Was Jimmy just lazy?
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What an incredibly dumbfuck doog take.FremontTroll said:Something to remember is that the margin for error in football is very small. Every coach of every program was successful at some level but most have to fail in order that a few can succeed.
If Jimmy just had hired an average/normal offensive coordinator then UW would likely be humming along at a decently good clip of 10-3 or so every year and the discussion of Jimmy’s faults would be why can’t he get us to the next level.
The lack of any recruiting success is probably more bizarre than the on field failures since pretty much any new coach can generate excitement initially with promises of their future vision. Jimmy didn’t even get a honeymoon class.
Surely the lack of strong recruiters on staff had something to do with that. At some point this last year I think the rot within the program became obvious to potential recruits sinking them even further.
Jimmy's program regressed and failed in every fucking aspect, seriously, what fucking thing did he do well? Because it sure as hell wasn't recruiting, player development, scheme, coaching hires, mental toughness, or fucking winning.
All Jimmy had to do is keep the ship that Pete built cruising and instead he ran it face first into an iceberg @GrandpaSankey could see.
The people who think the difference from 10-3 was just Morris not starting or some shitty OC are a special kind of full fucking retard.
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The one assistant I am most looking forward to not being on staff is Will Harris. Absolutely worthless. Just aggressively lazy to not be able to recruit defensive backs after the production we’ve had. Stunning regression by the safeties as well.
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Jimmy will be back. For three years he is available cheap since he gets his 3 million less what he makes. NFL or college, someone is making him an assistant.
If he learned anything from failure, and some people do, who knows.
Coaches protect coaches.
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I mean, I don't know the guy, so I can't really say. But this seems pretty much spot on from what I see. I think a lot of people look at the top job and think, "I could do that. Just directing traffic and shit, tell other people what to do, get a coffee and boat home." Or whatever. Still, wondering what he brought to the table for Jen and others to fawn over him like they did. He wasn't even an elite DC. He peaked as the author of DBU. That was his high water mark.Kingdome_Urinals said:He thought being the big leader would be easy. He thought he was a living, breathing special sauce. He had no idea what it took to lead a complex organization like a P5 football team.
He's a guy who had his ass kissed every step of the way and had no drive to be a great HC. Because he already thought he was a great HC, without proving anything.
He probably actually thought he was bigger than the job, and bigger than UW.
He is that big of an idiot.
Trying and competing and accepting "no" from recruits or criticism from outside the program made him triple down on his own decisions in paranoid/deeply insecure fashion.
@Ballz is probably being fitted for a straight jacket at the moment. -
Where did I say he didn’t fail spectacularly? It’s actually amazing how fast and hard it crashed given the place the program was in when the reigns were handed over.Houhusky said:
What an incredibly dumbfuck doog take.FremontTroll said:Something to remember is that the margin for error in football is very small. Every coach of every program was successful at some level but most have to fail in order that a few can succeed.
If Jimmy just had hired an average/normal offensive coordinator then UW would likely be humming along at a decently good clip of 10-3 or so every year and the discussion of Jimmy’s faults would be why can’t he get us to the next level.
The lack of any recruiting success is probably more bizarre than the on field failures since pretty much any new coach can generate excitement initially with promises of their future vision. Jimmy didn’t even get a honeymoon class.
Surely the lack of strong recruiters on staff had something to do with that. At some point this last year I think the rot within the program became obvious to potential recruits sinking them even further.
Jimmy's program regressed and failed in every fucking aspect, seriously, what fucking thing did he do well? Because it sure as hell wasn't recruiting, player development, scheme, coaching hires, mental toughness, or fucking winning.
All Jimmy had to do is keep the ship that Pete built cruising and instead he ran it face first into an iceberg @GrandpaSankey could see.
The people who think the difference from 10-3 was just Morris not starting or some shitty OC are a special kind of full fucking retard.
DIAFF.
My point is Jimmy was put into a great position and despite his faults if he hadn’t hired JonDon and simply handed over control of offense to any coordinator with decently modern concept that we would have ended up stuck with Jimmy for a long time as he could have easily put up 10 win seasons (at least 2020/21) without much effort.
The margin between .400 and .700 in the short term is not that large. Plenty of terrible coaches have put up good records you only need to be great to sustain in the long run. -
Creepy Bartholomew Coug.sonics1993 said:There was this one guy early on who pointed that out. What was his name?
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I agree that if he hired an average OC they would probably be 9-1 or 8-2 right now. The regression wouldn't have materialized on the field for another 1-2 years similar to Oregon under Helfrich.FremontTroll said:
Where did I say he didn’t fail spectacularly? It’s actually amazing how fast and hard it crashed given the place the program was in when the reigns were handed over.Houhusky said:
What an incredibly dumbfuck doog take.FremontTroll said:Something to remember is that the margin for error in football is very small. Every coach of every program was successful at some level but most have to fail in order that a few can succeed.
If Jimmy just had hired an average/normal offensive coordinator then UW would likely be humming along at a decently good clip of 10-3 or so every year and the discussion of Jimmy’s faults would be why can’t he get us to the next level.
The lack of any recruiting success is probably more bizarre than the on field failures since pretty much any new coach can generate excitement initially with promises of their future vision. Jimmy didn’t even get a honeymoon class.
Surely the lack of strong recruiters on staff had something to do with that. At some point this last year I think the rot within the program became obvious to potential recruits sinking them even further.
Jimmy's program regressed and failed in every fucking aspect, seriously, what fucking thing did he do well? Because it sure as hell wasn't recruiting, player development, scheme, coaching hires, mental toughness, or fucking winning.
All Jimmy had to do is keep the ship that Pete built cruising and instead he ran it face first into an iceberg @GrandpaSankey could see.
The people who think the difference from 10-3 was just Morris not starting or some shitty OC are a special kind of full fucking retard.
DIAFF.
My point is Jimmy was put into a great position and despite his faults if he hadn’t hired JonDon and simply handed over control of offense to any coordinator with decently modern concept that we would have ended up stuck with Jimmy for a long time as he could have easily put up 10 win seasons (at least 2020/21) without much effort.
The margin between .400 and .700 in the short term is not that large. Plenty of terrible coaches have put up good records you only need to be great to sustain in the long run.
Something I've asked myself is, would I have taken 2-3 years of competitive play while the program was heading towards a cliff or swallow the shitty season now in hopes of a new coach turning things around quickly. I'd almost choose the former if it meant a CFP or Rose Bowl appearance vs having no idea what to expect going forward. -
"If Jimmy just had hired an average/normal offensive coordinator then UW would likely be humming along at a decently good clip of 10-3 or so every year"FremontTroll said:
Where did I say he didn’t fail spectacularly? It’s actually amazing how fast and hard it crashed given the place the program was in when the reigns were handed over.Houhusky said:
What an incredibly dumbfuck doog take.FremontTroll said:Something to remember is that the margin for error in football is very small. Every coach of every program was successful at some level but most have to fail in order that a few can succeed.
If Jimmy just had hired an average/normal offensive coordinator then UW would likely be humming along at a decently good clip of 10-3 or so every year and the discussion of Jimmy’s faults would be why can’t he get us to the next level.
The lack of any recruiting success is probably more bizarre than the on field failures since pretty much any new coach can generate excitement initially with promises of their future vision. Jimmy didn’t even get a honeymoon class.
Surely the lack of strong recruiters on staff had something to do with that. At some point this last year I think the rot within the program became obvious to potential recruits sinking them even further.
Jimmy's program regressed and failed in every fucking aspect, seriously, what fucking thing did he do well? Because it sure as hell wasn't recruiting, player development, scheme, coaching hires, mental toughness, or fucking winning.
All Jimmy had to do is keep the ship that Pete built cruising and instead he ran it face first into an iceberg @GrandpaSankey could see.
The people who think the difference from 10-3 was just Morris not starting or some shitty OC are a special kind of full fucking retard.
DIAFF.
My point is Jimmy was put into a great position and despite his faults if he hadn’t hired JonDon and simply handed over control of offense to any coordinator with decently modern concept that we would have ended up stuck with Jimmy for a long time as he could have easily put up 10 win seasons (at least 2020/21) without much effort.
The margin between .400 and .700 in the short term is not that large. Plenty of terrible coaches have put up good records you only need to be great to sustain in the long run.
If you believe this you are a retard. Lake was never going to achieve "10-3 or so every year" even if he had prime Reggie Bush and Lincoln Riley as OC for the rest of his life.
Jimmy Lake was a malignant cancer, not a benign tumor. He actively made those around him worse. -
I’m shocked at this. Shocked.insinceredawg said:The Dawgman and 247 guys are not holding any punches back now that Jimmy is gone.
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Yup. All offseason they were defending the shitty recruiting and mocking any posters that expressed concern. Kim's favorite line was "UW is favored in every game this year but some here are upset about recruiting". It was excuse after excuse ...no visits, covid evaluations are flawed, it's a small class, etc. Now they're acting as if they had been on him this whole time. Fuck those guys.CheersWestDawg said:
I’m shocked at this. Shocked.insinceredawg said:The Dawgman and 247 guys are not holding any punches back now that Jimmy is gone.
