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Was Jimmy just lazy?
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Fuck the high road shit. Jimmy got 10+ mil to win 7 games over 2 years.insinceredawg said:
I wont cry for him, he barely put in the effort. Sven could have done a better job at 10% of the price.
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The honeymoon period is over; and the merciless bullying has commenced.dnc said:
Never made the Coker/Dennis TSIO/The U coaches connection before.creepycoug said:
This. I like to point to Dennis Erickson, but it's disingenuous. Although he inherited a juggernaut, he recruited well himself, brought more offensive firepower and was a legitimately good, but not great coach. Denny's problem was always staying power.GreenRiverGatorz said:
That's the fucking point. You're making a circular argument that is essentially saying the same thing @FremontTroll is saying. Jimmy Lake was such a malignant cancer that he couldn't even do the bare minimum and coast off of the program that was handed to him, stocked with blue chip recruits and a system of development and recruiting that was proven to work.Houhusky said:
"If Jimmy just had hired an average/normal offensive coordinator then UW would likely be humming along at a decently good clip of 10-3 or so every year"FremontTroll said:
Where did I say he didn’t fail spectacularly? It’s actually amazing how fast and hard it crashed given the place the program was in when the reigns were handed over.Houhusky said:
What an incredibly dumbfuck doog take.FremontTroll said:Something to remember is that the margin for error in football is very small. Every coach of every program was successful at some level but most have to fail in order that a few can succeed.
If Jimmy just had hired an average/normal offensive coordinator then UW would likely be humming along at a decently good clip of 10-3 or so every year and the discussion of Jimmy’s faults would be why can’t he get us to the next level.
The lack of any recruiting success is probably more bizarre than the on field failures since pretty much any new coach can generate excitement initially with promises of their future vision. Jimmy didn’t even get a honeymoon class.
Surely the lack of strong recruiters on staff had something to do with that. At some point this last year I think the rot within the program became obvious to potential recruits sinking them even further.
Jimmy's program regressed and failed in every fucking aspect, seriously, what fucking thing did he do well? Because it sure as hell wasn't recruiting, player development, scheme, coaching hires, mental toughness, or fucking winning.
All Jimmy had to do is keep the ship that Pete built cruising and instead he ran it face first into an iceberg @GrandpaSankey could see.
The people who think the difference from 10-3 was just Morris not starting or some shitty OC are a special kind of full fucking retard.
DIAFF.
My point is Jimmy was put into a great position and despite his faults if he hadn’t hired JonDon and simply handed over control of offense to any coordinator with decently modern concept that we would have ended up stuck with Jimmy for a long time as he could have easily put up 10 win seasons (at least 2020/21) without much effort.
The margin between .400 and .700 in the short term is not that large. Plenty of terrible coaches have put up good records you only need to be great to sustain in the long run.
If you believe this you are a retard. Lake was never going to achieve "10-3 or so every year" even if he had prime Reggie Bush and Lincoln Riley as OC for the rest of his life.
Jimmy Lake was a malignant cancer, not a benign tumor. He actively made those around him worse.
Plenty of dumbfuck coaches have taken the reigns of a successful program, enjoyed some easy wins off the coattails of their predecessor, and coasted before things finally started crumbling. Jimmy aggressively undid everything that was given to him and actively made every aspect of the program worse. If he had simply taken the lazy dipshit's way of doing things, and left it all in place, he could've coasted for these first couple of years.
But Coker. The more you talk to Miami people from that era, the more you hear that Ed Reed took on more of an adult leadership position on that team than did Coker.
Jimmy is Coker, not Dennis, in my example. Only without the easy wins.
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This make Manny Diaz Tequila?dnc said:
Never made the Coker/Dennis TSIO/The U coaches connection before.creepycoug said:
This. I like to point to Dennis Erickson, but it's disingenuous. Although he inherited a juggernaut, he recruited well himself, brought more offensive firepower and was a legitimately good, but not great coach. Denny's problem was always staying power.GreenRiverGatorz said:
That's the fucking point. You're making a circular argument that is essentially saying the same thing @FremontTroll is saying. Jimmy Lake was such a malignant cancer that he couldn't even do the bare minimum and coast off of the program that was handed to him, stocked with blue chip recruits and a system of development and recruiting that was proven to work.Houhusky said:
"If Jimmy just had hired an average/normal offensive coordinator then UW would likely be humming along at a decently good clip of 10-3 or so every year"FremontTroll said:
Where did I say he didn’t fail spectacularly? It’s actually amazing how fast and hard it crashed given the place the program was in when the reigns were handed over.Houhusky said:
What an incredibly dumbfuck doog take.FremontTroll said:Something to remember is that the margin for error in football is very small. Every coach of every program was successful at some level but most have to fail in order that a few can succeed.
If Jimmy just had hired an average/normal offensive coordinator then UW would likely be humming along at a decently good clip of 10-3 or so every year and the discussion of Jimmy’s faults would be why can’t he get us to the next level.
The lack of any recruiting success is probably more bizarre than the on field failures since pretty much any new coach can generate excitement initially with promises of their future vision. Jimmy didn’t even get a honeymoon class.
Surely the lack of strong recruiters on staff had something to do with that. At some point this last year I think the rot within the program became obvious to potential recruits sinking them even further.
Jimmy's program regressed and failed in every fucking aspect, seriously, what fucking thing did he do well? Because it sure as hell wasn't recruiting, player development, scheme, coaching hires, mental toughness, or fucking winning.
All Jimmy had to do is keep the ship that Pete built cruising and instead he ran it face first into an iceberg @GrandpaSankey could see.
The people who think the difference from 10-3 was just Morris not starting or some shitty OC are a special kind of full fucking retard.
DIAFF.
My point is Jimmy was put into a great position and despite his faults if he hadn’t hired JonDon and simply handed over control of offense to any coordinator with decently modern concept that we would have ended up stuck with Jimmy for a long time as he could have easily put up 10 win seasons (at least 2020/21) without much effort.
The margin between .400 and .700 in the short term is not that large. Plenty of terrible coaches have put up good records you only need to be great to sustain in the long run.
If you believe this you are a retard. Lake was never going to achieve "10-3 or so every year" even if he had prime Reggie Bush and Lincoln Riley as OC for the rest of his life.
Jimmy Lake was a malignant cancer, not a benign tumor. He actively made those around him worse.
Plenty of dumbfuck coaches have taken the reigns of a successful program, enjoyed some easy wins off the coattails of their predecessor, and coasted before things finally started crumbling. Jimmy aggressively undid everything that was given to him and actively made every aspect of the program worse. If he had simply taken the lazy dipshit's way of doing things, and left it all in place, he could've coasted for these first couple of years.
But Coker. The more you talk to Miami people from that era, the more you hear that Ed Reed took on more of an adult leadership position on that team than did Coker.
Jimmy is Coker, not Dennis, in my example. Only without the easy wins.
Mind blown.
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Knew hear?FremontTroll said:Apparently if someone tags you you then get a notification anytime that reply is quoted. Thanks Vanilla!
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Kim is the king of seeing things coming after they happeninsinceredawg said: -
Besides the hindisht "I knew it all along" that Kim is "famous" for, it's pathetic how he pretends to have ever gotten close enough/had enough of a personal relationship with Jimmy to actually perceive a change in his personality.insinceredawg said:
Sorry Kim - you're short, balding, and reek of desperation. In other words, you're a loser. Jimmy still probably gets you confused with Fetters, which should indicate just how unremarkable you are. -
Lake was much more about celebrity than his team. Great DC and DB coach. Gotta still work when you get to the top. He enjoyed being the UW HC a little too much.
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Kimmy so full of shit!!! He didn’t call Lake!CuntWaffle said:
Kim is the king of seeing things coming after they happeninsinceredawg said:
Fuck Lake was on Pete’s Boise staff. Kimmy is such a fucktard lier.
