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I want Oregon to make the worst hire possible. If that's Wilcox, great. I just have a gut feeling that he's not the worst they can do. He's generally regarded as a good coach. I don't hold his successes/lack of successes at Cal as much of a barometer. Have you been to a game at Cal? If it got any more exciting a funeral would break out. It's not a great gig, he's hamstrung, he wants out in the worst way, and he has 1/10th the resources he would at Oregon. He's not a hype man and he's not the type to make a jump after 2 years to the NFL. He's a good dude with substance. Cristobal is a used car salesman. Remember, Oregon was at their best with the Bellotti/Kelly tree. They weren't getting top 5 classes, but they were a program with amazing stability and coaching. I see Wilcox as being the type to establish that type of stability over time (if he's any good, of course). Y'all may want Wilcox to Oregon based on his Cal history but I'm not convinced that he wouldn't be successful at O. Just a gut feeling.chuck said:
A decent possibility is enough to justify a hire of a coach who has never succeeded anywhere?CallMeBigErn said:
You may be right. You also may not be right. I'm just saying there's a decent possibility of him being better at Oregon with their resources than you might think. You folks need some Xannies.dnc said:
Wilcox sucks. I pray they hire him.CallMeBigErn said:Didn't realize suggesting Wilcox could be a good hire for Oregon was so triggering. What a bunch of fags.
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He’s Mario 2.0 w/o the recruiting. Absolute wrong choice which is why Mullins will hire him.Swaye said:
He actually could be. I don't think it's a high probability, but I see your main point. I mean there are mega resources there, and if he could luck into or find a really quality innovative offensive mind he could maybe do some damage there. I'd have hated him at UW, but there is a different dynamic there.CallMeBigErn said:
Bro, did you read the context? I'm saying there's a part of me that thinks that he could be the type to do so. Not saying he will ffs. I don't consider my opinion to be fact unlike some here. I'm raising the point that he could be good for Oregon as devil's advocate. Chill.Ice_Holmvik said:
You were just stating that hiring Wilcox would bring 20 years of stability to Oregon.CallMeBigErn said:
I prefer revolving door Oregon coaching. In fact, I love it. You don't see it that way and that's cool, Chuck. That's cool.chuck said:
Glad to see that my dog isn't the only one dumb enough to try fighting high volume sprinklers. There's also the one pictured, and @CallMeBigErnGladstone said:
Yes, as a Junction City kid and UO alum, he probably seems appealing from a "we're a stepping stone school" perspectiveCallMeBigErn said:theknowledge said:
The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.CallMeBigErn said:
Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.OreDawg said:Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.
My fear is that Wilcox, as an alum, could end up the type who's there for 20 years.
This is a bunch of platitude nonsense that doesn't mean anything. Bringing "stability" means nothing unless you're a good coach. This is one of those buzzwords on Twitter people throw out to try and sound smart. What does 'might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine' mean? How do you qualify this? Gibberish.CallMeBigErn said:theknowledge said:
The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.CallMeBigErn said:
Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.OreDawg said:Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.
It might not be lightning in a bottle right away but he's going to bring stability and might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine.CallMeBigErn said:theknowledge said:
The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.CallMeBigErn said:
Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.OreDawg said:Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.
Oregon has a culture problem imo and Wilcox could very well be the type to fix it, or at least add a little substance to their charade.
What does this mean? Culture problem of good recruiting? Hiring good coaches? What substance to what charade? This entire post feels like it was written by a ML algorithm that doesn't quite understand the training data yet
Can you name literally any metric outside of "has ties to the physical area" that says Wilcox could be their Whittingham? Literally every sentence you typed is brutal wharrgarble nonsense.CallMeBigErn said:theknowledge said:
The defense at Oregon under Wilcox will be improved but until proven otherwise I think Wiclox has offense AIDS. He just spreads it to whomever coaches offense under him. Baldwin was on an upward arc until he met Wilcox. Musgrave was an uninspired choice but even he is under what he produced at Virginia. This was the main reason I was wary of the Wilcox superior culture coming to UW. I just can’t handle any more bad offense.CallMeBigErn said:
Recruiting will take a step back to Chris Petersen at UW range but this is ultimately an upgrade imo.OreDawg said:Justin Wilcox might be their best realistic option at this point.
He will have the tools to do it. I could see him becoming Oregon's Whittingham. Not saying this will for sure happen by any means but I think it's a decent possibility that he's exactly what Oregon needs.
The one thing that would worry me as a Duck fan (and you alluded to this arguing the other way though) is his "stable" (read that as boring) type mentality. Oregon has always been loud, garish and new money rich. It's a huge part of their persona. That is not Wilcox. So I appreciate you thinking he might "fix" that in a sense, but I think fixing it would break them. It's a 2nd tier school in a shithole town. What makes them get top 10 recruiting classes is the new money swagger.
Just my thoughts. On balance, I hope like fuck UO hires Wilcocks because I think there is a 10% chance or less he kills it. But there is a chance. -
I'm the opposite of triggered, I just didn't understand that post at all. It was just a bunch of meaningless dross sentences slapped together. I agree that Wilcox (or almost anyone) could conceivably work out. Their AD gives a fuck about winning, and that goes a long way.
Now explain what "might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine" means because I'm genuinely curious. Let's start there and then move to some of your other sentences. -
See: Mario Cristobal, Willie TaggartGladstone said:I'm the opposite of triggered, I just didn't understand that post at all. It was just a bunch of meaningless dross sentences slapped together. I agree that Wilcox (or almost anyone) could conceivably work out. Their AD gives a fuck about winning, and that goes a long way.
Now explain what "might be less about the glitzy glamorous Oregon hype machine" means because I'm genuinely curious. Let's start there and then move to some of your other sentences.
I didn't think this was too difficult to understand but I'll try and make it a little easier for you to digest. I fear a good (maybe?) stable (maybe?) coach who wants to be there with resources more than a used car salesman. See: Bellotti, Chip (before he went pro).
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Wilcox would be a GREAT hire…CallMeBigErn said:Didn't realize suggesting Wilcox could be a good hire for Oregon was so triggering. What a bunch of fags.
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There must be at least 80 coaches out there, who are attainable for Oregon, who have more to show on their resume than Justin Wilcox. The only reason he is even mentioned for new or upcoming vacancies is because he has connections to the schools in question and because when it comes right down to it, ADs and even fans are so cowardly about trying someone new that they're more comfortable rationalizing "safe" mediocrity in their hires. When it came right down to it the majority of UW fans here even started to turn that way before the AD somehow stumbled into making the bold, correct choice.
The unwillingness to branch out reminds me of incest. I'm not sure if that nerdy chick is actually smoking hot or not, so I'm just going to screw my cousin who I already know is back to a solid 5 after her third kid. -
Who is attainable? All the big fish have been caught. I can't believe I'm debating who Oregon should hire. I just want whoever is going to fail miserably. I want another Taggart.chuck said:There must be at least 80 coaches out there, who are attainable for Oregon, who have more to show on their resume than Justin Wilcox. The only reason he is even mentioned for new or upcoming vacancies is because he has connections to the schools in question and because when it comes right down to it, ADs and even fans are so cowardly about trying someone new that they're more comfortable rationalizing "safe" mediocrity in their hires. When it came right down to it the majority of UW fans here even started to turn that way before the AD somehow stumbled into making the bold, correct choice.
The unwillingness to branch out reminds me of incest. I'm not sure if that nerdy chick is actually smoking hot or not, so I'm just going to screw my cousin who I already know is back to a solid 5 after her third kid. -
You are en fuego.chuck said:There must be at least 80 coaches out there, who are attainable for Oregon, who have more to show on their resume than Justin Wilcox. The only reason he is even mentioned for new or upcoming vacancies is because he has connections to the schools in question and because when it comes right down to it, ADs and even fans are so cowardly about trying someone new that they're more comfortable rationalizing "safe" mediocrity in their hires. When it came right down to it the majority of UW fans here even started to turn that way before the AD somehow stumbled into making the bold, correct choice.
The unwillingness to branch out reminds me of incest. I'm not sure if that nerdy chick is actually smoking hot or not, so I'm just going to screw my cousin who I already know is back to a solid 5 after her third kid. -
How’s him “sick” mom?
