The situation isn't what it should be but with how much CFB is changing a 5-6 window is most relevant, and we are basically Northwestern/MSU/Wisconsin during that time. We need to be able to compete with tOSU in recruiting, and we aren't. It needs to get fixed.
Not ideal, but the "it's dead" stuff is hyperbolic.
The main thing that has let everyone down is the coach who began building and then quit abruptly. And that's not on UW, that's on him, and the unspoken thing is that like Chip, he's just not a good coach once defenses figure out his offense.
Like has been hinted here, the defense is great and innovative (susceptible to certain positions bottoming out, yes) and Lake was the man behind that, which is why that decision was made in 2019. Along with the elevated DB recruiting since 2014
Petersen as an organizer and leader is substantially better than Chip. People actually like Petersen.
Chip’s innovating days are over and he now sucks.
I said when He was hired at UCLA that Chip Kelly would suck there. @RaceBannon remembers.
Chips Oregon teams however were all Better than any of Pete’s teams. And it wasn’t close.
Disagree. They weren’t all better than 2016 UW.
Mariota would have made it tough, but our defense was much better than Chip’s defenses, which were mostly underrated defenses and better than they got credit for.
Which Chip Kelly led squad would the 2016 Huskies beat?
The situation isn't what it should be but with how much CFB is changing a 5-6 window is most relevant, and we are basically Northwestern/MSU/Wisconsin during that time. We need to be able to compete with tOSU in recruiting, and we aren't. It needs to get fixed.
Not ideal, but the "it's dead" stuff is hyperbolic.
The main thing that has let everyone down is the coach who began building and then quit abruptly. And that's not on UW, that's on him, and the unspoken thing is that like Chip, he's just not a good coach once defenses figure out his offense.
Like has been hinted here, the defense is great and innovative (susceptible to certain positions bottoming out, yes) and Lake was the man behind that, which is why that decision was made in 2019. Along with the elevated DB recruiting since 2014
Petersen as an organizer and leader is substantially better than Chip. People actually like Petersen.
Chip’s innovating days are over and he now sucks.
I said when He was hired at UCLA that Chip Kelly would suck there. @RaceBannon remembers.
Chips Oregon teams however were all Better than any of Pete’s teams. And it wasn’t close.
Disagree. They weren’t all better than 2016 UW.
Mariota would have made it tough, but our defense was much better than Chip’s defenses, which were mostly underrated defenses and better than they got credit for.
The 2017 team too, up until injuries and opt outs revealed the lack of depth.
I can't say which of the Chip teams they would be better than. A couple were obviously way beyond reach.
A few of those Oregon teams lost to Stanford. They always had trouble when they couldn’t gash you on the ground with tempo.
They were very, very good, but 2016 UW is beating at least a few of them. A lot of it would just depend on the day, the momentum, and home field.
The situation isn't what it should be but with how much CFB is changing a 5-6 window is most relevant, and we are basically Northwestern/MSU/Wisconsin during that time. We need to be able to compete with tOSU in recruiting, and we aren't. It needs to get fixed.
Not ideal, but the "it's dead" stuff is hyperbolic.
The main thing that has let everyone down is the coach who began building and then quit abruptly. And that's not on UW, that's on him, and the unspoken thing is that like Chip, he's just not a good coach once defenses figure out his offense.
Like has been hinted here, the defense is great and innovative (susceptible to certain positions bottoming out, yes) and Lake was the man behind that, which is why that decision was made in 2019. Along with the elevated DB recruiting since 2014
Petersen as an organizer and leader is substantially better than Chip. People actually like Petersen.
Chip’s innovating days are over and he now sucks.
I said when He was hired at UCLA that Chip Kelly would suck there. @RaceBannon remembers.
Chips Oregon teams however were all Better than any of Pete’s teams. And it wasn’t close.
Disagree. They weren’t all better than 2016 UW.
Mariota would have made it tough, but our defense was much better than Chip’s defenses, which were mostly underrated defenses and better than they got credit for.
The 2017 team too, up until injuries and opt outs revealed the lack of depth.
I can't say which of the Chip teams they would be better than. A couple were obviously way beyond reach.
A few of those Oregon teams lost to Stanford. They always had trouble when they couldn’t gash you on the ground with tempo.
They were very, very good, but 2016 UW is beating at least a few of them. A lot of it would just depend on the day, the momentum, and home field.
Your best teams lost to Stanford.
The best team of that run, that he keeps mentioning, beat Stanford rather easily...say 44-6. Remember that team? 70-21 ring a bell?
An injury decimated squad lost to Stanford the next year (the one that beat the fighting taggerts 38-3).
The situation isn't what it should be but with how much CFB is changing a 5-6 window is most relevant, and we are basically Northwestern/MSU/Wisconsin during that time. We need to be able to compete with tOSU in recruiting, and we aren't. It needs to get fixed.
Not ideal, but the "it's dead" stuff is hyperbolic.
The main thing that has let everyone down is the coach who began building and then quit abruptly. And that's not on UW, that's on him, and the unspoken thing is that like Chip, he's just not a good coach once defenses figure out his offense.
Like has been hinted here, the defense is great and innovative (susceptible to certain positions bottoming out, yes) and Lake was the man behind that, which is why that decision was made in 2019. Along with the elevated DB recruiting since 2014
Petersen as an organizer and leader is substantially better than Chip. People actually like Petersen.
Chip’s innovating days are over and he now sucks.
I said when He was hired at UCLA that Chip Kelly would suck there. @RaceBannon remembers.
Chips Oregon teams however were all Better than any of Pete’s teams. And it wasn’t close.
Disagree. They weren’t all better than 2016 UW.
Mariota would have made it tough, but our defense was much better than Chip’s defenses, which were mostly underrated defenses and better than they got credit for.
Which Chip Kelly led squad would the 2016 Huskies beat?
Chip's offense still would have scored, but Kawasaki's defense would have been a lot more effective against it than most. Any UW defense between 2015 and 2019 would have given the offense to chance to hang with any of his Oregon teams. Not sure the offense would have, but...
The situation isn't what it should be but with how much CFB is changing a 5-6 window is most relevant, and we are basically Northwestern/MSU/Wisconsin during that time. We need to be able to compete with tOSU in recruiting, and we aren't. It needs to get fixed.
Not ideal, but the "it's dead" stuff is hyperbolic.
The main thing that has let everyone down is the coach who began building and then quit abruptly. And that's not on UW, that's on him, and the unspoken thing is that like Chip, he's just not a good coach once defenses figure out his offense.
Like has been hinted here, the defense is great and innovative (susceptible to certain positions bottoming out, yes) and Lake was the man behind that, which is why that decision was made in 2019. Along with the elevated DB recruiting since 2014
Petersen as an organizer and leader is substantially better than Chip. People actually like Petersen.
Chip’s innovating days are over and he now sucks.
I said when He was hired at UCLA that Chip Kelly would suck there. @RaceBannon remembers.
Chips Oregon teams however were all Better than any of Pete’s teams. And it wasn’t close.
Disagree. They weren’t all better than 2016 UW.
Mariota would have made it tough, but our defense was much better than Chip’s defenses, which were mostly underrated defenses and better than they got credit for.
Which Chip Kelly led squad would the 2016 Huskies beat?
Chip's offense still would have scored, but Kawasaki's defense would have been a lot more effective against it than most. Any UW defense between 2015 and 2019 would have given the offense to chance to hang with any of his Oregon teams. Not sure the offense would have, but...
None of Chips teams were pass first. And that was the strength of Pete defenses.
Chips teams snapped the ball every 13 seconds with the same personnel on the field for a whole drive many times. No substitutions for either side. Almost all defenses buckled eventually.
But the reality is that we will never know of course. Chips best team was the year after He left. And that was Pete’s first year.
The situation isn't what it should be but with how much CFB is changing a 5-6 window is most relevant, and we are basically Northwestern/MSU/Wisconsin during that time. We need to be able to compete with tOSU in recruiting, and we aren't. It needs to get fixed.
Not ideal, but the "it's dead" stuff is hyperbolic.
The main thing that has let everyone down is the coach who began building and then quit abruptly. And that's not on UW, that's on him, and the unspoken thing is that like Chip, he's just not a good coach once defenses figure out his offense.
Like has been hinted here, the defense is great and innovative (susceptible to certain positions bottoming out, yes) and Lake was the man behind that, which is why that decision was made in 2019. Along with the elevated DB recruiting since 2014
Petersen as an organizer and leader is substantially better than Chip. People actually like Petersen.
Chip’s innovating days are over and he now sucks.
I said when He was hired at UCLA that Chip Kelly would suck there. @RaceBannon remembers.
Chips Oregon teams however were all Better than any of Pete’s teams. And it wasn’t close.
Disagree. They weren’t all better than 2016 UW.
Mariota would have made it tough, but our defense was much better than Chip’s defenses, which were mostly underrated defenses and better than they got credit for.
Which Chip Kelly led squad would the 2016 Huskies beat?
Chip's offense still would have scored, but Kawasaki's defense would have been a lot more effective against it than most. Any UW defense between 2015 and 2019 would have given the offense to chance to hang with any of his Oregon teams. Not sure the offense would have, but...
None of Chips teams were pass first. And that was the strength of Pete defenses.
Chips teams snapped the ball every 13 seconds with the same personnel on the field for a whole drive many times. No substitutions for either side. Almost all defenses buckled eventually.
But the reality is that we will never know of course. Chips best team was the year after He left. And that was Pete’s first year.
Those defenses were good against the run too, When they struggled it was against power running teams and play action.
Read my other response. I'm well aware of how his offenses worked and how hard it was to contain them for a full game. I also know how often teams that were containing them buckled after giving up a crucial big play, and how good the ducks were at seizing that momentum. Petersen's teams were crazy good at not giving up those big plays
The situation isn't what it should be but with how much CFB is changing a 5-6 window is most relevant, and we are basically Northwestern/MSU/Wisconsin during that time. We need to be able to compete with tOSU in recruiting, and we aren't. It needs to get fixed.
Not ideal, but the "it's dead" stuff is hyperbolic.
The main thing that has let everyone down is the coach who began building and then quit abruptly. And that's not on UW, that's on him, and the unspoken thing is that like Chip, he's just not a good coach once defenses figure out his offense.
Like has been hinted here, the defense is great and innovative (susceptible to certain positions bottoming out, yes) and Lake was the man behind that, which is why that decision was made in 2019. Along with the elevated DB recruiting since 2014
Petersen as an organizer and leader is substantially better than Chip. People actually like Petersen.
Chip’s innovating days are over and he now sucks.
I said when He was hired at UCLA that Chip Kelly would suck there. @RaceBannon remembers.
Chips Oregon teams however were all Better than any of Pete’s teams. And it wasn’t close.
Disagree. They weren’t all better than 2016 UW.
Mariota would have made it tough, but our defense was much better than Chip’s defenses, which were mostly underrated defenses and better than they got credit for.
Which Chip Kelly led squad would the 2016 Huskies beat?
Chip's offense still would have scored, but Kawasaki's defense would have been a lot more effective against it than most. Any UW defense between 2015 and 2019 would have given the offense to chance to hang with any of his Oregon teams. Not sure the offense would have, but...
None of Chips teams were pass first. And that was the strength of Pete defenses.
Chips teams snapped the ball every 13 seconds with the same personnel on the field for a whole drive many times. No substitutions for either side. Almost all defenses buckled eventually.
But the reality is that we will never know of course. Chips best team was the year after He left. And that was Pete’s first year.
Vita Vea (at DE), Greg Gaines, Elijah Qualls, JoJo Mathis.
Not strong against the run? G.T.F.O.H Dixon’sKnee.
The situation isn't what it should be but with how much CFB is changing a 5-6 window is most relevant, and we are basically Northwestern/MSU/Wisconsin during that time. We need to be able to compete with tOSU in recruiting, and we aren't. It needs to get fixed.
Not ideal, but the "it's dead" stuff is hyperbolic.
The main thing that has let everyone down is the coach who began building and then quit abruptly. And that's not on UW, that's on him, and the unspoken thing is that like Chip, he's just not a good coach once defenses figure out his offense.
Like has been hinted here, the defense is great and innovative (susceptible to certain positions bottoming out, yes) and Lake was the man behind that, which is why that decision was made in 2019. Along with the elevated DB recruiting since 2014
Petersen as an organizer and leader is substantially better than Chip. People actually like Petersen.
Chip’s innovating days are over and he now sucks.
I said when He was hired at UCLA that Chip Kelly would suck there. @RaceBannon remembers.
Chips Oregon teams however were all Better than any of Pete’s teams. And it wasn’t close.
Disagree. They weren’t all better than 2016 UW.
Mariota would have made it tough, but our defense was much better than Chip’s defenses, which were mostly underrated defenses and better than they got credit for.
Which Chip Kelly led squad would the 2016 Huskies beat?
Chip's offense still would have scored, but Kawasaki's defense would have been a lot more effective against it than most. Any UW defense between 2015 and 2019 would have given the offense to chance to hang with any of his Oregon teams. Not sure the offense would have, but...
None of Chips teams were pass first. And that was the strength of Pete defenses.
Chips teams snapped the ball every 13 seconds with the same personnel on the field for a whole drive many times. No substitutions for either side. Almost all defenses buckled eventually.
But the reality is that we will never know of course. Chips best team was the year after He left. And that was Pete’s first year.
Vita Vea (at DE), Greg Gaines, Elijah Qualls, JoJo Mathis.
Not strong against the run? G.T.F.O.H Dixon’sKnee.
You had some studs on the DL as well. And they faced Chip Kelly style offenses, as many teams copied what Oregon was doing. However the copies were never as good as the original.
The situation isn't what it should be but with how much CFB is changing a 5-6 window is most relevant, and we are basically Northwestern/MSU/Wisconsin during that time. We need to be able to compete with tOSU in recruiting, and we aren't. It needs to get fixed.
Not ideal, but the "it's dead" stuff is hyperbolic.
The main thing that has let everyone down is the coach who began building and then quit abruptly. And that's not on UW, that's on him, and the unspoken thing is that like Chip, he's just not a good coach once defenses figure out his offense.
Like has been hinted here, the defense is great and innovative (susceptible to certain positions bottoming out, yes) and Lake was the man behind that, which is why that decision was made in 2019. Along with the elevated DB recruiting since 2014
Petersen as an organizer and leader is substantially better than Chip. People actually like Petersen.
Chip’s innovating days are over and he now sucks.
I said when He was hired at UCLA that Chip Kelly would suck there. @RaceBannon remembers.
Chips Oregon teams however were all Better than any of Pete’s teams. And it wasn’t close.
Disagree. They weren’t all better than 2016 UW.
Mariota would have made it tough, but our defense was much better than Chip’s defenses, which were mostly underrated defenses and better than they got credit for.
The 2017 team too, up until injuries and opt outs revealed the lack of depth.
I can't say which of the Chip teams they would be better than. A couple were obviously way beyond reach.
A few of those Oregon teams lost to Stanford. They always had trouble when they couldn’t gash you on the ground with tempo.
They were very, very good, but 2016 UW is beating at least a few of them. A lot of it would just depend on the day, the momentum, and home field.
The 2016 team had the front w/ Vita, Greg and Qualls to stop the hand off to the rb on the read zone which was Chip's teams achilles when they lost (LSU, Auburn, Ohio State), so as long as our ends didn't crash to stop it and trusted Big Daddy G and Vita to do their job (which they would have) our Defense would have been more able to keep it close.
The other thing Chip's offense was great at was running those two plays so successfully that the DB's/safeties would start to peak/run in to help w/ run support, and then fake the hand off and hit a wr that was 10 yards behind everyone.
I would take my chances with the 2016 team Defense anytime.
The coaching search has been one of the few bright spots of this century of Husky football. It's kept things afloat in a lazy rhythm of - shitty hire, can't wait to fire, and another shitty hire.
Neuheisel was an inspired hire in 98 despite the end. Won our? last Rose Bowl and got the TBS crowd fired up and landed Paul Arnold and Reggie Williams
Gilby and Ty were HORRIBLE hires. Sark was unknown as a head coach so he had that going for him which was nice. He would not have been fired anytime soon
Petersen was a great hire graded on the curve of the talent pool that the AD uses. 3 out of his 6 years were better than most. TBS guys love him although getting his guys in here didn't do much other than 8-5.
He quits and the AD makes the easy hire of Jimmy and the world comes to a halt.
At this time the entire Pac 12 decides to give up football and the sharks at the SEC and the ACC and Ohio State see the blood in the waters. The top two California quarterbacks were already at Clemson and Bama.
So we lose Emeka and JTT to Ohio State not Oregon or Stanford or USC. Other than enjoying the company here in Misery this is not good for the West Coast.
I love to fire the coach as much as the next guy but the same people still hire the next one and the folks doing the hiring don't get fired.
Jimmy could have done some things differently and had a better shot. Ryan Day clearly has something going on. As do schools serious about football.
At this point I think Husky Football is as fucked as it has ever been because I don't see a way out. 7-5 with the occasional 10-2 is our lot in life. Build the statue of Jimmy
30 years from now we can reminisce about the first round play off losses.
It's not one recruit and it's not one year. It's the last 30 years.
Petersen had the best run in the last 25-30 years for UW and still wasn’t enough.
What if Petersen was actually the best coach in all of CFB, and therefore has shown us the best any head coach could ever achieve at Washington? That would suck.
The situation isn't what it should be but with how much CFB is changing a 5-6 window is most relevant, and we are basically Northwestern/MSU/Wisconsin during that time. We need to be able to compete with tOSU in recruiting, and we aren't. It needs to get fixed.
Not ideal, but the "it's dead" stuff is hyperbolic.
The main thing that has let everyone down is the coach who began building and then quit abruptly. And that's not on UW, that's on him, and the unspoken thing is that like Chip, he's just not a good coach once defenses figure out his offense.
Like has been hinted here, the defense is great and innovative (susceptible to certain positions bottoming out, yes) and Lake was the man behind that, which is why that decision was made in 2019. Along with the elevated DB recruiting since 2014
Petersen as an organizer and leader is substantially better than Chip. People actually like Petersen.
Chip’s innovating days are over and he now sucks.
I said when He was hired at UCLA that Chip Kelly would suck there. @RaceBannon remembers.
Chips Oregon teams however were all Better than any of Pete’s teams. And it wasn’t close.
Disagree. They weren’t all better than 2016 UW.
Mariota would have made it tough, but our defense was much better than Chip’s defenses, which were mostly underrated defenses and better than they got credit for.
The 2017 team too, up until injuries and opt outs revealed the lack of depth.
I can't say which of the Chip teams they would be better than. A couple were obviously way beyond reach.
A few of those Oregon teams lost to Stanford. They always had trouble when they couldn’t gash you on the ground with tempo.
They were very, very good, but 2016 UW is beating at least a few of them. A lot of it would just depend on the day, the momentum, and home field.
The 2016 team had the front w/ Vita, Greg and Qualls to stop the hand off to the rb on the read zone which was Chip's teams achilles when they lost (LSU, Auburn, Ohio State), so as long as our ends didn't crash to stop it and trusted Big Daddy G and Vita to do their job (which they would have) our Defense would have been more able to keep it close.
The other thing Chip's offense was great at was running those two plays so successfully that the DB's/safeties would start to peak/run in to help w/ run support, and then fake the hand off and hit a wr that was 10 yards behind everyone.
I would take my chances with the 2016 team Defense anytime.
WR screens didn’t work on us either, mainly because of Budda.
The situation isn't what it should be but with how much CFB is changing a 5-6 window is most relevant, and we are basically Northwestern/MSU/Wisconsin during that time. We need to be able to compete with tOSU in recruiting, and we aren't. It needs to get fixed.
Not ideal, but the "it's dead" stuff is hyperbolic.
The main thing that has let everyone down is the coach who began building and then quit abruptly. And that's not on UW, that's on him, and the unspoken thing is that like Chip, he's just not a good coach once defenses figure out his offense.
Like has been hinted here, the defense is great and innovative (susceptible to certain positions bottoming out, yes) and Lake was the man behind that, which is why that decision was made in 2019. Along with the elevated DB recruiting since 2014
Petersen as an organizer and leader is substantially better than Chip. People actually like Petersen.
Chip’s innovating days are over and he now sucks.
I said when He was hired at UCLA that Chip Kelly would suck there. @RaceBannon remembers.
Chips Oregon teams however were all Better than any of Pete’s teams. And it wasn’t close.
Disagree. They weren’t all better than 2016 UW.
Mariota would have made it tough, but our defense was much better than Chip’s defenses, which were mostly underrated defenses and better than they got credit for.
The 2017 team too, up until injuries and opt outs revealed the lack of depth.
I can't say which of the Chip teams they would be better than. A couple were obviously way beyond reach.
A few of those Oregon teams lost to Stanford. They always had trouble when they couldn’t gash you on the ground with tempo.
They were very, very good, but 2016 UW is beating at least a few of them. A lot of it would just depend on the day, the momentum, and home field.
The 2016 team had the front w/ Vita, Greg and Qualls to stop the hand off to the rb on the read zone which was Chip's teams achilles when they lost (LSU, Auburn, Ohio State), so as long as our ends didn't crash to stop it and trusted Big Daddy G and Vita to do their job (which they would have) our Defense would have been more able to keep it close.
The other thing Chip's offense was great at was running those two plays so successfully that the DB's/safeties would start to peak/run in to help w/ run support, and then fake the hand off and hit a wr that was 10 yards behind everyone.
I would take my chances with the 2016 team Defense anytime.
WR screens didn’t work on us either, mainly because of Budda.
His speed getting to those was a difference maker for sure. The corners were good at containing that play too though.
That defense had everything except high quality depth.
What website is this you're screenshotting @Canadawg?
Here’s the table since the invention of football, but he’ll let you go back to 1869 for some reason. Really puts things in perspective. For all the sadness in this thread you’d think this was HardcoreHokie.
Claiming that football was invented in 1994 -- which is the year Justin Bieber was born -- if fucktarted -- but what else can be expected of quacks.
What website is this you're screenshotting @Canadawg?
Here’s the table since the invention of football, but he’ll let you go back to 1869 for some reason. Really puts things in perspective. For all the sadness in this thread you’d think this was HardcoreHokie.
Claiming that football was invented in 1994 -- which is the year Justin Bieber was born -- if fucktarted -- but what else can be expected of quacks.
Brothers Teddy and Franklin Roosevelt invented football in 1994, changing it from a more rugby-like game dependent on scrums to the football we know and lovehate today by introducing the forward pass.
Caption: Teddy Roosevelt pets his older brother, former president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, while (l-r) Kenny Wheaton, Phil Knight, and Walt Disney congratulate him on inventing football. October 1994. Picture courtesy of the UOSJC archives. Fun historical fact: The American public did not know that FDR was a duck due to complications from playing too much polo. The media helped hide this in order to not hurt morale during the Boer War.
The sobering reality is there is no home for a moderate doog who wants to criticize his team and rant now and then.
Dawgman is full of beta cunts who bow down to nacho lovers. You miserable cunts just want to sit in the dark at anf cut yourselves. And stare at cooze in the Wam that old farts can't pull anymore.
What website is this you're screenshotting @Canadawg?
Here’s the table since the invention of football, but he’ll let you go back to 1869 for some reason. Really puts things in perspective. For all the sadness in this thread you’d think this was HardcoreHokie.
Claiming that football was invented in 1994 -- which is the year Justin Bieber was born -- if fucktarted -- but what else can be expected of quacks.
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An injury decimated squad lost to Stanford the next year (the one that beat the fighting taggerts 38-3).
Don't be a retard. Troll better.
Chips teams snapped the ball every 13 seconds with the same personnel on the field for a whole drive many times. No substitutions for either side. Almost all defenses buckled eventually.
But the reality is that we will never know of course. Chips best team was the year after He left. And that was Pete’s first year.
Read my other response. I'm well aware of how his offenses worked and how hard it was to contain them for a full game. I also know how often teams that were containing them buckled after giving up a crucial big play, and how good the ducks were at seizing that momentum. Petersen's teams were crazy good at not giving up those big plays
Not strong against the run? G.T.F.O.H Dixon’sKnee.
We’ll never know.
The other thing Chip's offense was great at was running those two plays so successfully that the DB's/safeties would start to peak/run in to help w/ run support, and then fake the hand off and hit a wr that was 10 yards behind everyone.
I would take my chances with the 2016 team Defense anytime.
That defense had everything except high quality depth.
Caption: Teddy Roosevelt pets his older brother, former president Franklin Delano Roosevelt, while (l-r) Kenny Wheaton, Phil Knight, and Walt Disney congratulate him on inventing football. October 1994. Picture courtesy of the UOSJC archives. Fun historical fact: The American public did not know that FDR was a duck due to complications from playing too much polo. The media helped hide this in order to not hurt morale during the Boer War.