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"Around-the-block" Coordinator Hires...lol

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  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,766 Founders Club
    edited August 2021
    Around the block coordinators >>> around the way girls.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,809 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    I think the overarching point is correct. It always comes back to the head coach.

    You can tell good assistants from really bad ones in most cases though. Wilcox is a good defensive coach. It wasn't hard to see the immediate improvement over Holt.

    My guess is that Petersen would have had similarly good defenses at UW with Wilcox as DC as he had with Kawasaki. There's a hell of a lot more to it than scheme. The HC is responsible for the culture, work ethic and all that other gay stuff but he's also ultimately responsible for the personnel. Petersen was a good roster builder. Sark was not.

    I expect Texas and Sark to still give up 50 to Oklahoma even with Kwat even with Herman players

    Sounds like I agree with you
    Yes, just not on the Wilcox-Holt part. There was definitely a difference.

    Kwat made a pretty dumb move on the surface if one assumes that he's working on his resume. His defense will struggle with Sark as the HC. It doesn't seem to matter though. He can always fail upward like his new boss keeps doing.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,556 Founders Club
    I'm not willing to die on the Wilcocks hill I just like calling him Wilcocks and don't want him here if/when Jimmy fails

    @dnc is riii righ right but still
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,809 Swaye's Wigwam

    I'm not willing to die on the Wilcocks hill I just like calling him Wilcocks and don't want him here if/when Jimmy fails

    @dnc is riii righ right but still

    I dont want Wilcox back at UW as head coach either. He would be a better hire than Sark was, but that's faint praise.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    I'm not willing to die on the Wilcocks hill I just like calling him Wilcocks and don't want him here if/when Jimmy fails

    @dnc is riii righ right but still

    I supper superior culture
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,556 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    I'm not willing to die on the Wilcocks hill I just like calling him Wilcocks and don't want him here if/when Jimmy fails

    @dnc is riii righ right but still

    I supper superior culture
    That's why I don't want him

    Even with superior culture his record is meh

    Reminds me of "Gilby didn't have the support he needed at Cal but he will do great at UW!"

    @BearsWiin
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855

    dnc said:

    I'm not willing to die on the Wilcocks hill I just like calling him Wilcocks and don't want him here if/when Jimmy fails

    @dnc is riii righ right but still

    I supper superior culture
    That's why I don't want him

    Even with superior culture his record is meh

    Reminds me of "Gilby didn't have the support he needed at Cal but he will do great at UW!"

    @BearsWiin
    I wouldn't really want him. I do think he'd be an improvement over Jimmy and one of the few ones you can realistically imagine Jen pursuing.

    I don't think he'd be the next great Husky coach though.

    TPIO
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,556 Founders Club
    Upvote but don't think he'd be an improvement

    Let's circle back this November
  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,854 Founders Club
    dnc said:

    Sark was a great OC for Carrol and Saban, he was an average to below average OC at UW and with the Atlanta Falcons. Wilcox was a great DC (top ten defenses) under Peterman and Chryst and good(UW)/average(USC) DC under Sark and Derek Dooley at UT. I fully expect that the bend but don’t break, twelve play drive, hold em to a FG defense of Kwat will be a poor match with the all gas no breaks offense of Sark. Unless Kwat runs a defense completely different from what he ran at Bose/UW or Sark runs an offense completely different from what got him his job at Texas the two styles can’t mesh. Ive got my popcorn ready though.
    CantwaitGIF

    I don't think Sark was a great OC for Carroll. It was a big reason I wasn't a big fan of the hire.
    I concede it was a stretch for the sake of my argument. The Carroll/Sark offenses were boring and worked like Novocain as they slowly overwhelmed you with superior athletes. The Chow years were much more dynamic or as dynamic as Carroll would allow an offense to be anyway.