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Harvard breakthrough infections

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  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Never was about stopping cases

    One big mistake was this fixation on cases … it’s distorted what success looks like

    It wasn't a mistake
    And that’s why there is in part a lot of distrust in the government
    In part?

    I've not trusted the government since 1968 1963


    FTFY
    Visited this past April with the family. Had not stopped to see on previous trips but felt it was important for the kids to experience. Survived our weeklong whirlwind trip to Dallas/FW, Waco (shithole), SA and Houston. Did a lot of the things visitors do in each of these cities. Spent a lot of time around non-family members. We like Texas.

    Yup went directly into the den of the unvaxxed/unmasked and all I got was a damn cold. Even got tested for the Vid just to be sure. Negatory. Mask usage about 50/50. Didn't ask any strangers for their vaxxxx status. I'm not a Nazi.

    Apologies and condolences to anyone living in Waco poasting or just reading. You know I speak the truth.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,823 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Never was about stopping cases

    One big mistake was this fixation on cases … it’s distorted what success looks like

    It wasn't a mistake
    And that’s why there is in part a lot of distrust in the government
    In part?

    I've not trusted the government since 1968 1963


    FTFY
    Visited this past April with the family. Had not stopped to see on previous trips but felt it was important for the kids to experience. Survived our weeklong whirlwind trip to Dallas/FW, Waco (shithole), SA and Houston. Did a lot of the things visitors do in each of these cities. Spent a lot of time around non-family members. We like Texas.

    Yup went directly into the den of the unvaxxed/unmasked and all I got was a damn cold. Even got tested for the Vid just to be sure. Negatory. Mask usage about 50/50. Didn't ask any strangers for their vaxxxx status. I'm not a Nazi.

    Apologies and condolences to anyone living in Waco poasting or just reading. You know I speak the truth.
    Waco is a motherfucking dump. Drove however the fuck long from Austin to Chip and Joanna’s Magnolia place. Same crap one can buy at Target.

    That town makes Moses Lake look downright cosmopolitan.

  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Never was about stopping cases

    One big mistake was this fixation on cases … it’s distorted what success looks like

    It wasn't a mistake
    And that’s why there is in part a lot of distrust in the government
    In part?

    I've not trusted the government since 1968 1963


    FTFY
    Visited this past April with the family. Had not stopped to see on previous trips but felt it was important for the kids to experience. Survived our weeklong whirlwind trip to Dallas/FW, Waco (shithole), SA and Houston. Did a lot of the things visitors do in each of these cities. Spent a lot of time around non-family members. We like Texas.

    Yup went directly into the den of the unvaxxed/unmasked and all I got was a damn cold. Even got tested for the Vid just to be sure. Negatory. Mask usage about 50/50. Didn't ask any strangers for their vaxxxx status. I'm not a Nazi.

    Apologies and condolences to anyone living in Waco poasting or just reading. You know I speak the truth.
    Waco is a motherfucking dump. Drove however the fuck long from Austin to Chip and Joanna’s Magnolia place. Same crap one can buy at Target.

    That town makes Moses Lake look downright cosmopolitan.

    Only went there to visit a family member. Mag P was the obvious rendezvous. Fam got mad I called it a shithole. Would not apologize. Then fam member confirmed it was. Good times! Target price X5. That old joke, what's worse than spending a Friday night in Waco? Saturday. So true. Baylor is a dump.
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,939
    46XiJCAB said:

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Never was about stopping cases

    One big mistake was this fixation on cases … it’s distorted what success looks like

    It wasn't a mistake
    And that’s why there is in part a lot of distrust in the government
    In part?

    I've not trusted the government since 1968 1963


    FTFY
    Visited this past April with the family. Had not stopped to see on previous trips but felt it was important for the kids to experience. Survived our weeklong whirlwind trip to Dallas/FW, Waco (shithole), SA and Houston. Did a lot of the things visitors do in each of these cities. Spent a lot of time around non-family members. We like Texas.

    Yup went directly into the den of the unvaxxed/unmasked and all I got was a damn cold. Even got tested for the Vid just to be sure. Negatory. Mask usage about 50/50. Didn't ask any strangers for their vaxxxx status. I'm not a Nazi.

    Apologies and condolences to anyone living in Waco poasting or just reading. You know I speak the truth.
    Waco fucking sucks … there’s no way to spin it otherwise
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,178 Swaye's Wigwam
    jecornel said:

    None of this was about public health. Simply a power and control grab.

    A close friend lost two people in their extended 70's with comorbidities. Hospital refused to treat with Vitamin C drip and Ivermectin based on internal protocol. Both died alone. Would not allow spouse visitation. The hospital did honor one request of the family and that was not to treat with Remdesivir which kills people. Fauci of course pushes Remdesivir.

    Here is a trial Remdisivir was used for Ebola. It was pulled halfway through the study.
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31022-9/fulltext

    Remdesivir study on Covid. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.15.20209817v1
    HCQ is in there but they later learned the dosing was incorrect. HCQ is an effective treatment.






    Isn't this what @BearsWiin was pushing?
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,886
    edited September 2021
    Tequilla said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    Tequilla said:

    Never was about stopping cases

    One big mistake was this fixation on cases … it’s distorted what success looks like

    Please describe the success in the jab then. Because as one that chose to get it. I feel hoodwinked and bamboozled.
    The goal posts have been moved way too much … living on the West Coast anybody that thought things were opening up were foolish

    The reason to get vaccinated to me resides in the data around positive cases that head to hospitalizations, ICUs, and worse.

    Anybody that thinks that COVID is just going to vanish is likely fooling themselves
    There is little to no data on the amount of cases amongst the vaxxed and unvaxxed that DONT lead to Hospitalization. Only breakdowns of those that were hospitalized. And many if not most hospitals test any admitted patients. And if they are admitted for something unrelated to covid but test positive for covid, they are a Covid Hospitalization.

    Doesn’t it seem funny to you that we are able to ramrod a vaccine through but here 19 months later, there is few APPROVED effective therapies?

    When there is study after study that prove cheap off label therapies are incredibly effective in early stages?
  • TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,939
    Kaepsknee said:

    Tequilla said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    Tequilla said:

    Never was about stopping cases

    One big mistake was this fixation on cases … it’s distorted what success looks like

    Please describe the success in the jab then. Because as one that chose to get it. I feel hoodwinked and bamboozled.
    The goal posts have been moved way too much … living on the West Coast anybody that thought things were opening up were foolish

    The reason to get vaccinated to me resides in the data around positive cases that head to hospitalizations, ICUs, and worse.

    Anybody that thinks that COVID is just going to vanish is likely fooling themselves
    There is little to no data on the amount of cases amongst the vaxxed and unvaxxed that DONT lead to Hospitalization. Only breakdowns of those that were hospitalized. And many if not most hospitals test any admitted patients. And if they are admitted for something unrelated to covid but test positive for covid, they are a Covid Hospitalization.

    Doesn’t it seem funny to you that we are able to ramrod a vaccine through but here 19 months later, there is few APPROVED effective therapies?

    When there is study after study that prove cheap off label therapies are incredibly effective in early stages?
    This is the stuff that bothers me but I realize I’m inclined to think logically and constantly ask why

    The genie is out of the bottle with COVID … it ain’t going to just flat vanish regardless of vaccination … there’s just not data out there that I’ve seen that suggests that

    So to me all the focus should be tied to 1) how do you minimize symptoms and 2) how do you treat bad symptoms to avoid the worst of the outcomes

    This to me in various forms is a substitution of the flu but more contagious with potentially worse outcomes … it just is what it is
  • pawzpawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,262 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    Tequilla said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    Tequilla said:

    Never was about stopping cases

    One big mistake was this fixation on cases … it’s distorted what success looks like

    Please describe the success in the jab then. Because as one that chose to get it. I feel hoodwinked and bamboozled.
    The goal posts have been moved way too much … living on the West Coast anybody that thought things were opening up were foolish

    The reason to get vaccinated to me resides in the data around positive cases that head to hospitalizations, ICUs, and worse.

    Anybody that thinks that COVID is just going to vanish is likely fooling themselves
    There is little to no data on the amount of cases amongst the vaxxed and unvaxxed that DONT lead to Hospitalization. Only breakdowns of those that were hospitalized. And many if not most hospitals test any admitted patients. And if they are admitted for something unrelated to covid but test positive for covid, they are a Covid Hospitalization.

    Doesn’t it seem funny to you that we are able to ramrod a vaccine through but here 19 months later, there is few APPROVED effective therapies?

    When there is study after study that prove cheap off label therapies are incredibly effective in early stages?
    This is the stuff that bothers me but I realize I’m inclined to think logically and constantly ask why

    The genie is out of the bottle with COVID … it ain’t going to just flat vanish regardless of vaccination … there’s just not data out there that I’ve seen that suggests that

    So to me all the focus should be tied to 1) how do you minimize symptoms and 2) how do you treat bad symptoms to avoid the worst of the outcomes

    This to me in various forms is a substitution of the flu but more contagious with potentially worse outcomes … it just is what it is
    Prophylactic IVM.

    You're welcome.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,449 Standard Supporter
    They stopped recording vaxed cases. They are the big spike. Look at Israel.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,845
    edited September 2021
    46XiJCAB said:

    I encourage people to ask their Doc what is their COVID protocol for treatment. I did. Basically go home, do the usual flu routine and if it gets bad, head to the hospital and they'll treat with their COVID protocol. I was dismayed to say the least. Why hasn't the CDC established guidelines for Primary Care? They have established guidelines for everything. No money for the hospitals if you're treated early and effectively.

    My doc said to use monoclonal antibodies.... I'm sick now waiting on results tomorrow. But it's probably a cold... but since I have asthma I am cautious and got tested.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,988 Standard Supporter

    King County #'s published by the Dept of Health.

    Overcrowded ICUs? There are 21 Hospitals in King County.

    Cancer patients and gunshot victims can't get care they need?

    Fucking BULLSHIT.

    National news narratives do not reflect the facts on the ground in my community.

    But it's illegal, apparently, to contravene the Narrative with facts.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,988 Standard Supporter

    King County Death by Covid #'s
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Goduckies said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    I encourage people to ask their Doc what is their COVID protocol for treatment. I did. Basically go home, do the usual flu routine and if it gets bad, head to the hospital and they'll treat with their COVID protocol. I was dismayed to say the least. Why hasn't the CDC established guidelines for Primary Care? They have established guidelines for everything. No money for the hospitals if you're treated early and effectively.

    My doc said to use monoclonal antibodies.... I'm sick now waiting on results tomorrow. But it's probably a cold... but since I have asthma I am cautious and got tested.
    Hopefully it's not the vid. Do some reading on asthmatics and Covid. There's a lot of data and studies out there. It'll make you feel better.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,845
    I am positive Joy
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,922 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited September 2021


    King County #'s published by the Dept of Health.

    Overcrowded ICUs? There are 21 Hospitals in King County.

    Cancer patients and gunshot victims can't get care they need?

    Fucking BULLSHIT.

    National news narratives do not reflect the facts on the ground in my community.

    But it's illegal, apparently, to contravene the Narrative with facts.


    The overwhelmed hospital thing is nonsense. This current spike is no bigger than any of the previous ones, which never had close to real capacity issues. And simply counting a hospitalized case as binary says nothing to the resources being consumed.

    If there are capacity and resource issues, why isn’t the president opening up field hospitals or sending the navy ships?
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    It's more than likely BS. It could also be that Trump was able to formulate a plan and utilize resources in crunch time, while Joey talks about "shutting down the virus" and does nothing but issue mandates. VACCINES! FTG.
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