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  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 3,022
    Matt Campbell… he was holding out for this job
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,439 Founders Club
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    Dan Mullins

    They just had his Miss State replacement at OC, I'm not sure they try that again.
  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    edited December 2021
    46XiJCAB said:

    Swaye said:

    chuck said:

    Gladstone said:

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.


    My fear is that Wilcox, as an alum, could end up the type who's there for 20 years.
    Yes, as a Junction City kid and UO alum, he probably seems appealing from a "we're a stepping stone school" perspective

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.


    It might not be lightning in a bottle right away but he's going to bring stability and might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine.
    This is a bunch of platitude nonsense that doesn't mean anything. Bringing "stability" means nothing unless you're a good coach. This is one of those buzzwords on Twitter people throw out to try and sound smart. What does 'might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine' mean? How do you qualify this? Gibberish.

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.

    Oregon has a culture problem imo and Wilcox could very well be the type to fix it, or at least add a little substance to their charade.

    What does this mean? Culture problem of good recruiting? Hiring good coaches? What substance to what charade? This entire post feels like it was written by a ML algorithm that doesn't quite understand the training data yet

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.

    He will have the tools to do it. I could see him becoming Oregon's Whittingham. Not saying this will for sure happen by any means but I think it's a decent possibility that he's exactly what Oregon needs.
    Can you name literally any metric outside of "has ties to the physical area" that says Wilcox could be their Whittingham? Literally every sentence you typed is brutal wharrgarble nonsense.


    Glad to see that my dog isn't the only one dumb enough to try fighting high volume sprinklers. There's also the one pictured, and @CallMeBigErn
    I prefer revolving door Oregon coaching. In fact, I love it. You don't see it that way and that's cool, Chuck. That's cool.
    You were just stating that hiring Wilcox would bring 20 years of stability to Oregon.
    Bro, did you read the context? I'm saying there's a part of me that thinks that he could be the type to do so. Not saying he will ffs. I don't consider my opinion to be fact unlike some here. I'm raising the point that he could be good for Oregon as devil's advocate. Chill.
    He actually could be. I don't think it's a high probability, but I see your main point. I mean there are mega resources there, and if he could luck into or find a really quality innovative offensive mind he could maybe do some damage there. I'd have hated him at UW, but there is a different dynamic there.

    The one thing that would worry me as a Duck fan (and you alluded to this arguing the other way though) is his "stable" (read that as boring) type mentality. Oregon has always been loud, garish and new money rich. It's a huge part of their persona. That is not Wilcox. So I appreciate you thinking he might "fix" that in a sense, but I think fixing it would break them. It's a 2nd tier school in a shithole town. What makes them get top 10 recruiting classes is the new money swagger.

    Just my thoughts. On balance, I hope like fuck UO hires Wilcocks because I think there is a 10% chance or less he kills it. But there is a chance.
    He’s Mario 2.0 w/o the recruiting. Absolute wrong choice which is why Mullins will hire him.
    Oregon recruits itself at this point whether we like it or not. And the staff does most of the dirty work and there's no world where Oregon wouldn't shell out big bucks for assistants. Pretty sure Wilcox would still pull in top 15 classes. He would out-recruit DeBoer right now. The fact that Eugene is a rest stop doesn't matter. It's all Phil and Nike.
  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    dnc said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Swaye said:

    chuck said:

    Gladstone said:

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.


    My fear is that Wilcox, as an alum, could end up the type who's there for 20 years.
    Yes, as a Junction City kid and UO alum, he probably seems appealing from a "we're a stepping stone school" perspective

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.


    It might not be lightning in a bottle right away but he's going to bring stability and might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine.
    This is a bunch of platitude nonsense that doesn't mean anything. Bringing "stability" means nothing unless you're a good coach. This is one of those buzzwords on Twitter people throw out to try and sound smart. What does 'might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine' mean? How do you qualify this? Gibberish.

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.

    Oregon has a culture problem imo and Wilcox could very well be the type to fix it, or at least add a little substance to their charade.

    What does this mean? Culture problem of good recruiting? Hiring good coaches? What substance to what charade? This entire post feels like it was written by a ML algorithm that doesn't quite understand the training data yet

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.

    He will have the tools to do it. I could see him becoming Oregon's Whittingham. Not saying this will for sure happen by any means but I think it's a decent possibility that he's exactly what Oregon needs.
    Can you name literally any metric outside of "has ties to the physical area" that says Wilcox could be their Whittingham? Literally every sentence you typed is brutal wharrgarble nonsense.


    Glad to see that my dog isn't the only one dumb enough to try fighting high volume sprinklers. There's also the one pictured, and @CallMeBigErn
    I prefer revolving door Oregon coaching. In fact, I love it. You don't see it that way and that's cool, Chuck. That's cool.
    You were just stating that hiring Wilcox would bring 20 years of stability to Oregon.
    Bro, did you read the context? I'm saying there's a part of me that thinks that he could be the type to do so. Not saying he will ffs. I don't consider my opinion to be fact unlike some here. I'm raising the point that he could be good for Oregon as devil's advocate. Chill.
    He actually could be. I don't think it's a high probability, but I see your main point. I mean there are mega resources there, and if he could luck into or find a really quality innovative offensive mind he could maybe do some damage there. I'd have hated him at UW, but there is a different dynamic there.

    The one thing that would worry me as a Duck fan (and you alluded to this arguing the other way though) is his "stable" (read that as boring) type mentality. Oregon has always been loud, garish and new money rich. It's a huge part of their persona. That is not Wilcox. So I appreciate you thinking he might "fix" that in a sense, but I think fixing it would break them. It's a 2nd tier school in a shithole town. What makes them get top 10 recruiting classes is the new money swagger.

    Just my thoughts. On balance, I hope like fuck UO hires Wilcocks because I think there is a 10% chance or less he kills it. But there is a chance.
    He’s Mario 2.0 w/o the recruiting. Absolute wrong choice which is why Mullins will hire him.
    Oregon recruits itself at this point whether we like it or not. And the staff does most of the dirty work and there's no world where Oregon wouldn't shell out big bucks for assistants. Pretty sure Wilcox would still pull in top 15 classes. He would out-recruit DeBoer right now. The fact that Eugene is a rest stop doesn't matter. It's all Phil and Nike.
    It didn't recruit itself under Helfrich.
    NIL wasn't around with Slingblade.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,424 Founders Club

    dnc said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Swaye said:

    chuck said:

    Gladstone said:

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.


    My fear is that Wilcox, as an alum, could end up the type who's there for 20 years.
    Yes, as a Junction City kid and UO alum, he probably seems appealing from a "we're a stepping stone school" perspective

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.


    It might not be lightning in a bottle right away but he's going to bring stability and might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine.
    This is a bunch of platitude nonsense that doesn't mean anything. Bringing "stability" means nothing unless you're a good coach. This is one of those buzzwords on Twitter people throw out to try and sound smart. What does 'might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine' mean? How do you qualify this? Gibberish.

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.

    Oregon has a culture problem imo and Wilcox could very well be the type to fix it, or at least add a little substance to their charade.

    What does this mean? Culture problem of good recruiting? Hiring good coaches? What substance to what charade? This entire post feels like it was written by a ML algorithm that doesn't quite understand the training data yet

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.

    He will have the tools to do it. I could see him becoming Oregon's Whittingham. Not saying this will for sure happen by any means but I think it's a decent possibility that he's exactly what Oregon needs.
    Can you name literally any metric outside of "has ties to the physical area" that says Wilcox could be their Whittingham? Literally every sentence you typed is brutal wharrgarble nonsense.


    Glad to see that my dog isn't the only one dumb enough to try fighting high volume sprinklers. There's also the one pictured, and @CallMeBigErn
    I prefer revolving door Oregon coaching. In fact, I love it. You don't see it that way and that's cool, Chuck. That's cool.
    You were just stating that hiring Wilcox would bring 20 years of stability to Oregon.
    Bro, did you read the context? I'm saying there's a part of me that thinks that he could be the type to do so. Not saying he will ffs. I don't consider my opinion to be fact unlike some here. I'm raising the point that he could be good for Oregon as devil's advocate. Chill.
    He actually could be. I don't think it's a high probability, but I see your main point. I mean there are mega resources there, and if he could luck into or find a really quality innovative offensive mind he could maybe do some damage there. I'd have hated him at UW, but there is a different dynamic there.

    The one thing that would worry me as a Duck fan (and you alluded to this arguing the other way though) is his "stable" (read that as boring) type mentality. Oregon has always been loud, garish and new money rich. It's a huge part of their persona. That is not Wilcox. So I appreciate you thinking he might "fix" that in a sense, but I think fixing it would break them. It's a 2nd tier school in a shithole town. What makes them get top 10 recruiting classes is the new money swagger.

    Just my thoughts. On balance, I hope like fuck UO hires Wilcocks because I think there is a 10% chance or less he kills it. But there is a chance.
    He’s Mario 2.0 w/o the recruiting. Absolute wrong choice which is why Mullins will hire him.
    Oregon recruits itself at this point whether we like it or not. And the staff does most of the dirty work and there's no world where Oregon wouldn't shell out big bucks for assistants. Pretty sure Wilcox would still pull in top 15 classes. He would out-recruit DeBoer right now. The fact that Eugene is a rest stop doesn't matter. It's all Phil and Nike.
    It didn't recruit itself under Helfrich.
    NIL wasn't around with Slingblade.
    Ummmmm……
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    46XiJCAB said:

    Swaye said:

    chuck said:

    Gladstone said:

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.


    My fear is that Wilcox, as an alum, could end up the type who's there for 20 years.
    Yes, as a Junction City kid and UO alum, he probably seems appealing from a "we're a stepping stone school" perspective

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.


    It might not be lightning in a bottle right away but he's going to bring stability and might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine.
    This is a bunch of platitude nonsense that doesn't mean anything. Bringing "stability" means nothing unless you're a good coach. This is one of those buzzwords on Twitter people throw out to try and sound smart. What does 'might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine' mean? How do you qualify this? Gibberish.

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.

    Oregon has a culture problem imo and Wilcox could very well be the type to fix it, or at least add a little substance to their charade.

    What does this mean? Culture problem of good recruiting? Hiring good coaches? What substance to what charade? This entire post feels like it was written by a ML algorithm that doesn't quite understand the training data yet

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.

    He will have the tools to do it. I could see him becoming Oregon's Whittingham. Not saying this will for sure happen by any means but I think it's a decent possibility that he's exactly what Oregon needs.
    Can you name literally any metric outside of "has ties to the physical area" that says Wilcox could be their Whittingham? Literally every sentence you typed is brutal wharrgarble nonsense.


    Glad to see that my dog isn't the only one dumb enough to try fighting high volume sprinklers. There's also the one pictured, and @CallMeBigErn
    I prefer revolving door Oregon coaching. In fact, I love it. You don't see it that way and that's cool, Chuck. That's cool.
    You were just stating that hiring Wilcox would bring 20 years of stability to Oregon.
    Bro, did you read the context? I'm saying there's a part of me that thinks that he could be the type to do so. Not saying he will ffs. I don't consider my opinion to be fact unlike some here. I'm raising the point that he could be good for Oregon as devil's advocate. Chill.
    He actually could be. I don't think it's a high probability, but I see your main point. I mean there are mega resources there, and if he could luck into or find a really quality innovative offensive mind he could maybe do some damage there. I'd have hated him at UW, but there is a different dynamic there.

    The one thing that would worry me as a Duck fan (and you alluded to this arguing the other way though) is his "stable" (read that as boring) type mentality. Oregon has always been loud, garish and new money rich. It's a huge part of their persona. That is not Wilcox. So I appreciate you thinking he might "fix" that in a sense, but I think fixing it would break them. It's a 2nd tier school in a shithole town. What makes them get top 10 recruiting classes is the new money swagger.

    Just my thoughts. On balance, I hope like fuck UO hires Wilcocks because I think there is a 10% chance or less he kills it. But there is a chance.
    He’s Mario 2.0 w/o the recruiting. Absolute wrong choice which is why Mullins will hire him.
    Nike and PK recruits for Oregon. Who ever they get will recruit fine. The notion that MC is such an outstanding recruiter is a myth. I could recruit to Oregon just as well. Money talks.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    dnc said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Swaye said:

    chuck said:

    Gladstone said:

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.


    My fear is that Wilcox, as an alum, could end up the type who's there for 20 years.
    Yes, as a Junction City kid and UO alum, he probably seems appealing from a "we're a stepping stone school" perspective

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.


    It might not be lightning in a bottle right away but he's going to bring stability and might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine.
    This is a bunch of platitude nonsense that doesn't mean anything. Bringing "stability" means nothing unless you're a good coach. This is one of those buzzwords on Twitter people throw out to try and sound smart. What does 'might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine' mean? How do you qualify this? Gibberish.

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.

    Oregon has a culture problem imo and Wilcox could very well be the type to fix it, or at least add a little substance to their charade.

    What does this mean? Culture problem of good recruiting? Hiring good coaches? What substance to what charade? This entire post feels like it was written by a ML algorithm that doesn't quite understand the training data yet

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.

    He will have the tools to do it. I could see him becoming Oregon's Whittingham. Not saying this will for sure happen by any means but I think it's a decent possibility that he's exactly what Oregon needs.
    Can you name literally any metric outside of "has ties to the physical area" that says Wilcox could be their Whittingham? Literally every sentence you typed is brutal wharrgarble nonsense.


    Glad to see that my dog isn't the only one dumb enough to try fighting high volume sprinklers. There's also the one pictured, and @CallMeBigErn
    I prefer revolving door Oregon coaching. In fact, I love it. You don't see it that way and that's cool, Chuck. That's cool.
    You were just stating that hiring Wilcox would bring 20 years of stability to Oregon.
    Bro, did you read the context? I'm saying there's a part of me that thinks that he could be the type to do so. Not saying he will ffs. I don't consider my opinion to be fact unlike some here. I'm raising the point that he could be good for Oregon as devil's advocate. Chill.
    He actually could be. I don't think it's a high probability, but I see your main point. I mean there are mega resources there, and if he could luck into or find a really quality innovative offensive mind he could maybe do some damage there. I'd have hated him at UW, but there is a different dynamic there.

    The one thing that would worry me as a Duck fan (and you alluded to this arguing the other way though) is his "stable" (read that as boring) type mentality. Oregon has always been loud, garish and new money rich. It's a huge part of their persona. That is not Wilcox. So I appreciate you thinking he might "fix" that in a sense, but I think fixing it would break them. It's a 2nd tier school in a shithole town. What makes them get top 10 recruiting classes is the new money swagger.

    Just my thoughts. On balance, I hope like fuck UO hires Wilcocks because I think there is a 10% chance or less he kills it. But there is a chance.
    He’s Mario 2.0 w/o the recruiting. Absolute wrong choice which is why Mullins will hire him.
    Oregon recruits itself at this point whether we like it or not. And the staff does most of the dirty work and there's no world where Oregon wouldn't shell out big bucks for assistants. Pretty sure Wilcox would still pull in top 15 classes. He would out-recruit DeBoer right now. The fact that Eugene is a rest stop doesn't matter. It's all Phil and Nike.
    It didn't recruit itself under Helfrich.
    NIL wasn't around with Slingblade.
    You think it's that big of a game changer?

    SC didn't have Lincoln Riley when Helfrich was there either.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,424 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Swaye said:

    chuck said:

    Gladstone said:

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.


    My fear is that Wilcox, as an alum, could end up the type who's there for 20 years.
    Yes, as a Junction City kid and UO alum, he probably seems appealing from a "we're a stepping stone school" perspective

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.


    It might not be lightning in a bottle right away but he's going to bring stability and might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine.
    This is a bunch of platitude nonsense that doesn't mean anything. Bringing "stability" means nothing unless you're a good coach. This is one of those buzzwords on Twitter people throw out to try and sound smart. What does 'might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine' mean? How do you qualify this? Gibberish.

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.

    Oregon has a culture problem imo and Wilcox could very well be the type to fix it, or at least add a little substance to their charade.

    What does this mean? Culture problem of good recruiting? Hiring good coaches? What substance to what charade? This entire post feels like it was written by a ML algorithm that doesn't quite understand the training data yet

    OreDawg said:

    Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.

    Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.
    The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.

    He will have the tools to do it. I could see him becoming Oregon's Whittingham. Not saying this will for sure happen by any means but I think it's a decent possibility that he's exactly what Oregon needs.
    Can you name literally any metric outside of "has ties to the physical area" that says Wilcox could be their Whittingham? Literally every sentence you typed is brutal wharrgarble nonsense.


    Glad to see that my dog isn't the only one dumb enough to try fighting high volume sprinklers. There's also the one pictured, and @CallMeBigErn
    I prefer revolving door Oregon coaching. In fact, I love it. You don't see it that way and that's cool, Chuck. That's cool.
    You were just stating that hiring Wilcox would bring 20 years of stability to Oregon.
    Bro, did you read the context? I'm saying there's a part of me that thinks that he could be the type to do so. Not saying he will ffs. I don't consider my opinion to be fact unlike some here. I'm raising the point that he could be good for Oregon as devil's advocate. Chill.
    He actually could be. I don't think it's a high probability, but I see your main point. I mean there are mega resources there, and if he could luck into or find a really quality innovative offensive mind he could maybe do some damage there. I'd have hated him at UW, but there is a different dynamic there.

    The one thing that would worry me as a Duck fan (and you alluded to this arguing the other way though) is his "stable" (read that as boring) type mentality. Oregon has always been loud, garish and new money rich. It's a huge part of their persona. That is not Wilcox. So I appreciate you thinking he might "fix" that in a sense, but I think fixing it would break them. It's a 2nd tier school in a shithole town. What makes them get top 10 recruiting classes is the new money swagger.

    Just my thoughts. On balance, I hope like fuck UO hires Wilcocks because I think there is a 10% chance or less he kills it. But there is a chance.
    He’s Mario 2.0 w/o the recruiting. Absolute wrong choice which is why Mullins will hire him.
    Oregon recruits itself at this point whether we like it or not. And the staff does most of the dirty work and there's no world where Oregon wouldn't shell out big bucks for assistants. Pretty sure Wilcox would still pull in top 15 classes. He would out-recruit DeBoer right now. The fact that Eugene is a rest stop doesn't matter. It's all Phil and Nike.
    It didn't recruit itself under Helfrich.
    NIL wasn't around with Slingblade.
    You think it's that big of a game changer?

    SC didn't have Lincoln Riley when Helfrich was there either.

    I would argue NIL levels the playing field