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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,358
    dnc said:

    Jdawg1991 said:

    BTP is right in this case. Kirkland is not good. That said, he was defending Asa Turner til the end.

    He sucks. I stopped defending him last year. He’s a nightmare in coverage.



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    These actually aged pretty well. Turner was solid this year. We were a 100% better defense when he played.
    Turner is not good but he is the tallest midget.
  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942

    dnc said:

    Jdawg1991 said:

    BTP is right in this case. Kirkland is not good. That said, he was defending Asa Turner til the end.

    He sucks. I stopped defending him last year. He’s a nightmare in coverage.



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    These actually aged pretty well. Turner was solid this year. We were a 100% better defense when he played.
    Turner is not good but he is the tallest midget.
    He's the reason I don't want another kid from San Diego on our roster ever again. Soft soft soft but he's pretty okay in coverage.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    dnc said:

    Jdawg1991 said:

    BTP is right in this case. Kirkland is not good. That said, he was defending Asa Turner til the end.

    He sucks. I stopped defending him last year. He’s a nightmare in coverage.



    Receipts
    These actually aged pretty well. Turner was solid this year. We were a 100% better defense when he played.
    Turner is not good but he is the tallest midget.
    He's a below average tackler but good at everything else - coverage, diagnosis, ball skills, etc.
  • DerekJohnson
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855


    Matt Damon's greatest role

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    fudgie is like Trump in that the volume of absurd shit that he spews is so large that you just get numb to it all and forget some of the obscenities. Love that we're bumping back these trips down memory lane.


  • backthepack
    backthepack Member Posts: 19,942
    dnc said:

    He's so good he got moved to a guard as a 6th year senior.

    Willing to move for the good of the team as a 6th year senior.

    You and KP are wrong on Kirkland. I think he's good more than great but he's definitely good.
    He's pretty good for a college guard, our complaints were when he was starting over Troy at LT. When Troy's clearly an NFL tackle and Kirkland is not.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,358
    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Jdawg1991 said:

    BTP is right in this case. Kirkland is not good. That said, he was defending Asa Turner til the end.

    He sucks. I stopped defending him last year. He’s a nightmare in coverage.



    Receipts
    These actually aged pretty well. Turner was solid this year. We were a 100% better defense when he played.
    Turner is not good but he is the tallest midget.
    He's a below average tackler but good at everything else - coverage, diagnosis, ball skills, etc.
    Putting yourself in position to miss the tackle is a special quality. I don’t know who, but someone actually showed how he diagnosed plays pretty well vs Oregon only to whiff on tackles. But it’s not like anyone else better. It’s like the rest of the db’s are surprised by whatever route the wr’s are running every time (this is why i am not sold that it’s just a talent issue with the defense). If we were a real contender next year someone like that can’t start on your defense.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    Jdawg1991 said:

    BTP is right in this case. Kirkland is not good. That said, he was defending Asa Turner til the end.

    He sucks. I stopped defending him last year. He’s a nightmare in coverage.



    Receipts
    These actually aged pretty well. Turner was solid this year. We were a 100% better defense when he played.
    Turner is not good but he is the tallest midget.
    He's a below average tackler but good at everything else - coverage, diagnosis, ball skills, etc.
    Putting yourself in position to miss the tackle is a special quality. I don’t know who, but someone actually showed how he diagnosed plays pretty well vs Oregon only to whiff on tackles. But it’s not like anyone else better. It’s like the rest of the db’s are surprised by whatever route the wr’s are running every time (this is why i am not sold that it’s just a talent issue with the defense). If we were a real contender next year someone like that can’t start on your defense.
    I'm fine with that assessment. He's the ability to tackle away from being all conference. That's obviously an important ability. I'll be thrilled if we have someone better for the position next year because that will be a pretty damn good player. But mostly think Turner get singled out too much. He's not the issue with the defense.

    I'm very glad he didn't portal out.