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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    Florida was a shit program until they started caring about basketball.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Gators_men's_basketball

    Fixed.
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    Hiring a guy with two years of HC experience at Marshall screams caring about basketball:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Donovan

    When did you turn into such a fucking Doog anyway?
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    puppylove_sugarsteel said:

    Romar is in the Ty Willingham phase of coaching -early retirement! 16 hour days are LONG GONE in Romar ' s world. Fire that worthless fuck and get a young motivated head coach who strives to be a champion. Otherwise .500 basketball will be the norm around Montlake.

    We all know the real reason why you want Romar gone. You have proven to like crappy coaches before but all of a sudden you want Romar gone? Hmmmmmmm
    PLSS hates mustaches?
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    Hiring a guy with two years of HC experience at Marshall screams caring about basketball:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Donovan

    When did you turn into such a fucking Doog anyway?

    Doogs and moorainers have a lot in common when it comes to is basketball and the Mariners. Hope is a great strategy. 95 years and no end in sight. But I'm sure with just the right coach.....
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    Hiring a guy with two years of HC experience at Marshall screams caring about basketball:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Donovan

    When did you turn into such a fucking Doog anyway?

    I've always been a doog.

    HTH
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    Florida was a shit program until they hired the right coach:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Gators_men's_basketball

    The best example IMO. Nobody will care about basketball until we start winning.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    RoadDawg55 said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    Florida was a shit program until they hired the right coach:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Gators_men's_basketball

    The best example IMO. Nobody will care about basketball until we start winning.
    Hopefully we get the right coach. 1920-2014 hasn't seen it it, but I'm sure it's about to happen.

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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    The best BB coach at a football school wins more than he loses, is generally likable by alumni and the community and doesn't poison the well for the football program.

    Romar is the perfect coach for Washington.
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  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited April 2014
    sarktastic said:

    The best BB coach at a football school wins more than he loses, is generally likable by alumni and the community and doesn't poison the well for the football program.

    Romar is the perfect coach for Washington.

    Texas, Florida, and Ohio State must have missed that memo

    Fuck it, might as well throw in Michigan State and Wisconsin too
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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    The schools you mention have maxed out their football programs. They have the luxury of turning to lacrosse, ping pong and basketball to find incremental growth.
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,567 Standard Supporter
    RoadDawg55 said:

    sarktastic said:

    The schools you mention have maxed out their football programs. They have the luxury of turning to lacrosse, ping pong and basketball to find incremental growth.

    This is a really FS post. Damone is probably right that it won't happen, but there is no reason why it couldn't if they hired the right coach. It has nothing to do with fans not caring. They will care when the wins come. All about hiring the right coach. The same as it's always been.
    This.
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327
    RoadDawg55 said:

    sarktastic said:

    The schools you mention have maxed out their football programs. They have the luxury of turning to lacrosse, ping pong and basketball to find incremental growth.

    This is a really FS post. Damone is probably right that it won't happen, but there is no reason why it couldn't if they hired the right coach. It has nothing to do with fans not caring. They will care when the wins come. All about hiring the right coach. The same as it's always been.
    It has to be the guy that doesn't leave as soon as Kentucky or Kansas etc...are hiring. You are right that if we had a coach that had us consistently good it could turn into an Arizona. Maybe if we got a taste of the final 4 the main boosters would start paying the aau coaches and the stadium would expand. I really don't see this happening. And in all reality I really don't care that much about college basketball. Missed opend jumpshots and over controlling coaches aren't that great of a spectator sport.
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  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,142
    MikeDamone said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    Florida was a shit program until they started caring about basketball.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Gators_men's_basketball

    Fixed.
    Hey genius, if you have a good fucking coach, you will have a good fucking season, you will get people to care about the fucking program, and you will get asses into the fucking seats.

    People in the PNW rarely show up to support mediocrity (Husky football being the exception). Look at the home crowds at UW's basketball games this year. No one is their because they fucking suck, not because "the boosters and fans don't care about basketball"

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  • phineas
    phineas Member Posts: 4,732
    AtomicDawg said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    sarktastic said:

    The schools you mention have maxed out their football programs. They have the luxury of turning to lacrosse, ping pong and basketball to find incremental growth.

    This is a really FS post. Damone is probably right that it won't happen, but there is no reason why it couldn't if they hired the right coach. It has nothing to do with fans not caring. They will care when the wins come. All about hiring the right coach. The same as it's always been.
    It has to be the guy that doesn't leave as soon as Kentucky or Kansas etc...are hiring. You are right that if we had a coach that had us consistently good it could turn into an Arizona. Maybe if we got a taste of the final 4 the main boosters would start paying the aau coaches and the stadium would expand. I really don't see this happening. And in all reality I really don't care that much about college basketball. Missed opend jumpshots and over controlling coaches aren't that great of a spectator sport.
    Idk, i quite enjoyed watching calipari coach up his kids during the game yesterday. That guy can coach. I can understand whya guy would want to play for him
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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    RoadDawg55 said:

    sarktastic said:

    The schools you mention have maxed out their football programs. They have the luxury of turning to lacrosse, ping pong and basketball to find incremental growth.

    This is a really FS post. Damone is probably right that it won't happen, but there is no reason why it couldn't if they hired the right coach. It has nothing to do with fans not caring. They will care when the wins come. All about hiring the right coach. The same as it's always been.
    I love doog emotional rants... no facts needed.

    If one were to consider the facts, such as attendance at D-1 basketball games has been falling for 5 straight years, TV ratings are down, max attendance at Hec Ed is capped with NO plans for expansion and any coach UW DID get that fluked out a FF appearance would simply be hired away by somebody willing to pay $3, 4, maybe even 5 million, you would see why Woody is putting his investment into a sport with growth capacity... Football.
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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    edited April 2014
    RoadDawg55 said:

    sarktastic said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    sarktastic said:

    The schools you mention have maxed out their football programs. They have the luxury of turning to lacrosse, ping pong and basketball to find incremental growth.

    This is a really FS post. Damone is probably right that it won't happen, but there is no reason why it couldn't if they hired the right coach. It has nothing to do with fans not caring. They will care when the wins come. All about hiring the right coach. The same as it's always been.
    I love doog emotional rants... no facts needed.

    If one were to consider the facts, such as attendance at D-1 basketball games has been falling for 5 straight years, TV ratings are down, max attendance at Hec Ed is capped with NO plans for expansion and any coach UW DID get that fluked out a FF appearance would simply be hired away by somebody willing to pay $3, 4, maybe even 5 million, you would see why Woody is putting his investment into a sport with growth capacity... Football.
    That was a rant? You must have missed where I said it probably won't happen. You are one of the dumbest posters on the board. Attendance is down because we suck. Hec Ed holding 10,000 is fine for now. It's more than Duke and it was a pretty good atmosphere when we had good teams.

    Worrying about the coach leaving with any success is FS. Worry about that when the time comes. The UW AD has plenty of money to pay a successful coach $3, 4 million. Where are they going? There aren't that many elite jobs.

    There's about 10 and then a bunch of jobs that are roughly equal depending on their recent success. The elite jobs like Duke, UNC, Kansas, and Kentucky aren't open very often. NBA teams rarely hire college coaches. Somehow Jim Calhoun and Billy Donovan didn't leave once they got power conference jobs. It very well could happen, but if a coach gives us 5 good years and bolts, the program is in better shape to hire a capable replacement. I guess UCLA is stupid for having Jim Mora as coach because he's probably going to leave in the next few years.

    Total D-1 men's basketball attendance is in secular decline.

    ... and Jim Mora coaches football ... a sport with substantial growth potential at UCLA.

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    While on topic of basketball at what point do we stop considering UCLA a power? I mean they've won just won fucking title since 1976. Only been to the NCAA finals three fucking times since Wooden retired in 1975.

    Only been to the final four six times(first year immediately after Wooden, three straight with Howland). Only 10 regular season conference championships since 1980.

    At what point do you just say they happened to have a great coach in Wooden and they aren't a great program. Prior to Wooden they weren't shit and after Wooden they've been living off of his name as they haven't really done jack shit.

    When a coaching job opened up they had to settle for Steve Alford, while when Kentucky job came up they landed Calipari, UNC got Roy Williams.
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    PostGameOrangeSlices said:

    MikeDamone said:

    TierbsHsotBoobs said:

    Florida was a shit program until they started caring about basketball.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Gators_men's_basketball

    Fixed.
    Hey genius, if you have a good fucking coach, you will have a good fucking season, you will get people to care about the fucking program, and you will get asses into the fucking seats.

    People in the PNW rarely show up to support mediocrity (Husky football being the exception). Look at the home crowds at UW's basketball games this year. No one is their because they fucking suck, not because "the boosters and fans don't care about basketball"

    If only UW could get just the right coach.....
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    dnc said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    Im talking long term ucla, arizona, unc, kansas type of success, not Butler or Creighton

    Arizona was nothing before they hired Lute Olson. UCLA was nothing before they hired John Wooden. UConn was nothing before they hired Calhoun.

    Etc.
    Recent example of "etc." - Florida and Billy.
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  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,567 Standard Supporter
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    While on topic of basketball at what point do we stop considering UCLA a power? I mean they've won just won fucking title since 1976. Only been to the NCAA finals three fucking times since Wooden retired in 1975.

    Only been to the final four six times(first year immediately after Wooden, three straight with Howland). Only 10 regular season conference championships since 1980.

    At what point do you just say they happened to have a great coach in Wooden and they aren't a great program. Prior to Wooden they weren't shit and after Wooden they've been living off of his name as they haven't really done jack shit.

    When a coaching job opened up they had to settle for Steve Alford, while when Kentucky job came up they landed Calipari, UNC got Roy Williams.

    They're a secondary power. Outside of Howland's run and the '95 team, they're usually a 4-8 seed. Alford is overrated so that won't change anytime soon.
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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    edited April 2014
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    While on topic of basketball at what point do we stop considering UCLA a power? I mean they've won just won fucking title since 1976. Only been to the NCAA finals three fucking times since Wooden retired in 1975.

    Only been to the final four six times(first year immediately after Wooden, three straight with Howland). Only 10 regular season conference championships since 1980.

    At what point do you just say they happened to have a great coach in Wooden and they aren't a great program. Prior to Wooden they weren't shit and after Wooden they've been living off of his name as they haven't really done jack shit.

    When a coaching job opened up they had to settle for Steve Alford, while when Kentucky job came up they landed Calipari, UNC got Roy Williams.

    well... that coach UCLA 'settled' for did get them to the sweet sixteen and won 28 games in his first season so....

    also, the last time Romar won the Pac-12 wayyyyyy back in 2012, Hec Ed had tickets available at the booth past tipoff for every single game but one... the game vs. the Cuogs.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    So UCLA is amazing for making the sweet 16? Steve Lavin made a few sweet 16's and nobody considers his tenure successful.
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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    So UCLA is amazing for making the sweet 16? Steve Lavin made a few sweet 16's and nobody considers his tenure successful.

    Reading isn't really in your wheelhouse, is it... NTTAWWT.

    I'm thinking it was Lavin's 10-19 final season that gave Bruin fans the greatest heartburn rather than a string of sweet 16 appearances but, I don't really follow the Bruins so, I might have a faulty read on that.
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  • [Deleted User]
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    sarktastic said:

    He_Needs_More_Time said:

    So UCLA is amazing for making the sweet 16? Steve Lavin made a few sweet 16's and nobody considers his tenure successful.

    Reading isn't really in your wheelhouse, is it... NTTAWWT.

    I'm thinking it was Lavin's 10-19 final season that gave Bruin fans the greatest heartburn rather than a string of sweet 16 appearances but, I don't really follow the Bruins so, I might have a faulty read on that.
    So a string of sweet 16 seasons makes them a powerhouse?

    My whole point on UCLA is that they were a program that was nothing before Wooden and have been a mediocre program since Wooden. So if anything that goes into the whole find a good coach and you can be a power philosophy.

    Lavin also never made a final four at UCLA which is to be looked down on. He was their Jim Lambright.
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  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    oh.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    sarktastic said:

    oh.

    YBE
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