they wouldn't touch the car themselves. At least the VW mechanics were cool enough to help me push it out of the lot and onto the road... -
I prefer taking it to the mojave and putting another layer of dust on it.YellowSnow said:
You need to take the Dodge to Mako. The paint needs a touch up.UW_Doog_Bot said:Wife has a 2018 Highlander. Very happy with it overall but we also don't actually have "weather" down here.
My mom has the Audi crossover and she loves it. Too small for a family car for us but more than good enough for the days where she picks up my kids.
I'm still rolling my shitty Dodge Dakota but at this point there's so much I've replaced on it myself I'm not real worried about it. It's good for offroading and beating the shit out of without worrying about scratching the paint. After dropping the pan and being able to replace a large part of the trans for $200 the wife has finally come around on why I value having a vehicle that I can work on myself and easily get parts for.
Plus, having a shitty looking truck helps prevent breakins which we get more and more of spilling over from LA county. -
As to the OP, the thread title literally says "soccer mom." If it can't do this...

...or this...
...it's not doing it right. -
Soccer mom's largely don't drive minivans. They're the most practical vehicle for a family, and also completely dorky. Tried to convince my beard to get one and she will not be caught dead driving one.
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I know, I was kidding. And I know exactly what you're talking about. I have a brother and at least four friends who REALLY want one. In every case, it's the wife putting the foot down. Marketing has convinced them that they'll immediately become less sexually attractive and independent if they get behind the wheel of a minivan.BleachedAnusDawg said:Soccer mom's largely don't drive minivans. They're the most practical vehicle for a family, and also completely dorky. Tried to convince my beard to get one and she will not be caught dead driving one.
The reality that escapes them is that they already got less sexually attractive and independent when they had kids and got fat, so they might as well drive something that makes their lives easier...






