So much for Obama's "Warning" to Russia...
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We can also discuss whether Alabama would have won any titles without Nick Saban. It's just as silly.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You can when you're engaging in hypothetical WW3 scenarios on a message board.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sorry dude, but you can't remove the most important part of the equation from the problem and expect to get a hypothetical result that would be anything close to reality.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
For the 3rd time, I'm not taking nuclear weapons into consideration in this hypothetical. Christ.oregonblitzkrieg said:
And while you're busy sending them to the 'apocalypse,' MacArthur, they've nuked Seattle, Los Angeles, SFO, etc. from secret bases we don't know exist.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
While I agree it is stupid to compare military might while ignoring nuclear weapons, the fact is that the US Navy and AF is better equipped than the Russian's.HuskiesADW said:Ukraine is a s*** hole because of the corruption by their leaders. Southern Ukraine is agriculturally rich (enough to essentially feed the world). There is a reason why in every invasion of Russia, Ukraine was immediately targeted. Eastern Ukraine also has a lot of valuable natural resources.
I am Ukrainian and know what is going on there from the relatives who still live there. Honestly from what I gather Ukraine will break apart. Crimea first and than followed by Donetsk and Kharkov. At that point neither the U.S. or Europe will give two S***s about Ukraine. They just want to get their hands on Southern/Eastern Ukraine and gain their agriculture for their own benefit. That is the only reason Europe or the U.S. is making a huge issue about what is going on in Ukraine.
I also laugh at the proposed sanctions against Russia by Europe/US. Russia is a nation that is hard to sanction because of their wealth of natural resources. Europe will not do it as Russia will shut down the flow of natural gas into Europe. That will hurt Europe's economy more than sanctions will hurt Russia's. The United States alone sanctioning Russia will not have a huge impact without Europe also doing it.
Arguing about military strength between Russia and the U.S. is laughable. Very, very, very few people actually know about the true strength of each other's military might. In the case of Russia and America it won't be the land troops, air force or navy that will decide the outcome. The outcome will be decided by each nations ICBM's, SLBM's, SSBN's and their defense systems against them. Fact is if a war breaks out between Russia and the U.S. the whole world is F***ed because both nations have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the whole wold.
In a total war scenario, one US carrier fleet could destroy an entire country, Russia and China notwithstanding. Ten of them could send Russia and China to the apocalypse. -
Why are you so butthurt Stalin?oregonblitzkrieg said:
We can also discuss whether Alabama would have won any titles without Nick Saban. It's just as silly.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You can when you're engaging in hypothetical WW3 scenarios on a message board.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sorry dude, but you can't remove the most important part of the equation from the problem and expect to get a hypothetical result that would be anything close to reality.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
For the 3rd time, I'm not taking nuclear weapons into consideration in this hypothetical. Christ.oregonblitzkrieg said:
And while you're busy sending them to the 'apocalypse,' MacArthur, they've nuked Seattle, Los Angeles, SFO, etc. from secret bases we don't know exist.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
While I agree it is stupid to compare military might while ignoring nuclear weapons, the fact is that the US Navy and AF is better equipped than the Russian's.HuskiesADW said:Ukraine is a s*** hole because of the corruption by their leaders. Southern Ukraine is agriculturally rich (enough to essentially feed the world). There is a reason why in every invasion of Russia, Ukraine was immediately targeted. Eastern Ukraine also has a lot of valuable natural resources.
I am Ukrainian and know what is going on there from the relatives who still live there. Honestly from what I gather Ukraine will break apart. Crimea first and than followed by Donetsk and Kharkov. At that point neither the U.S. or Europe will give two S***s about Ukraine. They just want to get their hands on Southern/Eastern Ukraine and gain their agriculture for their own benefit. That is the only reason Europe or the U.S. is making a huge issue about what is going on in Ukraine.
I also laugh at the proposed sanctions against Russia by Europe/US. Russia is a nation that is hard to sanction because of their wealth of natural resources. Europe will not do it as Russia will shut down the flow of natural gas into Europe. That will hurt Europe's economy more than sanctions will hurt Russia's. The United States alone sanctioning Russia will not have a huge impact without Europe also doing it.
Arguing about military strength between Russia and the U.S. is laughable. Very, very, very few people actually know about the true strength of each other's military might. In the case of Russia and America it won't be the land troops, air force or navy that will decide the outcome. The outcome will be decided by each nations ICBM's, SLBM's, SSBN's and their defense systems against them. Fact is if a war breaks out between Russia and the U.S. the whole world is F***ed because both nations have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the whole wold.
In a total war scenario, one US carrier fleet could destroy an entire country, Russia and China notwithstanding. Ten of them could send Russia and China to the apocalypse.
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Especially when you're trying to find an argument in support of Obubba.CuntWaffle said:You guys need to stop with serious responses to D2D.
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You likely didn't score very high on reading comprehension on you SATs. You should really reread my poaste. I said it wasn't an option.Mad_Son said:
Ok, so your solution is to start lobbing ICBMs at Russia starting yesterday. Got it.d2d said:
We have removed all our tactical nuclear weapons from our NATO allies' countries along with all our armored units. The Army is being neutered. Obubba didn't start this mess, but he certainly accelerated it, and FOR SURE isn't doing anything to correct the situation.allpurpleallgold said:So are you going to answer Mad Sons question or not?
Poland can't buy missile defenses from us, nor are they allowed to buy surplus M1 tanks. They buy their tanks from Germany. Obubba doesn't want to stop Putin. He's not even going to try. He STILL isn't going to National Security briefings.
The only option to stopping Putin from invading Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, etc., is to use ICBM's. Not a viable option.
BUT OBUBBA KILLED BIN LADEN! So what has he done for you lately?
I am thankful Obama is president and not you.
In addition, you obviously have never seen a nuclear weapon. Tactical nuclear weapons can have a yield as low as 18 tons of TNT, and they make a lovely deterrent. Plus, they're great at neatly wiping out a Russian Armored Division. Too bad we got rid of all of them. Keep discussing things you have no experience in. You're doing a great job of replacing CollegeDouche.
FWIW, you can keep your Obubba. I certainly have no use for him; and apparently no one else does either.
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... actually, most of them are.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
They aren't all tied to docks...d2d said:
They aren't doing us any good when they're all tied to a dock...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
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The old WW2 era ones would remain docked. The 10 modern era, death machine carriers would not.d2d said:
... actually, most of them are.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
They aren't all tied to docks...d2d said:
They aren't doing us any good when they're all tied to a dock...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
HTFH -
You're an idiot.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
The old WW2 era ones would remain docked. The 10 modern era, death machine carriers would not.d2d said:
... actually, most of them are.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
They aren't all tied to docks...d2d said:
They aren't doing us any good when they're all tied to a dock...PostGameOrangeSlices said:
HTFH
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By looking into his eyes, George W Bush was able to see into his soul. Maybe we should send W over there to talk to him.
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wait... I thought we were mapping strategy here?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You can when you're engaging in hypothetical WW3 scenarios on a message board.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sorry dude, but you can't remove the most important part of the equation from the problem and expect to get a hypothetical result that would be anything close to reality.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
For the 3rd time, I'm not taking nuclear weapons into consideration in this hypothetical. Christ.oregonblitzkrieg said:
And while you're busy sending them to the 'apocalypse,' MacArthur, they've nuked Seattle, Los Angeles, SFO, etc. from secret bases we don't know exist.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
While I agree it is stupid to compare military might while ignoring nuclear weapons, the fact is that the US Navy and AF is better equipped than the Russian's.HuskiesADW said:Ukraine is a s*** hole because of the corruption by their leaders. Southern Ukraine is agriculturally rich (enough to essentially feed the world). There is a reason why in every invasion of Russia, Ukraine was immediately targeted. Eastern Ukraine also has a lot of valuable natural resources.
I am Ukrainian and know what is going on there from the relatives who still live there. Honestly from what I gather Ukraine will break apart. Crimea first and than followed by Donetsk and Kharkov. At that point neither the U.S. or Europe will give two S***s about Ukraine. They just want to get their hands on Southern/Eastern Ukraine and gain their agriculture for their own benefit. That is the only reason Europe or the U.S. is making a huge issue about what is going on in Ukraine.
I also laugh at the proposed sanctions against Russia by Europe/US. Russia is a nation that is hard to sanction because of their wealth of natural resources. Europe will not do it as Russia will shut down the flow of natural gas into Europe. That will hurt Europe's economy more than sanctions will hurt Russia's. The United States alone sanctioning Russia will not have a huge impact without Europe also doing it.
Arguing about military strength between Russia and the U.S. is laughable. Very, very, very few people actually know about the true strength of each other's military might. In the case of Russia and America it won't be the land troops, air force or navy that will decide the outcome. The outcome will be decided by each nations ICBM's, SLBM's, SSBN's and their defense systems against them. Fact is if a war breaks out between Russia and the U.S. the whole world is F***ed because both nations have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the whole wold.
In a total war scenario, one US carrier fleet could destroy an entire country, Russia and China notwithstanding. Ten of them could send Russia and China to the apocalypse.
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Yep, send thousands of these M109 155mm Howitzers with baby nukes in them, lined up along the entire border with Russia, and don't make it a secret after it's done. It used to work great for 50 years against them. It should still work.sarktastic said:
wait... I thought we were mapping strategy here?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
You can when you're engaging in hypothetical WW3 scenarios on a message board.oregonblitzkrieg said:
Sorry dude, but you can't remove the most important part of the equation from the problem and expect to get a hypothetical result that would be anything close to reality.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
For the 3rd time, I'm not taking nuclear weapons into consideration in this hypothetical. Christ.oregonblitzkrieg said:
And while you're busy sending them to the 'apocalypse,' MacArthur, they've nuked Seattle, Los Angeles, SFO, etc. from secret bases we don't know exist.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
While I agree it is stupid to compare military might while ignoring nuclear weapons, the fact is that the US Navy and AF is better equipped than the Russian's.HuskiesADW said:Ukraine is a s*** hole because of the corruption by their leaders. Southern Ukraine is agriculturally rich (enough to essentially feed the world). There is a reason why in every invasion of Russia, Ukraine was immediately targeted. Eastern Ukraine also has a lot of valuable natural resources.
I am Ukrainian and know what is going on there from the relatives who still live there. Honestly from what I gather Ukraine will break apart. Crimea first and than followed by Donetsk and Kharkov. At that point neither the U.S. or Europe will give two S***s about Ukraine. They just want to get their hands on Southern/Eastern Ukraine and gain their agriculture for their own benefit. That is the only reason Europe or the U.S. is making a huge issue about what is going on in Ukraine.
I also laugh at the proposed sanctions against Russia by Europe/US. Russia is a nation that is hard to sanction because of their wealth of natural resources. Europe will not do it as Russia will shut down the flow of natural gas into Europe. That will hurt Europe's economy more than sanctions will hurt Russia's. The United States alone sanctioning Russia will not have a huge impact without Europe also doing it.
Arguing about military strength between Russia and the U.S. is laughable. Very, very, very few people actually know about the true strength of each other's military might. In the case of Russia and America it won't be the land troops, air force or navy that will decide the outcome. The outcome will be decided by each nations ICBM's, SLBM's, SSBN's and their defense systems against them. Fact is if a war breaks out between Russia and the U.S. the whole world is F***ed because both nations have enough nuclear weapons to destroy the whole wold.
In a total war scenario, one US carrier fleet could destroy an entire country, Russia and China notwithstanding. Ten of them could send Russia and China to the apocalypse.
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