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pawz said:
TwoRaceBannon said:I remember when Trump was mocked as a retard for talking about herd immunity
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2041 will be specialDerekJohnson said:pawz said:
TwoRaceBannon said:I remember when Trump was mocked as a retard for talking about herd immunity
We could have got there without the vaxweeksdecades to flatten the curve. -
Geezus you swallow like a $5 whore. Fow Chee and the CDC last year said herd immunity was comprised of those vaccinated plus those who had been infected. Now, it's just counting vaccinated. Fow Chee and the incompetent CDC are not to be trusted. When Fow Chee won't let vaccinated people not wear a mask indoors and just now says they can take a walk on the beach without a mask, you have to be a blue ribbon sheeple to believe a word they say. For me, the latest lockdowns are criminally incompetent. But for a leftard, this just isn't a voting issue because of the high character of Fow Chee and the dementia patient in the Oval Office.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I think that's the big unknown since the % needed for herd immunity can vary wildly by disease. The problem is compounded when Fauci and the public health apparatus aren't willing to stick their necks out and at least start making estimates, or even so much as consider natural infection as part of the herd immunity equation.hardhat said:
I'm wondering what exactly would achieve herd immunity. So many countries had very strict lockdowns but that didn't seem to work. From everything I've seen, the vaccines do work, at least for protecting the vulnerable and those in high risk areas. So I'd want my parents to have it. But I'm not sure we need kids to have it. And it does sound harsh to say virus gonna virus, but it seems herd immunity is only achieved with a combination of antibodies in those who had it (99%) and those who get the vaccine. I wouldn't tell adults not to get it, but I feel our public health experts are going to drag this out for years with endless lockdowns and mask mandates.GreenRiverGatorz said:
From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.EsophagealFeces said:Well, he’s right
@BleachedAnusDawg is right in that we'll probably never technically reach herd immunity and eradicate the disease. But a good outcome is one where enough people build up immunity to the point where the worst case scenario is this thing kills people at the same clip as the flu. Say, under 50k a year. -
The actual best go forward outcome is to treat with antiGreenRiverGatorz said:
I think that's the big unknown since the % needed for herd immunity can vary wildly by disease. The problem is compounded when Fauci and the public health apparatus aren't willing to stick their necks out and at least start making estimates, or even so much as consider natural infection as part of the herd immunity equation.hardhat said:
I'm wondering what exactly would achieve herd immunity. So many countries had very strict lockdowns but that didn't seem to work. From everything I've seen, the vaccines do work, at least for protecting the vulnerable and those in high risk areas. So I'd want my parents to have it. But I'm not sure we need kids to have it. And it does sound harsh to say virus gonna virus, but it seems herd immunity is only achieved with a combination of antibodies in those who had it (99%) and those who get the vaccine. I wouldn't tell adults not to get it, but I feel our public health experts are going to drag this out for years with endless lockdowns and mask mandates.GreenRiverGatorz said:
From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.EsophagealFeces said:Well, he’s right
@BleachedAnusDawg is right in that we'll probably never technically reach herd immunity and eradicate the disease. But a good outcome is one where enough people build up immunity to the point where the worst case scenario is this thing kills people at the same clip as the flu. Say, under 50k a year.
You and I were right. “Vaccines” or whatever the hell this thing is called is going to need to be an endless thing once you get on the program.TurdBomber said:
Healthy people build natural immunity from exposure to small amounts of the virus.GreenRiverGatorz said:
From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.EsophagealFeces said:Well, he’s right
Unhealthy people and fraidy cats are getting vaccinated, which creates "vaccine-dependent immunity." Problem with Pfizer and Moderna is they do the work for your body, while J&J is old school and works with your immune system to develop immunity, not alongside it.
We made a trade-off to flatten the curve at the beginning. That was fine. But the continuous shut-downs for months interfered with and prevented natural herd immunity. We lost the ability to suppress the virus by May of 2020. Schools and businesses where people could socially distance should have been re-opened at that point. Not doing so delayed natural herd immunity big-time.
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Gee, it's almost as if I just said that exact fucking thing. Try reading.WestlinnDuck said:
Geezus you swallow like a $5 whore. Fow Chee and the CDC last year said herd immunity was comprised of those vaccinated plus those who had been infected. Now, it's just counting vaccinated. Fow Chee and the incompetent CDC are not to be trusted. When Fow Chee won't let vaccinated people not wear a mask indoors and just now says they can take a walk on the beach without a mask, you have to be a blue ribbon sheeple to believe a word they say. For me, the latest lockdowns are criminally incompetent. But for a leftard, this just isn't a voting issue because of the high character of Fow Chee and the dementia patient in the Oval Office.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I think that's the big unknown since the % needed for herd immunity can vary wildly by disease. The problem is compounded when Fauci and the public health apparatus aren't willing to stick their necks out and at least start making estimates, or even so much as consider natural infection as part of the herd immunity equation.hardhat said:
I'm wondering what exactly would achieve herd immunity. So many countries had very strict lockdowns but that didn't seem to work. From everything I've seen, the vaccines do work, at least for protecting the vulnerable and those in high risk areas. So I'd want my parents to have it. But I'm not sure we need kids to have it. And it does sound harsh to say virus gonna virus, but it seems herd immunity is only achieved with a combination of antibodies in those who had it (99%) and those who get the vaccine. I wouldn't tell adults not to get it, but I feel our public health experts are going to drag this out for years with endless lockdowns and mask mandates.GreenRiverGatorz said:
From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.EsophagealFeces said:Well, he’s right
@BleachedAnusDawg is right in that we'll probably never technically reach herd immunity and eradicate the disease. But a good outcome is one where enough people build up immunity to the point where the worst case scenario is this thing kills people at the same clip as the flu. Say, under 50k a year. -
The older Vector Type versions, like J&J, from what I have read, train your immune system for more general threats, versus the rMNA vaccines which are more specific and targeted to combat the specific virus, and apparently some variants, too, albeit at a lesser rate of effectiveness.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Curious about this piece. What makes "vaccine dependent" immunity any different than natural immunity from infection? Is there anything to suggest that the latter is any better at protecting against the virus, including resistance to newer variants?TurdBomber said:
Unhealthy people and fraidy cats are getting vaccinated, which creates "vaccine-dependent immunity." Problem with Pfizer and Moderna is they do the work for your body, while J&J is old school and works with your immune system to develop immunity, not alongside it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.EsophagealFeces said:Well, he’s right
Dr. Marty Makary, who is firmly in the camp of "open the fuck up and tell Fauci to shove it" certainly talks about the two as though they're interchangeable, and this is the first I've heard anyone suggest the vaccine would be less effective than previously having the infection.
The newer types are more foreign to your body's natural immune system, and we haven't had enough time to see if they will intertwine with your natural immune system, or - as they were designed - essentially replace aspects of it. The new rMNA stuff is very promising for treating future cancers and other stuff that we can't determine the origins of, but it's pretty iron-clad that naturally developed bodily immunity better prepares populations for more general threats, such as variants of the current Covid virus.
Another concern is that the current virus is essentially morphing to get around a new type of more potent vaccine it hasn't seen before, which could result in a much stronger, foreign variants than our bodies are used to handling and combatting without any vaccines.
This is how we got superbugs and how MRSA became such a problem as people used more and more hand sanitizer and anti-bacterial soaps that killed both good and bad bacteria, leaving us even more susceptible to newer, stronger forms of bacteria.
Most times a scatter gun is better overall at controlling a threat than a sniper rifle. -
Sure. Just not a voting issue for a leftard. All that high character and devotion to SCIENCE.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Gee, it's almost as if I just said that exact fucking thing. Try reading.WestlinnDuck said:
Geezus you swallow like a $5 whore. Fow Chee and the CDC last year said herd immunity was comprised of those vaccinated plus those who had been infected. Now, it's just counting vaccinated. Fow Chee and the incompetent CDC are not to be trusted. When Fow Chee won't let vaccinated people not wear a mask indoors and just now says they can take a walk on the beach without a mask, you have to be a blue ribbon sheeple to believe a word they say. For me, the latest lockdowns are criminally incompetent. But for a leftard, this just isn't a voting issue because of the high character of Fow Chee and the dementia patient in the Oval Office.GreenRiverGatorz said:
I think that's the big unknown since the % needed for herd immunity can vary wildly by disease. The problem is compounded when Fauci and the public health apparatus aren't willing to stick their necks out and at least start making estimates, or even so much as consider natural infection as part of the herd immunity equation.hardhat said:
I'm wondering what exactly would achieve herd immunity. So many countries had very strict lockdowns but that didn't seem to work. From everything I've seen, the vaccines do work, at least for protecting the vulnerable and those in high risk areas. So I'd want my parents to have it. But I'm not sure we need kids to have it. And it does sound harsh to say virus gonna virus, but it seems herd immunity is only achieved with a combination of antibodies in those who had it (99%) and those who get the vaccine. I wouldn't tell adults not to get it, but I feel our public health experts are going to drag this out for years with endless lockdowns and mask mandates.GreenRiverGatorz said:
From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.EsophagealFeces said:Well, he’s right
@BleachedAnusDawg is right in that we'll probably never technically reach herd immunity and eradicate the disease. But a good outcome is one where enough people build up immunity to the point where the worst case scenario is this thing kills people at the same clip as the flu. Say, under 50k a year. -
I'm from the George Carlin/Swim in the East River school of auto-immune system enhancement.TurdBomber said:
The older Vector Type versions, like J&J, from what I have read, train your immune system for more general threats, versus the rMNA vaccines which are more specific and targeted to combat the specific virus, and apparently some variants, too, albeit at a lesser rate of effectiveness.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Curious about this piece. What makes "vaccine dependent" immunity any different than natural immunity from infection? Is there anything to suggest that the latter is any better at protecting against the virus, including resistance to newer variants?TurdBomber said:
Unhealthy people and fraidy cats are getting vaccinated, which creates "vaccine-dependent immunity." Problem with Pfizer and Moderna is they do the work for your body, while J&J is old school and works with your immune system to develop immunity, not alongside it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.EsophagealFeces said:Well, he’s right
Dr. Marty Makary, who is firmly in the camp of "open the fuck up and tell Fauci to shove it" certainly talks about the two as though they're interchangeable, and this is the first I've heard anyone suggest the vaccine would be less effective than previously having the infection.
The newer types are more foreign to your body's natural immune system, and we haven't had enough time to see if they will intertwine with your natural immune system, or - as they were designed - essentially replace aspects of it. The new rMNA stuff is very promising for treating future cancers and other stuff that we can't determine the origins of, but it's pretty iron-clad that naturally developed bodily immunity better prepares populations for more general threats, such as variants of the current Covid virus.
Another concern is that the current virus is essentially morphing to get around a new type of more potent vaccine it hasn't seen before, which could result in a much stronger, foreign variants than our bodies are used to handling and combatting without any vaccines.
This is how we got superbugs and how MRSA became such a problem as people used more and more hand sanitizer and anti-bacterial soaps that killed both good and bad bacteria, leaving us even more susceptible to newer, stronger forms of bacteria.
Most times a scatter gun is better overall at controlling a threat than a sniper rifle.
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Most likely explanation for the massive increase in asthma is the helicopter moms who keep there kids in a sterile bubble. No pets, hepa filters, limited play outside, sterilize the binky if it hit the floor. I was raised feral and in my grade school there was one kid in school that I knew had asthma. Probably more, but really limited. My son's first grade soccer team had three kids using inhalers before a match. My kids grew up with a cat in their crib after week one. Outside crawling on the grass as soon as they could crawl. Cat and dog fur everywhere.PurpleThrobber said:
I'm from the George Carlin/Swim in the East River school of auto-immune system enhancement.TurdBomber said:
The older Vector Type versions, like J&J, from what I have read, train your immune system for more general threats, versus the rMNA vaccines which are more specific and targeted to combat the specific virus, and apparently some variants, too, albeit at a lesser rate of effectiveness.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Curious about this piece. What makes "vaccine dependent" immunity any different than natural immunity from infection? Is there anything to suggest that the latter is any better at protecting against the virus, including resistance to newer variants?TurdBomber said:
Unhealthy people and fraidy cats are getting vaccinated, which creates "vaccine-dependent immunity." Problem with Pfizer and Moderna is they do the work for your body, while J&J is old school and works with your immune system to develop immunity, not alongside it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.EsophagealFeces said:Well, he’s right
Dr. Marty Makary, who is firmly in the camp of "open the fuck up and tell Fauci to shove it" certainly talks about the two as though they're interchangeable, and this is the first I've heard anyone suggest the vaccine would be less effective than previously having the infection.
The newer types are more foreign to your body's natural immune system, and we haven't had enough time to see if they will intertwine with your natural immune system, or - as they were designed - essentially replace aspects of it. The new rMNA stuff is very promising for treating future cancers and other stuff that we can't determine the origins of, but it's pretty iron-clad that naturally developed bodily immunity better prepares populations for more general threats, such as variants of the current Covid virus.
Another concern is that the current virus is essentially morphing to get around a new type of more potent vaccine it hasn't seen before, which could result in a much stronger, foreign variants than our bodies are used to handling and combatting without any vaccines.
This is how we got superbugs and how MRSA became such a problem as people used more and more hand sanitizer and anti-bacterial soaps that killed both good and bad bacteria, leaving us even more susceptible to newer, stronger forms of bacteria.
Most times a scatter gun is better overall at controlling a threat than a sniper rifle. -
Rogan has been a target for awhile. Nothing will happen. Rogan will continue on.PurpleThrobber said:
His voice, his choice.doogie said:His body his choice?
Let the market decide whether his opinion and belief is valid. Silencing opposing thought is truly unAmerican.
Even dumbass opinions and doublethink like the crap @TheKobeStopper spews deserve to be heard. Mocked and ridiculed as fuckery, but no problem at all with giving the shills a platform to get destroyed.
STFU =/= cancel.
