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Pac-12 Coaching Talent Down

The reason is the most successful guys (Carroll, Harbaugh, Chip) moved onto the NFL. The money is there for better assistants but we all know its the top guy that makes the entire staff. The conference is getting better players and better assistants but the most important part of that equation is a lot weaker than it was 5 years ago. As it is, Mora and Petersen to me are clearly the two best coaches in the conference with Rich Rod and Graham probably the next two. Petersen is clearly the best in the Pac-12 North. It bodes well for us over the next 5 years.

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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,758
    As usual the general perception of David Shaw is way low. Yes, we can nitpick things here and there about the dude like with any coach, but I don't see how you can possibly say Petersen is clearly his superior at this poont (let alone Mora).

    I agree we have top 3 coaching in the conference, but not putting Shaw in the top 4 is Section14aFS.
  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,293
    Shaw is the best coach in the PAC until proven otherwise. People dislike him because they think he's an uppity black man but he is far and away from riding Harbaugh's coattails
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,758

    Shaw is the best coach in the PAC until proven otherwise. People dislike him because they think he's an uppity black man but he is far and away from riding Harbaugh's coattails

    Agree
  • EsophagealFecesEsophagealFeces Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,106 Swaye's Wigwam

    Fair enough, Shaw is a good coach and my bad for the omission.

    But would you trade Petersen for Shaw? I don't think anyone here would.

    I would, but only because I'm in favor of affirmative action.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,758

    Fair enough, Shaw is a good coach and my bad for the omission.

    But would you trade Petersen for Shaw? I don't think anyone here would.

    It's a good question. Probably not, but I don't think it's open and shut. I think Shaw is obviously a great fit for Stanford (Hi ApostleOfGrief!). I also think Petersen is a great fit for UW.

    I'd probably pick Pete, just because I'm not sure Shaw would piss off Grinolds the same way. But I think Shaw is a damn good coach. Until someone actually proves their better, he's the class of the conference IMO.

  • VegasdawgVegasdawg Member Posts: 370
    I would pick Pete over Shaw and i don't buy the sales pitch that because BSU was in a lessor conference that somehow it translated into a bogus win loss record.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,971 Founders Club
    edited March 2014
    1) Mora Jr.
    1b) Shaw
    3) Graham
    4) Peterman (w/ potential to easily move up)
    5) RichRod...maybe he can finally get Arizona to a Rose Bowl... Either way I think he looks to move up and move on eventually
    6-12) mediocrity and drek. Who cares...
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,599 Founders Club
    Can't put Mora ahead of Shaw at this point. Shaw took on Chip Kelly and won. Then followed up with another title. I'm not seeing the decline. He shit the bed here and there, but so has Mora.
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    Helfreich WON ELEVEN GAMES IN HIS FIRST SEASON MAN
  • kh83kh83 Member Posts: 596
    I'm as follows:

    1. Shaw
    2. Mora Jr
    3. Peterson
    4. Graham
    5. Rich Rod
    6. Reilly
    7. Whittingham
    8. Slingblade
    9. Sark
    10. Mac
    11. Leach
    12. Dykes
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    kh83 - that's actually a pretty good list. I'd put Leach higher on resume and he really does have to rebuild in Poop Island
  • SweatpantsGeneralSweatpantsGeneral Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,120 Swaye's Wigwam

    Fair enough, Shaw is a good coach and my bad for the omission.

    But would you trade Petersen for Shaw? I don't think anyone here would.

    I gotta admit. I'm on the Poon bandwagon. (Is that the correct term for doogin' for Petersen? I like the sound of it)
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    The reason is the most successful guys (Carroll, Harbaugh, Chip) moved onto the NFL. The money is there for better assistants but we all know its the top guy that makes the entire staff. The conference is getting better players and better assistants but the most important part of that equation is a lot weaker than it was 5 years ago. As it is, Mora and Petersen to me are clearly the two best coaches in the conference with Rich Rod and Graham probably the next two. Petersen is clearly the best in the Pac-12 North. It bodes well for us over the next 5 years.

    Doog Post 'o the Day.

    Let's have Peterman complete 1 season in big boy football before we crown his ass.
  • PostGameOrangeSlicesPostGameOrangeSlices Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,278 Swaye's Wigwam
    It's gonna be funny on this bored when the fightin' doogs finish 7-6 next year.

    Check the script.
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