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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,476 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    Tequilla said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    Tequilla said:

    Never was about stopping cases

    One big mistake was this fixation on cases … it’s distorted what success looks like

    Please describe the success in the jab then. Because as one that chose to get it. I feel hoodwinked and bamboozled.
    The goal posts have been moved way too much … living on the West Coast anybody that thought things were opening up were foolish

    The reason to get vaccinated to me resides in the data around positive cases that head to hospitalizations, ICUs, and worse.

    Anybody that thinks that COVID is just going to vanish is likely fooling themselves
    There is little to no data on the amount of cases amongst the vaxxed and unvaxxed that DONT lead to Hospitalization. Only breakdowns of those that were hospitalized. And many if not most hospitals test any admitted patients. And if they are admitted for something unrelated to covid but test positive for covid, they are a Covid Hospitalization.

    Doesn’t it seem funny to you that we are able to ramrod a vaccine through but here 19 months later, there is few APPROVED effective therapies?

    When there is study after study that prove cheap off label therapies are incredibly effective in early stages?
    This is the stuff that bothers me but I realize I’m inclined to think logically and constantly ask why

    The genie is out of the bottle with COVID … it ain’t going to just flat vanish regardless of vaccination … there’s just not data out there that I’ve seen that suggests that

    So to me all the focus should be tied to 1) how do you minimize symptoms and 2) how do you treat bad symptoms to avoid the worst of the outcomes

    This to me in various forms is a substitution of the flu but more contagious with potentially worse outcomes … it just is what it is
    Prophylactic IVM.

    You're welcome.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,861 Standard Supporter
    They stopped recording vaxed cases. They are the big spike. Look at Israel.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,997 Standard Supporter
    edited September 2021
    46XiJCAB said:

    I encourage people to ask their Doc what is their COVID protocol for treatment. I did. Basically go home, do the usual flu routine and if it gets bad, head to the hospital and they'll treat with their COVID protocol. I was dismayed to say the least. Why hasn't the CDC established guidelines for Primary Care? They have established guidelines for everything. No money for the hospitals if you're treated early and effectively.

    My doc said to use monoclonal antibodies.... I'm sick now waiting on results tomorrow. But it's probably a cold... but since I have asthma I am cautious and got tested.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter

    King County #'s published by the Dept of Health.

    Overcrowded ICUs? There are 21 Hospitals in King County.

    Cancer patients and gunshot victims can't get care they need?

    Fucking BULLSHIT.

    National news narratives do not reflect the facts on the ground in my community.

    But it's illegal, apparently, to contravene the Narrative with facts.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter

    King County Death by Covid #'s
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Goduckies said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I encourage people to ask their Doc what is their COVID protocol for treatment. I did. Basically go home, do the usual flu routine and if it gets bad, head to the hospital and they'll treat with their COVID protocol. I was dismayed to say the least. Why hasn't the CDC established guidelines for Primary Care? They have established guidelines for everything. No money for the hospitals if you're treated early and effectively.

    My doc said to use monoclonal antibodies.... I'm sick now waiting on results tomorrow. But it's probably a cold... but since I have asthma I am cautious and got tested.
    Hopefully it's not the vid. Do some reading on asthmatics and Covid. There's a lot of data and studies out there. It'll make you feel better.
  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,997 Standard Supporter
    I am positive Joy
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,729 Founders Club
    edited September 2021


    King County #'s published by the Dept of Health.

    Overcrowded ICUs? There are 21 Hospitals in King County.

    Cancer patients and gunshot victims can't get care they need?

    Fucking BULLSHIT.

    National news narratives do not reflect the facts on the ground in my community.

    But it's illegal, apparently, to contravene the Narrative with facts.


    The overwhelmed hospital thing is nonsense. This current spike is no bigger than any of the previous ones, which never had close to real capacity issues. And simply counting a hospitalized case as binary says nothing to the resources being consumed.

    If there are capacity and resource issues, why isn’t the president opening up field hospitals or sending the navy ships?
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    It's more than likely BS. It could also be that Trump was able to formulate a plan and utilize resources in crunch time, while Joey talks about "shutting down the virus" and does nothing but issue mandates. VACCINES! FTG.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    Hey turd bomber. Can you provide a link to that excel sheet?
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    edited September 2021
    jecornel said:

    Hey turd bomber. Can you provide a link to that excel sheet?

    Go to the way cool King County Covid "Dashboard" site. (Everybody's got a Dashboard now, or they're not in the cool kids club.)

    https://kingcounty.gov/depts/health/covid-19/data/daily-summary.aspx

    Go to "Download Covid 19 Data Files" and you should find the links.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter
    Bob_C said:


    King County #'s published by the Dept of Health.

    Overcrowded ICUs? There are 21 Hospitals in King County.

    Cancer patients and gunshot victims can't get care they need?

    Fucking BULLSHIT.

    National news narratives do not reflect the facts on the ground in my community.

    But it's illegal, apparently, to contravene the Narrative with facts.


    The overwhelmed hospital thing is nonsense. This current spike is no bigger than any of the previous ones, which never had close to real capacity issues. And simply counting a hospitalized case as binary says nothing to the resources being consumed.

    If there are capacity and resource issues, why isn’t the president opening up field hospitals or sending the navy ships?
    Staffing is the biggest issue, not space or beds. Those issues exist, but are far from a crisis.

    Yet we're about to lose hundreds or thousands of unvaccinated staff due to mandates, as our former healthcare heroes suddenly become lepers.

    Great governance, Inslee. Fucking Asshole.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,313 Standard Supporter
    Goduckies said:

    I am positive Joy

    T's and P's. Better write your eulogy.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    jecornel said:

    None of this was about public health. Simply a power and control grab.

    A close friend lost two people in their extended 70's with comorbidities. Hospital refused to treat with Vitamin C drip and Ivermectin based on internal protocol. Both died alone. Would not allow spouse visitation. The hospital did honor one request of the family and that was not to treat with Remdesivir which kills people. Fauci of course pushes Remdesivir.

    Here is a trial Remdisivir was used for Ebola. It was pulled halfway through the study.
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31022-9/fulltext

    Remdesivir study on Covid. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.15.20209817v1
    HCQ is in there but they later learned the dosing was incorrect. HCQ is an effective treatment.






    Isn't this what @BearsWiin was pushing?
    No - @BearsWiin is pushing a vacuum. Sometimes a carpet cleaner.



    Told the wife the backstory on BearsWin. Then read your poast. She had cover to keep from spitting her water, while holding back her laugh. Thanks!
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    She also tells me I need to stay off this site. Good thing I'm not a good listener.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,041 Standard Supporter

    46XiJCAB said:

    She also tells me I need to stay off this site. Good thing I'm not a good listener.

    Mrs. Throbber v2.0 axed 'What is this $129 charge for Hardcorehus" on your business credit card? Is that a porn site?"

    Swaye's gotta eat, don't he?