Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
If an AD sees her staff member making a colossal mistake, you intervene. This is not difficult.
Intervene how?
Jesus Christ Teq.
It’s a simple question
I’m asking you to clarify as to not jump to conclusions
If I’m jumping to conclusions I’d expect you to say that if you were the AD you would have blocked and not signed off on the hire
If I'm running a business, and I see an employee making a terrible decision, I intervene.
Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
If an AD sees her staff member making a colossal mistake, you intervene. This is not difficult.
Intervene how?
Jesus Christ Teq.
It’s a simple question
I’m asking you to clarify as to not jump to conclusions
If I’m jumping to conclusions I’d expect you to say that if you were the AD you would have blocked and not signed off on the hire
Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
If an AD sees her staff member making a colossal mistake, you intervene. This is not difficult.
Intervene how?
Jesus Christ Teq.
It’s a simple question
I’m asking you to clarify as to not jump to conclusions
If I’m jumping to conclusions I’d expect you to say that if you were the AD you would have blocked and not signed off on the hire
If I'm running a business, and I see an employee making a terrible decision, I intervene.
So you’re going to micro manage your employees
It’s an approach
Shut up.
You don't know shit on the subject so piss off.
I know way more than you think
If you’re having to do what DJ is thinking should have done … it’s a bad strategy long term
What that is saying is that you hired the wrong person to start with
The JonDon hire isn’t about JonDon … it was about Jimmy
The JonDon hire, the firings of your recruiting/support staff, pushing out K … all of that shows that Jimmy was clueless at the job of being a head coach
If you’re going to be Jimmy’s boss and tell him he can’t make a hire … you might as well fire him right then and there
Not many high level football coaches are going to agree to the AD having final say in how they fill out their staff. That's a great way to scare off anyone who is remotely qualified.
CEO's ask what their budget is and they fill out their team how they see fit within that budget.
Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
If an AD sees her staff member making a colossal mistake, you intervene. This is not difficult.
Intervene how?
Jesus Christ Teq.
It’s a simple question
I’m asking you to clarify as to not jump to conclusions
If I’m jumping to conclusions I’d expect you to say that if you were the AD you would have blocked and not signed off on the hire
If I'm running a business, and I see an employee making a terrible decision, I intervene.
So you’re going to micro manage your employees
It’s an approach
Shut up.
You don't know shit on the subject so piss off.
I know way more than you think
If you’re having to do what DJ is thinking should have done … it’s a bad strategy long term
What that is saying is that you hired the wrong person to start with
The JonDon hire isn’t about JonDon … it was about Jimmy
The JonDon hire, the firings of your recruiting/support staff, pushing out K … all of that shows that Jimmy was clueless at the job of being a head coach
If you’re going to be Jimmy’s boss and tell him he can’t make a hire … you might as well fire him right then and there
That’s the point
Long term.
Shut the fuck up.
No one even remembers UW prison fucking Meat in 2017.
Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
If an AD sees her staff member making a colossal mistake, you intervene. This is not difficult.
Intervene how?
Jesus Christ Teq.
It’s a simple question
I’m asking you to clarify as to not jump to conclusions
If I’m jumping to conclusions I’d expect you to say that if you were the AD you would have blocked and not signed off on the hire
If I'm running a business, and I see an employee making a terrible decision, I intervene.
So you’re going to micro manage your employees
It’s an approach
Making a hire that could crater an entire season = micromanaging
Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
If an AD sees her staff member making a colossal mistake, you intervene. This is not difficult.
Intervene how?
Jesus Christ Teq.
It’s a simple question
I’m asking you to clarify as to not jump to conclusions
If I’m jumping to conclusions I’d expect you to say that if you were the AD you would have blocked and not signed off on the hire
If I'm running a business, and I see an employee making a terrible decision, I intervene.
So you’re going to micro manage your employees
It’s an approach
Making a hire that could crater an entire season = micromanaging
Sure buddy
Dude pretends like he's had to manage anyone, let alone a white collar employee.
Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
If an AD sees her staff member making a colossal mistake, you intervene. This is not difficult.
Intervene how?
Jesus Christ Teq.
It’s a simple question
I’m asking you to clarify as to not jump to conclusions
If I’m jumping to conclusions I’d expect you to say that if you were the AD you would have blocked and not signed off on the hire
If I'm running a business, and I see an employee making a terrible decision, I intervene.
So you’re going to micro manage your employees
It’s an approach
Shut up.
You don't know shit on the subject so piss off.
His TCU MBA in business administration says otherwise pal!
Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
If an AD sees her staff member making a colossal mistake, you intervene. This is not difficult.
Intervene how?
Jesus Christ Teq.
It’s a simple question
I’m asking you to clarify as to not jump to conclusions
If I’m jumping to conclusions I’d expect you to say that if you were the AD you would have blocked and not signed off on the hire
If I'm running a business, and I see an employee making a terrible decision, I intervene.
So you’re going to micro manage your employees
It’s an approach
Shut up.
You don't know shit on the subject so piss off.
His TCU MBA in business administration says otherwise pal!
He's an analyst that is secluded from the non post grads.
There's a value in that too. Obviously.
But like elite developers and all sorts of people he hangs around with, you can't make personnel decisions off of that.
Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
No. But you didn’t have to be an expert to know that was a dumb idea to hire jondon. A simple google search shows that it was a stupid idea.
The contract terms and understanding of leverage shows her lack of intelligence related to Jondon
Completely agree that JD is one of the worst hired in CFB history, but coaches get paid what they get paid. UW isn’t hiring an OC for 500k with a defensive head coach. I would hate him the same if he made 100k.
Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
If an AD sees her staff member making a colossal mistake, you intervene. This is not difficult.
Intervene how?
Jesus Christ Teq.
It’s a simple question
I’m asking you to clarify as to not jump to conclusions
If I’m jumping to conclusions I’d expect you to say that if you were the AD you would have blocked and not signed off on the hire
If I'm running a business, and I see an employee making a terrible decision, I intervene.
So you’re going to micro manage your employees
It’s an approach
Making a hire that could crater an entire season = micromanaging
Sure buddy
With all due respect DJ, comments like this from you (and others) are ones where I just shake my head and sigh because this just isn’t how business is done.
Mr Anus gave a really good reason why what you and others are suggesting doesn’t work
Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
If an AD sees her staff member making a colossal mistake, you intervene. This is not difficult.
Intervene how?
Jesus Christ Teq.
It’s a simple question
I’m asking you to clarify as to not jump to conclusions
If I’m jumping to conclusions I’d expect you to say that if you were the AD you would have blocked and not signed off on the hire
If I'm running a business, and I see an employee making a terrible decision, I intervene.
So you’re going to micro manage your employees
It’s an approach
Making a hire that could crater an entire season = micromanaging
Sure buddy
Dude pretends like he's had to manage anyone, let alone a white collar employee.
😂👍
You have a lot of anger and resentment in your life … might want to work on that
Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
If an AD sees her staff member making a colossal mistake, you intervene. This is not difficult.
Intervene how?
Jesus Christ Teq.
It’s a simple question
I’m asking you to clarify as to not jump to conclusions
If I’m jumping to conclusions I’d expect you to say that if you were the AD you would have blocked and not signed off on the hire
If I'm running a business, and I see an employee making a terrible decision, I intervene.
So you’re going to micro manage your employees
It’s an approach
Shut up.
You don't know shit on the subject so piss off.
His TCU MBA in business administration says otherwise pal!
He's an analyst that is secluded from the non post grads.
There's a value in that too. Obviously.
But like elite developers and all sorts of people he hangs around with, you can't make personnel decisions off of that.
Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
If an AD sees her staff member making a colossal mistake, you intervene. This is not difficult.
Intervene how?
Jesus Christ Teq.
It’s a simple question
I’m asking you to clarify as to not jump to conclusions
If I’m jumping to conclusions I’d expect you to say that if you were the AD you would have blocked and not signed off on the hire
If I'm running a business, and I see an employee making a terrible decision, I intervene.
So you’re going to micro manage your employees
It’s an approach
Making a hire that could crater an entire season = micromanaging
Sure buddy
Dude pretends like he's had to manage anyone, let alone a white collar employee.
😂👍
You have a lot of anger and resentment in your life … might want to work on that
Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
If an AD sees her staff member making a colossal mistake, you intervene. This is not difficult.
Intervene how?
Jesus Christ Teq.
It’s a simple question
I’m asking you to clarify as to not jump to conclusions
If I’m jumping to conclusions I’d expect you to say that if you were the AD you would have blocked and not signed off on the hire
If I'm running a business, and I see an employee making a terrible decision, I intervene.
So you’re going to micro manage your employees
It’s an approach
Making a hire that could crater an entire season = micromanaging
Sure buddy
With all due respect DJ, comments like this from you (and others) are ones where I just shake my head and sigh because this just isn’t how business is done.
Mr Anus gave a really good reason why what you and others are suggesting doesn’t work
Whatever
This the part where you think you’re the only one that has any business acumen or Experience with corporate structure. You come across as arrogant and a try hard when you do this like every few months.
Boards, executives and other senior management put an end to bad hiring and other decisions before they ever happen regardless if they report directly to them or not. That’s common sense, not micro Managing. JonDon was not a realistic hire for anyone in a p-5 conference.
Jen had a no-brainer hire of Eric Musselman and instead hires a guy who couldn’t take over for a coach who pees himself. She hired Jimmy without having any knowledge/oversite in making him successful…the John Donovan hire should never have happened because any competent AD would have put a stop to it.
The idea of her hiring anyone should frighten everyone.
So Jen’s supposed to be the expert on OC hires?
It was a questionable at best hire at the time and the disaster it turned out to be was a contributing factor in Jimmy getting rightfully fired
But having an AD overtly micro manage hiring decisions by her directs … that’s not how things work
I’m plenty critical of Jen but not in this regard … that’s 1000% on Jimmy
If an AD sees her staff member making a colossal mistake, you intervene. This is not difficult.
Intervene how?
Jesus Christ Teq.
It’s a simple question
I’m asking you to clarify as to not jump to conclusions
If I’m jumping to conclusions I’d expect you to say that if you were the AD you would have blocked and not signed off on the hire
If I'm running a business, and I see an employee making a terrible decision, I intervene.
So you’re going to micro manage your employees
It’s an approach
Making a hire that could crater an entire season = micromanaging
Sure buddy
With all due respect DJ, comments like this from you (and others) are ones where I just shake my head and sigh because this just isn’t how business is done.
Mr Anus gave a really good reason why what you and others are suggesting doesn’t work
Whatever
This the part where you think you’re the only one that has any business acumen or Experience with corporate structure. You come across as arrogant and a try hard when you do this like every few months.
Boards, executives and other senior management put an end to bad hiring and other decisions before they ever happen regardless if they report directly to them or not. That’s common sense, not micro Managing. JonDon was not a realistic hire for anyone in a p-5 conference.
Respect your opinion but you couldn’t be more wrong about my motives or whatnot
I share my experiences in instances like this because of what I’ve seen, discussions I’ve been involved in, outcomes, etc to sensitive information and discussions throughout my career going as high and low in all types of organizations. If people have other experiences I welcome that discussion as by no means do I expect to have the market covered there
Jen’s the C-level executive to Athletics. She’s got people she’s accountable to in terms of hiring decisions that she makes. Generally speaking, again based on my experience, people at that level if they present a candidate they are generally going to be approved … for example, AMC may have a conversation prior to hiring but the BoR won’t. The conversation with AMC would have to go massively sideways for her to block the hire. AMC’s work in the hire would predominately be before the hire at most in providing Jen the support she needs in making the hire. Now, if we are talking about hiring an AD. who is a direct report to AMC her influence in the process would dramatically increase.
The head coaches in Athletics are effectively varying levels of VPs with football being the most influential of the VPs. An ADs role here is ensuring that their direct report has all of the resources needed to be successful in making their hires. It’s not the ADs job per se to interview the candidate and similar to the above example, may have a brief conversation prior to hiring.
At either level of an organization, you hire the AD and you hire the HC to do their jobs and run the business effectively.
Obviously, not all hires work out. When they don’t the hiring individual feels heat depending on how egregious the hire was. As we just saw with Jimmy Lake the JonDon hire was a significant factor in his firing.
Now, what you’re describing in terms of managers blocking hires I’ve seen frequently but are typically at lower levels of an organization whether it be tied to the Manager/Sr Manager levels and promotions (which can occur at most levels).
None of us are privy to what conversations Jen and Jimmy had. Most public comments from Jen when asked about funding was that Jimmy had everything he asked for. It’s incredibly rare to publicly hear of an AD firing assistant coaches, blocking their hires, or nixing promotions … all of that falls to the Head Coach.
Again, I welcome anybody to share experiences that are different as I certainly do not have any market covered here … I can’t reiterate enough that the opinions I share on this are based on my experiences tied to organizational decision making in a wide variety of companies big and small. Those experiences generally speaking have similar dynamics across all the types of companies I’ve been involved with.
You can take or leave my opinions on stuff like this and that’s fine … it’s no skin off my back either way
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You don't know shit on the subject so piss off.
If you’re having to do what DJ is thinking should have done … it’s a bad strategy long term
What that is saying is that you hired the wrong person to start with
The JonDon hire isn’t about JonDon … it was about Jimmy
The JonDon hire, the firings of your recruiting/support staff, pushing out K … all of that shows that Jimmy was clueless at the job of being a head coach
If you’re going to be Jimmy’s boss and tell him he can’t make a hire … you might as well fire him right then and there
That’s the point
CEO's ask what their budget is and they fill out their team how they see fit within that budget.
Shut the fuck up.
No one even remembers UW prison fucking Meat in 2017.
Long term means nothing.
Sure buddy
😂👍
There's a value in that too. Obviously.
But like elite developers and all sorts of people he hangs around with, you can't make personnel decisions off of that.
Mr Anus gave a really good reason why what you and others are suggesting doesn’t work
Whatever
Let's not forget he retired for a reason. Just because you were great once doesn't mean the evolution of the game won't catch up to you some day.
Boards, executives and other senior management put an end to bad hiring and other decisions before they ever happen regardless if they report directly to them or not. That’s common sense, not micro
Managing. JonDon was not a realistic hire for anyone in a p-5 conference.
I share my experiences in instances like this because of what I’ve seen, discussions I’ve been involved in, outcomes, etc to sensitive information and discussions throughout my career going as high and low in all types of organizations. If people have other experiences I welcome that discussion as by no means do I expect to have the market covered there
Jen’s the C-level executive to Athletics. She’s got people she’s accountable to in terms of hiring decisions that she makes. Generally speaking, again based on my experience, people at that level if they present a candidate they are generally going to be approved … for example, AMC may have a conversation prior to hiring but the BoR won’t. The conversation with AMC would have to go massively sideways for her to block the hire. AMC’s work in the hire would predominately be before the hire at most in providing Jen the support she needs in making the hire. Now, if we are talking about hiring an AD. who is a direct report to AMC her influence in the process would dramatically increase.
The head coaches in Athletics are effectively varying levels of VPs with football being the most influential of the VPs. An ADs role here is ensuring that their direct report has all of the resources needed to be successful in making their hires. It’s not the ADs job per se to interview the candidate and similar to the above example, may have a brief conversation prior to hiring.
At either level of an organization, you hire the AD and you hire the HC to do their jobs and run the business effectively.
Obviously, not all hires work out. When they don’t the hiring individual feels heat depending on how egregious the hire was. As we just saw with Jimmy Lake the JonDon hire was a significant factor in his firing.
Now, what you’re describing in terms of managers blocking hires I’ve seen frequently but are typically at lower levels of an organization whether it be tied to the Manager/Sr Manager levels and promotions (which can occur at most levels).
None of us are privy to what conversations Jen and Jimmy had. Most public comments from Jen when asked about funding was that Jimmy had everything he asked for. It’s incredibly rare to publicly hear of an AD firing assistant coaches, blocking their hires, or nixing promotions … all of that falls to the Head Coach.
Again, I welcome anybody to share experiences that are different as I certainly do not have any market covered here … I can’t reiterate enough that the opinions I share on this are based on my experiences tied to organizational decision making in a wide variety of companies big and small. Those experiences generally speaking have similar dynamics across all the types of companies I’ve been involved with.
You can take or leave my opinions on stuff like this and that’s fine … it’s no skin off my back either way
It means so fucking much to that guy….