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Tequilla
Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
Can someone check out the numbers in this and/or fill in some gaps of cost to buyout key figures after their current season/year

Jimmy = $10M (3 years - rounded)

Football Assistants = $3-4M

Hopkins = ???

Hoops Assistants = ???

Jen Cohen = ???
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  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,315
    We need a Show Cause
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Swaye said:

    Those numbers will start looking cheaper when there are only 30K fans in the seats on crisp fall days.

    Just trying to get my facts together before I start thinking about a plan of action

    Important to remember buyout already locked in for women’s hoops
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,323 Standard Supporter

    I saw Jen at a Trump rally making fun of some gay guy.

    Allegedly

    I saw her kicking her dog at the park last weekend.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Cohen’s contract is in the $750-800k per year range (depending on annual raises) and expires at the end of June 2024

    She also has a retention bonus that vests in May 2024 … she already had her May 2021 option vest
  • sonics1993
    sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460
    Tequilla said:

    Can someone check out the numbers in this and/or fill in some gaps of cost to buyout key figures after their current season/year

    Jimmy = $10M (3 years - rounded)

    Football Assistants = $3-4M

    Hopkins = ???

    Hoops Assistants = ???

    Jen Cohen = ???

    For Hopkins after this year, he is due 9.3 million, Jen is due close to 3 million after this year, don't know about the basketball assistants but my guess is they both got 2-year contracts so between the two I would guess about one million
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    Can someone check out the numbers in this and/or fill in some gaps of cost to buyout key figures after their current season/year

    Jimmy = $10M (3 years - rounded)

    Football Assistants = $3-4M

    Hopkins = ???

    Hoops Assistants = ???

    Jen Cohen = ???

    For Hopkins after this year, he is due 9.3 million, Jen is due close to 3 million after this year, don't know about the basketball assistants but my guess is they both got 2-year contracts so between the two I would guess about one million
    Assuming the number for Jen includes a buyout of her option years?
  • sonics1993
    sonics1993 Member Posts: 1,460
    edited September 2021
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Can someone check out the numbers in this and/or fill in some gaps of cost to buyout key figures after their current season/year

    Jimmy = $10M (3 years - rounded)

    Football Assistants = $3-4M

    Hopkins = ???

    Hoops Assistants = ???

    Jen Cohen = ???

    For Hopkins after this year, he is due 9.3 million, Jen is due close to 3 million after this year, don't know about the basketball assistants but my guess is they both got 2-year contracts so between the two I would guess about one million
    Assuming the number for Jen includes a buyout of her option years?
    Yeah, it might be a little higher to around 3.5 million. And the football assistant buyout is around 5.2 million not 3-4 million.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    Can someone check out the numbers in this and/or fill in some gaps of cost to buyout key figures after their current season/year

    Jimmy = $10M (3 years - rounded)

    Football Assistants = $3-4M

    Hopkins = ???

    Hoops Assistants = ???

    Jen Cohen = ???

    For Hopkins after this year, he is due 9.3 million, Jen is due close to 3 million after this year, don't know about the basketball assistants but my guess is they both got 2-year contracts so between the two I would guess about one million
    Assuming the number for Jen includes a buyout of her option years?
    Yeah, it might be a little higher to around 3.5 mill.
    I was assuming around $2M with the buyouts the wild card

    But the context is good - thanks for confirming

    Given the options available, Jen’s buyout is easily the most palpable of them all. Hop’s likely got a few more years to stay comfortable.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Why does an unproven first time AD have any buyout?

    Fire whoever hired her too

    She doesn’t have a buyout … she has a CONTRACT

    The contract extension was made in 2018 …

    What was announced and made known over the last 6-12 months was the 2018 raise
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,402
    Any ideas for a new / good AD?

    To spread the pain out, the new AD should hire a new coach football coach (to protect and then grow the golden goose) while punting on Hopkins until after the 2022-2023 season.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    HFNY said:

    Any ideas for a new / good AD?

    To spread the pain out, the new AD should hire a new coach football coach (to protect and then grow the golden goose) while punting on Hopkins until after the 2022-2023 season.

    I think the timeline is right

    Jen sometime between now and end of Academic year

    Jimmy fine after 2022 season

    Hop you hope he can tread water until he gets to the last year of his contract and revisit at that point …

    The other missing pieces in here are that you will need to likely turn over the balance of the Athletic Department to change the culture (no small task) and will almost assuredly be opening up the coffers for your next football coach (can’t miss on 2 hires in a row … need someone with instant credibility that can turnaround the damage Jimmy has left)

    As for AD names, I don’t know resumes well enough but I would at minimum start by looking at those from the Big12 and if there is somebody in the SEC that makes a ton of sense.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,402
    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Any ideas for a new / good AD?

    To spread the pain out, the new AD should hire a new coach football coach (to protect and then grow the golden goose) while punting on Hopkins until after the 2022-2023 season.

    I think the timeline is right

    Jen sometime between now and end of Academic year

    Jimmy fine after 2022 season

    Hop you hope he can tread water until he gets to the last year of his contract and revisit at that point …

    The other missing pieces in here are that you will need to likely turn over the balance of the Athletic Department to change the culture (no small task) and will almost assuredly be opening up the coffers for your next football coach (can’t miss on 2 hires in a row … need someone with instant credibility that can turnaround the damage Jimmy has left)

    As for AD names, I don’t know resumes well enough but I would at minimum start by looking at those from the Big12 and if there is somebody in the SEC that makes a ton of sense.
    I don't know, if the Huskies go 5-7, it would most likely cost more in the medium run to keep a dead coach walking instead of eating that extra $3.2 million for 2022. How many people wouldn't renew their tickets and not spend money at the stadium? If 5,000 accounts gave up their Tyee tickets (for 10,000 total tickets), that alone would cost about $10 to $15 million each and every year. That's not even considering food / drinks, merchandise, and parking.
  • rodmansrage
    rodmansrage Member Posts: 6,379

    I saw Jen at a Trump rally making fun of some gay guy.

    Allegedly

    and she didnt have a mask on either. she was screaming about some horse medicine she was gonna use cause she didnt believe in vaccines.


    again, allegedly.
  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,402
    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Any ideas for a new / good AD?

    To spread the pain out, the new AD should hire a new coach football coach (to protect and then grow the golden goose) while punting on Hopkins until after the 2022-2023 season.

    I think the timeline is right

    Jen sometime between now and end of Academic year

    Jimmy fine after 2022 season

    Hop you hope he can tread water until he gets to the last year of his contract and revisit at that point …

    The other missing pieces in here are that you will need to likely turn over the balance of the Athletic Department to change the culture (no small task) and will almost assuredly be opening up the coffers for your next football coach (can’t miss on 2 hires in a row … need someone with instant credibility that can turnaround the damage Jimmy has left)

    As for AD names, I don’t know resumes well enough but I would at minimum start by looking at those from the Big12 and if there is somebody in the SEC that makes a ton of sense.
    It will cost about $5 million to get rid of JL and assistants for the 2022 season but if 5,000 season ticket holders at two Tyee tickets per account, that's about $10 to $15 million in lost revenues a year.
  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,771
    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Any ideas for a new / good AD?

    To spread the pain out, the new AD should hire a new coach football coach (to protect and then grow the golden goose) while punting on Hopkins until after the 2022-2023 season.

    I think the timeline is right

    Jen sometime between now and end of Academic year

    Jimmy fine after 2022 season

    Hop you hope he can tread water until he gets to the last year of his contract and revisit at that point …

    The other missing pieces in here are that you will need to likely turn over the balance of the Athletic Department to change the culture (no small task) and will almost assuredly be opening up the coffers for your next football coach (can’t miss on 2 hires in a row … need someone with instant credibility that can turnaround the damage Jimmy has left)

    As for AD names, I don’t know resumes well enough but I would at minimum start by looking at those from the Big12 and if there is somebody in the SEC that makes a ton of sense.
    No AD worth their salt is going to agree to work for Ana Mari Cauci. The obvious next logical step is firing AMC, but if you think UW and its BOR are the type of university to pull such a big dick move to improve their football program, you haven't been paying attention for the last 28+ years. UW is FUBAR.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    HFNY said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Any ideas for a new / good AD?

    To spread the pain out, the new AD should hire a new coach football coach (to protect and then grow the golden goose) while punting on Hopkins until after the 2022-2023 season.

    I think the timeline is right

    Jen sometime between now and end of Academic year

    Jimmy fine after 2022 season

    Hop you hope he can tread water until he gets to the last year of his contract and revisit at that point …

    The other missing pieces in here are that you will need to likely turn over the balance of the Athletic Department to change the culture (no small task) and will almost assuredly be opening up the coffers for your next football coach (can’t miss on 2 hires in a row … need someone with instant credibility that can turnaround the damage Jimmy has left)

    As for AD names, I don’t know resumes well enough but I would at minimum start by looking at those from the Big12 and if there is somebody in the SEC that makes a ton of sense.
    It will cost about $5 million to get rid of JL and assistants for the 2022 season but if 5,000 season ticket holders at two Tyee tickets per account, that's about $10 to $15 million in lost revenues a year.
    I want a new AD making the next football hire

    Fire Jen and I don’t know if you lose a ton in renewals because I expect most Tyees are smart enough to know what is coming

    Do nothing and you’re right … AD is going to take on water as the $$$ dries up
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    digits said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Any ideas for a new / good AD?

    To spread the pain out, the new AD should hire a new coach football coach (to protect and then grow the golden goose) while punting on Hopkins until after the 2022-2023 season.

    I think the timeline is right

    Jen sometime between now and end of Academic year

    Jimmy fine after 2022 season

    Hop you hope he can tread water until he gets to the last year of his contract and revisit at that point …

    The other missing pieces in here are that you will need to likely turn over the balance of the Athletic Department to change the culture (no small task) and will almost assuredly be opening up the coffers for your next football coach (can’t miss on 2 hires in a row … need someone with instant credibility that can turnaround the damage Jimmy has left)

    As for AD names, I don’t know resumes well enough but I would at minimum start by looking at those from the Big12 and if there is somebody in the SEC that makes a ton of sense.
    No AD worth their salt is going to agree to work for Ana Mari Cauci. The obvious next logical step is firing AMC, but if you think UW and its BOR are the type of university to pull such a big dick move to improve their football program, you haven't been paying attention for the last 28+ years. UW is FUBAR.
    Why would an AD not want to work for Cauce?

    From afar UW’s taken on more of a leadership role in the conference and she’s largely taken the position of staying out of the way when it comes to athletics (in the best way possible)
  • biak1
    biak1 Member Posts: 4,237
    Man I am in the wrong business. I need to fail up as well as these people have.

    The American Dream.
  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,771
    Tequilla said:

    digits said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Any ideas for a new / good AD?

    To spread the pain out, the new AD should hire a new coach football coach (to protect and then grow the golden goose) while punting on Hopkins until after the 2022-2023 season.

    I think the timeline is right

    Jen sometime between now and end of Academic year

    Jimmy fine after 2022 season

    Hop you hope he can tread water until he gets to the last year of his contract and revisit at that point …

    The other missing pieces in here are that you will need to likely turn over the balance of the Athletic Department to change the culture (no small task) and will almost assuredly be opening up the coffers for your next football coach (can’t miss on 2 hires in a row … need someone with instant credibility that can turnaround the damage Jimmy has left)

    As for AD names, I don’t know resumes well enough but I would at minimum start by looking at those from the Big12 and if there is somebody in the SEC that makes a ton of sense.
    No AD worth their salt is going to agree to work for Ana Mari Cauci. The obvious next logical step is firing AMC, but if you think UW and its BOR are the type of university to pull such a big dick move to improve their football program, you haven't been paying attention for the last 28+ years. UW is FUBAR.
    Why would an AD not want to work for Cauce?

    From afar UW’s taken on more of a leadership role in the conference and she’s largely taken the position of staying out of the way when it comes to athletics (in the best way possible)
    Yeah, I'm not sure that has turned out so well. Both of UW's revenue generating sports teams are dogshit.
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,799
    Tequilla said:

    digits said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Any ideas for a new / good AD?

    To spread the pain out, the new AD should hire a new coach football coach (to protect and then grow the golden goose) while punting on Hopkins until after the 2022-2023 season.

    I think the timeline is right

    Jen sometime between now and end of Academic year

    Jimmy fine after 2022 season

    Hop you hope he can tread water until he gets to the last year of his contract and revisit at that point …

    The other missing pieces in here are that you will need to likely turn over the balance of the Athletic Department to change the culture (no small task) and will almost assuredly be opening up the coffers for your next football coach (can’t miss on 2 hires in a row … need someone with instant credibility that can turnaround the damage Jimmy has left)

    As for AD names, I don’t know resumes well enough but I would at minimum start by looking at those from the Big12 and if there is somebody in the SEC that makes a ton of sense.
    No AD worth their salt is going to agree to work for Ana Mari Cauci. The obvious next logical step is firing AMC, but if you think UW and its BOR are the type of university to pull such a big dick move to improve their football program, you haven't been paying attention for the last 28+ years. UW is FUBAR.
    Why would an AD not want to work for Cauce?

    From afar UW’s taken on more of a leadership role in the conference and she’s largely taken the position of staying out of the way when it comes to athletics (in the best way possible)
    Football coaches don't know or understand anything about university presidents.

    UW pays football coaches a lot, the idea that "upper campus" actively strangles football is stupid.

    They would rather not deal with it on a personal level, but no D-1 pres. misunderstands the cultural importance of football.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    digits said:

    Tequilla said:

    digits said:

    Tequilla said:

    HFNY said:

    Any ideas for a new / good AD?

    To spread the pain out, the new AD should hire a new coach football coach (to protect and then grow the golden goose) while punting on Hopkins until after the 2022-2023 season.

    I think the timeline is right

    Jen sometime between now and end of Academic year

    Jimmy fine after 2022 season

    Hop you hope he can tread water until he gets to the last year of his contract and revisit at that point …

    The other missing pieces in here are that you will need to likely turn over the balance of the Athletic Department to change the culture (no small task) and will almost assuredly be opening up the coffers for your next football coach (can’t miss on 2 hires in a row … need someone with instant credibility that can turnaround the damage Jimmy has left)

    As for AD names, I don’t know resumes well enough but I would at minimum start by looking at those from the Big12 and if there is somebody in the SEC that makes a ton of sense.
    No AD worth their salt is going to agree to work for Ana Mari Cauci. The obvious next logical step is firing AMC, but if you think UW and its BOR are the type of university to pull such a big dick move to improve their football program, you haven't been paying attention for the last 28+ years. UW is FUBAR.
    Why would an AD not want to work for Cauce?

    From afar UW’s taken on more of a leadership role in the conference and she’s largely taken the position of staying out of the way when it comes to athletics (in the best way possible)
    Yeah, I'm not sure that has turned out so well. Both of UW's revenue generating sports teams are dogshit.
    That’s not the President’s job

    Her job is to manage the Athletic Director

    The Athletic Director is responsible for the programs
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    I’m hearing Pat Haden is tanned, rested, and ready.