Helfrich says this is the most talented/fast team he's seen

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RoadDawg55 said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

In all seriousness I like UCLA to win the Pac-12 this year.

I think it will be UCLA-Oregon in the title game.

I think so too. I don't see how Mora doesn't win the South. ASU and AZ lost a lot last year and USC has Sark so they are already mathematically eliminated.

oregonblitzkrieg

haie said:

I don't know if it's the fact that you guys have dominated just about everybody for awhile now or what, but I would be pretty shocked at a 7-9 win season out of Oregon. If that's the case I would think that the players had lost respect for Helfrich (or Pellum or insert-toolbag-assistant) at some point in the season.

Helfrich needs to drag his nuts through shards of glass in the offseason and get tougher on the players or hit the road.

Mosster47

Mike Bellotti was good when he had talent. 1996, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2007, 2008 were all good years. If you took a young Mike Bellotti and placed him at the helm this same time Slingblade took over I think you would see parallel results.

All I have to go from is last year. The wheels fell off late and the offense still sucked balls in the bowl game with a month to prepare. With Addison down it seems like the running backs will have to carry the team and none of them have showed so far that they could be the core of an elite offense.

We'll know after Sparty if the defense is capable of anything.

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Mike Bellotti was good when he had a good OC like Tedford or Kelly. When he had neither from 2002-2006 he drowned.

Showing he was a bad coach.

Tequilla

You can bet on Sparty not respecting Oregon's WRs and doing everything possible to dominate the LOS and take away the Oregon running game. We'll learn very early on whether or not Oregon's got the playmakers to surround Mariota to be a conference contender. If not, Sparty will put the clamps on them, then UCLA will, and a good chance that Petersen will as well.

RaccoonHarry

He_Needs_More_Time said:

Mike Bellotti was good when he had a good OC like Tedford or Kelly. When he had neither from 2002-2006 he drowned.

Showing he was a bad coach.

Everybody likes to bash Bellotti, a lot of it because of the bonehead things that often came out of his mouth ("the best team didn't win", following a loss - shit like that). However, looking at the guy objectively he finished with a winning record against every other conference opponent, even USC. The last opponent has an asterisk because as I recall Oregon lucked out there by not playing the Trojans two years in a row when USC was really, really good. Be that as it may Bellotti was FAR from a "bad coach". He sure wasn't Chip Kelly but he won a lot of games when Oregon was still Oregon, in other words before the big Phil Knight money kicked in.

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RaccoonHarry said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

Mike Bellotti was good when he had a good OC like Tedford or Kelly. When he had neither from 2002-2006 he drowned.

Showing he was a bad coach.

Everybody likes to bash Bellotti, a lot of it because of the bonehead things that often came out of his mouth ("the best team didn't win", following a loss - shit like that). However, looking at the guy objectively he finished with a winning record against every other conference opponent, even USC. The last opponent has an asterisk because as I recall Oregon lucked out there by not playing the Trojans two years in a row when USC was really, really good. Be that as it may Bellotti was FAR from a "bad coach". He sure wasn't Chip Kelly but he won a lot of games when Oregon was still Oregon, in other words before the big Phil Knight money kicked in.

Mike Bellotti at Chico State went 21-25-2 in five seasons and unlike James was getting worse at his small school. He went 4-5-1, 4-4-1, 7-3, 3-6, and 3-7.

At Oregon here are his W-L I'll bold those where Tedford or Kelly wasn't his OC.

1995: 9-3, 6-2, 3rd place. Ranked 18th
1996: 6-5, 3-5, T-5th
1997: 7-5, 3-5, T-7th

Totals: 22-13, 12-12

Now Tedford comes in the program

1998: 8-4, 5-3, T-3rd
1999: 9-3, 6-2, T-2nd, ranked 18th
2000: 10-2, 7-1, T-1st, ranked 7th
2001: 11-1, 7-1, 1st, ranked 2nd

Totals: 38-10, 25-7

Now Tedford takes off to Cal.

2002: 7-6, 3-5, 8th place
2003: 8-5, 5-3, T-3rd
2004: 5-6, 4-4, T-5th
2005: 10-2, 7-1, 2nd. Ranked 12th
2006: 7-6, 4-5, T-5th

Totals: 37-25, 23-18

Chip Kelly now enters the program.

2007: 9-4, 5-4, T-4th. Ranked 23rd(Were ranked top 5 all year until Dixon got hurt)
2008: 10-3, 7-2, T-2nd. Ranked 10th

Totals: 19-7, 12-6

If these numbers don't spell out the picture that Bellotti is actually a bad coach who happened to benefit from two great OC's then I can't help you. The stats don't lie at all.

RoadDawg55

Tequilla said:

You can bet on Sparty not respecting Oregon's WRs and doing everything possible to dominate the LOS and take away the Oregon running game. We'll learn very early on whether or not Oregon's got the playmakers to surround Mariota to be a conference contender. If not, Sparty will put the clamps on them, then UCLA will, and a good chance that Petersen will as well.

Disagree. Oregon's offense isn't very dependent on WR's. Someone will step up. Cool it with the Petersen is going to put the clamps on until it happens.

AZDuck

Mike's a good guy.

















(who happens to make $500k annually from the Oregon PERS)

He_Needs_More_Time said:

RaccoonHarry said:

He_Needs_More_Time said:

Mike Bellotti was good when he had a good OC like Tedford or Kelly. When he had neither from 2002-2006 he drowned.

Showing he was a bad coach.

Everybody likes to bash Bellotti, a lot of it because of the bonehead things that often came out of his mouth ("the best team didn't win", following a loss - shit like that). However, looking at the guy objectively he finished with a winning record against every other conference opponent, even USC. The last opponent has an asterisk because as I recall Oregon lucked out there by not playing the Trojans two years in a row when USC was really, really good. Be that as it may Bellotti was FAR from a "bad coach". He sure wasn't Chip Kelly but he won a lot of games when Oregon was still Oregon, in other words before the big Phil Knight money kicked in.

Mike Bellotti at Chico State went 21-25-2 in five seasons and unlike James was getting worse at his small school. He went 4-5-1, 4-4-1, 7-3, 3-6, and 3-7.

At Oregon here are his W-L I'll bold those where Tedford or Kelly wasn't his OC.

1995: 9-3, 6-2, 3rd place. Ranked 18th
1996: 6-5, 3-5, T-5th
1997: 7-5, 3-5, T-7th

Totals: 22-13, 12-12

Now Tedford comes in the program

1998: 8-4, 5-3, T-3rd
1999: 9-3, 6-2, T-2nd, ranked 18th
2000: 10-2, 7-1, T-1st, ranked 7th
2001: 11-1, 7-1, 1st, ranked 2nd

Totals: 38-10, 25-7

Now Tedford takes off to Cal.

2002: 7-6, 3-5, 8th place
2003: 8-5, 5-3, T-3rd
2004: 5-6, 4-4, T-5th
2005: 10-2, 7-1, 2nd. Ranked 12th
2006: 7-6, 4-5, T-5th

Totals: 37-25, 23-18

Chip Kelly now enters the program.

2007: 9-4, 5-4, T-4th. Ranked 23rd(Were ranked top 5 all year until Dixon got hurt)
2008: 10-3, 7-2, T-2nd. Ranked 10th

Totals: 19-7, 12-6

If these numbers don't spell out the picture that Bellotti is actually a bad coach who happened to benefit from two great OC's then I can't help you. The stats don't lie at all.

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Truthfully I always knew Tedford/Kelly had carried Bellotti but I never knew it was this bad.