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Was Jimmy just lazy?

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  • BlayenBlayen Member Posts: 106

    Arrogance seems like the most logical answer.

    I think this is it. I think he really felt that they could recruit just about any player and coach them up and win championships. Why battle the big boys for talent when you can get average guys and make them great?

  • Kingdome_UrinalsKingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,757
    Personnel decisions were terrible. He has no eye for talent, at all.

  • dtddtd Member Posts: 5,041 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2021

    He thought being the big leader would be easy. He thought he was a living, breathing special sauce. He had no idea what it took to lead a complex organization like a P5 football team.

    He's a guy who had his ass kissed every step of the way and had no drive to be a great HC. Because he already thought he was a great HC, without proving anything.

    He probably actually thought he was bigger than the job, and bigger than UW.

    He is that big of an idiot.

    Trying and competing and accepting "no" from recruits or criticism from outside the program made him triple down on his own decisions in paranoid/deeply insecure fashion.

    He coached with Pete at UW for 6 years, and at BSU for 2. He was DB coach under Raheem Morris in Tampa Bay for 2 years, but he thought it would be easy? He had no idea what he was getting into? Sounds like bullshit. Maybe he just got peter principled.
  • AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,161 Standard Supporter

    There was this one guy early on who pointed that out. What was his name?

    Detlef
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,931
    dtd said:

    He thought being the big leader would be easy. He thought he was a living, breathing special sauce. He had no idea what it took to lead a complex organization like a P5 football team.

    He's a guy who had his ass kissed every step of the way and had no drive to be a great HC. Because he already thought he was a great HC, without proving anything.

    He probably actually thought he was bigger than the job, and bigger than UW.

    He is that big of an idiot.

    Trying and competing and accepting "no" from recruits or criticism from outside the program made him triple down on his own decisions in paranoid/deeply insecure fashion.

    He coached with Pete at UW for 6 years, and at BSU for 2. He was DB coach under Raheem Morris in Tampa Bay for 2 years, but he thought it would be easy? He had no idea what he was getting into? Sounds like bullshit. Maybe he just got peter principled.
    Could go either way

    One thing about Jimmy is that he’s never run a large organization on his own prior to being the HC … yes he was DC but I suspect it was more K mentoring Jimmy and Jimmy being the young dumb college grad that thinks he knows everything type situation

    Arrogance is the ultimate downfall … it’s the “I’m Jimmy Lake” and everything will work out

    I have no question that he would have parlayed UW into a NFL job if he could have … everything about his history suggests that he was massively enamored with the NFL

    When your desire to recruit goes away it’s time to head to the NFL
  • CanadawgCanadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,944 Swaye's Wigwam
    Isnt a HC in cfb more like a GM than a traditional HC at the NFL or HS level? Like most of your work isn't related to the actual coaching and gamecalling. Seems like they are different skillsets in alot of ways and why hiring a career coordinator to HC will always be a gamble
  • NeGgaPlEaSeNeGgaPlEaSe Member Posts: 5,730
    Sounds like is he is a smug asshole who didn’t want to keep the program Pete set up even in terms of recruiting. Sounds like he was a lazy fuck who didn’t take responsibility
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,725

    He thought being the big leader would be easy. He thought he was a living, breathing special sauce. He had no idea what it took to lead a complex organization like a P5 football team.

    He's a guy who had his ass kissed every step of the way and had no drive to be a great HC. Because he already thought he was a great HC, without proving anything.

    He probably actually thought he was bigger than the job, and bigger than UW.

    He is that big of an idiot.

    Trying and competing and accepting "no" from recruits or criticism from outside the program made him triple down on his own decisions in paranoid/deeply insecure fashion.

    He thought he was Mario... he isn't even a mini me version of him
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,725

    No, Jimmy wasn't lazy, something that could have racist connotations when used in a questionable conjunction with an African American, far from it. If anything Jimmy was overzealous in his coaching approach leading the program. The social media presence doesn't fall directly on him but the UW athletic department as well since they manage a lot of the social media accounts and media relations as we saw with all of the negative Jimmy Lake stories that kept on coming out in the recent days.

    Jimmy made a very bad decision by hiring the secretarial assistant to the assistant RB coach from Jacksonville in Jon Donovan, a person no one was looking to hire as an OC at any level, as his OC on UW TE coach Derham Cato's recommendation. Then his seemingly refusal to fire him made a lot of people question his leadership abilities aloud.

    Jimmy was one of a very few African American coaches to have a college football head coaching job at the NCAA D1 level and at a power 5 university at that which is a even rarer sight in the NCAA in 2021 https://theundefeated.com/features/even-with-the-recent-push-for-diversity-fewer-black-coaches-getting-top-fbs-head-coaching-jobs/ .

    Jimmy should have surrounded himself with a better qualified staff and that is all on him no one else as he had the power to select his staff. Jimmy may well be very well off financially now but he will most likely never be a NCAA D1 head coach again.

    Stop with the racial BS
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,725
    edited November 2021
    FireCohen said:

    Heard a rumor that he thought they were cake walk their schedule and that his agent was already throwing his name out there in NFL circles as early as June.

    If this is true. Got to love they way god can really humble a person. Dude got handed a Top 25 program HC job and he just pissed it away.
    Crazy if true, I hope he wasn't that dumb. Plus how disrespectful to CP!
  • TXDawgTXDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 847 Founders Club
    Jimmy is probably just like guys we've all worked for before. They're more interested in being the guy in charge than they are of actually doing the work of the guy in charge.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,531 Standard Supporter

    Jimmy is like your classical millennial with two years of work experience that has mastered their specific job. Thinks because they know how to do the job that they should be running the department and managing people.

    Jimmy doesn’t know how to grind or face adversity. We all saw what happened when he lost his shit on national TV. So yes, he’s entitled, delusional and lazy

    The Throbber is not the most woke person on the boards - but 'lazy' implies some kind of racial overtone in today's world.

    Complacent, lackadaisical, inattentive - probably more socially acceptable. All stemming from the aforementioned arrogance.

    Somehow it seems Jimmy bided his time like Eddie Haskell ingratiating himself into the Peterman pysche - all the while with the mindset of "When I'm the head guy, all this bullshit is out the window".

    It's hard to fathom otherwise.

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