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Harvard breakthrough infections

jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
edited September 2021 in Tug Tavern
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  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,939
    Never was about stopping cases

    One big mistake was this fixation on cases … it’s distorted what success looks like
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Make everyone go virtual, cases decline, everyone comes back, cases spike, everyone back to virtual.

    What’s the takeaway? Vaccinated infect the vaccinated.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886
    Tequilla said:

    Never was about stopping cases

    One big mistake was this fixation on cases … it’s distorted what success looks like

    Please describe the success in the jab then. Because as one that chose to get it. I feel hoodwinked and bamboozled.
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    As soon as we get to 98% of EVERYONE vaccinated, we can go back to normal.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,449 Standard Supporter
    Israel is the most vaxed country on the planet. Covid rages! It's a feature!
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,939
    Kaepsknee said:

    Tequilla said:

    Never was about stopping cases

    One big mistake was this fixation on cases … it’s distorted what success looks like

    Please describe the success in the jab then. Because as one that chose to get it. I feel hoodwinked and bamboozled.
    The goal posts have been moved way too much … living on the West Coast anybody that thought things were opening up were foolish

    The reason to get vaccinated to me resides in the data around positive cases that head to hospitalizations, ICUs, and worse.

    Anybody that thinks that COVID is just going to vanish is likely fooling themselves
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    When this whole thing started I would check out the Oregon Health Authority Covid tracker dashboard. It was obvious from the beginning who was at risk. Anyone with a functioning brain could read the data and figure out who we needed to protect. But that wasn't the goal. Don't think for a minute this was about public health. If any of you read the Spartacus PDF that poasted here, it's plain as day.
  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
    None of this was about public health. Simply a power and control grab.

    A close friend lost two people in their extended 70's with comorbidities. Hospital refused to treat with Vitamin C drip and Ivermectin based on internal protocol. Both died alone. Would not allow spouse visitation. The hospital did honor one request of the family and that was not to treat with Remdesivir which kills people. Fauci of course pushes Remdesivir.

    Here is a trial Remdisivir was used for Ebola. It was pulled halfway through the study.
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31022-9/fulltext

    Remdesivir study on Covid. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.15.20209817v1
    HCQ is in there but they later learned the dosing was incorrect. HCQ is an effective treatment.






  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Why treat with cheap effective HCQ when the gov't will pay for $3000 worthless Foo Chee juice?
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,939

    Tequilla said:

    Never was about stopping cases

    One big mistake was this fixation on cases … it’s distorted what success looks like

    It wasn't a mistake
    And that’s why there is in part a lot of distrust in the government
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    I encourage people to ask their Doc what is their COVID protocol for treatment. I did. Basically go home, do the usual flu routine and if it gets bad, head to the hospital and they'll treat with their COVID protocol. I was dismayed to say the least. Why hasn't the CDC established guidelines for Primary Care? They have established guidelines for everything. No money for the hospitals if you're treated early and effectively.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,823 Standard Supporter
    Is it a call for genocide if there's a desire the entire Ivy League gets consumed in a massive tidal surge wiping out most of the eastern seaboard?



  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,709 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    I encourage people to ask their Doc what is their COVID protocol for treatment. I did. Basically go home, do the usual flu routine and if it gets bad, head to the hospital and they'll treat with their COVID protocol. I was dismayed to say the least. Why hasn't the CDC established guidelines for Primary Care? They have established guidelines for everything. No money for the hospitals if you're treated early and effectively.

    Shows how cowed the supposed medical experts (MDs) dedicated to science and treatment are in a modern leftard environment. Assuming that the number of covid deaths is accurate (it isn't) literally a hundred thousand+ Americans are dead because of the protocol not to treat the chicom crud until you need to be hospitalized.
  • jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,727
    People are left to searching out particular supplements to boost the immune system because people don't trust the medical system for proper treatment. Unless of course, you take the "silver bullet" jab. I believe even before covid 250,000 people die a year due to malpractice in the hospital. One life goal I have is to avoid the hospital as much humanely possible.

    And the government tells the vaccinated to live life but oh wait you can die. Many older vaccinated people are dying.
    https://nypost.com/2021/09/28/vaccinated-michigan-couple-die-of-covid-19-holding-hands/

  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,939
    jecornel said:

    People are left to searching out particular supplements to boost the immune system because people don't trust the medical system for proper treatment. Unless of course, you take the "silver bullet" jab. I believe even before covid 250,000 people die a year due to malpractice in the hospital. One life goal I have is to avoid the hospital as much humanely possible.

    And the government tells the vaccinated to live life but oh wait you can die. Many older vaccinated people are dying.
    https://nypost.com/2021/09/28/vaccinated-michigan-couple-die-of-covid-19-holding-hands/

    Yep

    Lots of people are all about how does one get the most medication in them as possible when needed … I know people when they get sick immediately go get treatment immediately vs taking the sickness for what it is and your body telling you that it needs some rest

    I leverage a single daily pill and I don’t like that I do that … but big picture I pretty much have no choice in the matter

    Less is more
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