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There will never be herd immunity, nor will COVID be eradicated through vaccines. It's a cold virus that will constantly evolve. Have fun getting a yearly booster shot for something far less of a threat than the Spanish flu was...you know, the common flu virus that we've learned to deal with and not worry about distancing, masks, shutdowns, etc. This will be flu v2 moving forward.
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I have seen very few antimaskers in the produce section....
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"There will never be herd immunity, nor will COVID be eradicated through vaccines. It's a cold virus that will constantly evolve."
Anyone else find it hilarious that it takes "@BleachedAnusDawg" to say this?
When my wife asks, "Where'd you hear that?" I'll have to Answer "BleachedAnusDawg."
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Probably because Fuhrer's Inslee and Brown compel businesses to require them.HuskyJW said:I have seen very few antimaskers in the produce section....
Maybe he’s on to something
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Curious about this piece. What makes "vaccine dependent" immunity any different than natural immunity from infection? Is there anything to suggest that the latter is any better at protecting against the virus, including resistance to newer variants?TurdBomber said:
Unhealthy people and fraidy cats are getting vaccinated, which creates "vaccine-dependent immunity." Problem with Pfizer and Moderna is they do the work for your body, while J&J is old school and works with your immune system to develop immunity, not alongside it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.EsophagealFeces said:Well, he’s right
Dr. Marty Makary, who is firmly in the camp of "open the fuck up and tell Fauci to shove it" certainly talks about the two as though they're interchangeable, and this is the first I've heard anyone suggest the vaccine would be less effective than previously having the infection.
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You mean two yearspawz said:
Two weeks to flatten the curve.RaceBannon said:I remember when Trump was mocked as a retard for talking about herd immunity
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I'm wondering what exactly would achieve herd immunity. So many countries had very strict lockdowns but that didn't seem to work. From everything I've seen, the vaccines do work, at least for protecting the vulnerable and those in high risk areas. So I'd want my parents to have it. But I'm not sure we need kids to have it. And it does sound harsh to say virus gonna virus, but it seems herd immunity is only achieved with a combination of antibodies in those who had it (99%) and those who get the vaccine. I wouldn't tell adults not to get it, but I feel our public health experts are going to drag this out for years with endless lockdowns and mask mandates.GreenRiverGatorz said:
From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.EsophagealFeces said:Well, he’s right
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But how many 98 year old grannies with cancer would have died of the Vid in the process?RaceBannon said:I remember when Trump was mocked as a retard for talking about herd immunity
We could have got there without the vax
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I listened to some fucktard from IHME use weasel words to explain that Washington will get to herd immunity, but it will just take....tim. A long tim. So I guess we'll just mask up and lockdown until 2023.PurpleThrobber said:
But how many 98 year old grannies with cancer would have died of the Vid in the process?RaceBannon said:I remember when Trump was mocked as a retard for talking about herd immunity
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I think that's the big unknown since the % needed for herd immunity can vary wildly by disease. The problem is compounded when Fauci and the public health apparatus aren't willing to stick their necks out and at least start making estimates, or even so much as consider natural infection as part of the herd immunity equation.hardhat said:
I'm wondering what exactly would achieve herd immunity. So many countries had very strict lockdowns but that didn't seem to work. From everything I've seen, the vaccines do work, at least for protecting the vulnerable and those in high risk areas. So I'd want my parents to have it. But I'm not sure we need kids to have it. And it does sound harsh to say virus gonna virus, but it seems herd immunity is only achieved with a combination of antibodies in those who had it (99%) and those who get the vaccine. I wouldn't tell adults not to get it, but I feel our public health experts are going to drag this out for years with endless lockdowns and mask mandates.GreenRiverGatorz said:
From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.EsophagealFeces said:Well, he’s right
@BleachedAnusDawg is right in that we'll probably never technically reach herd immunity and eradicate the disease. But a good outcome is one where enough people build up immunity to the point where the worst case scenario is this thing kills people at the same clip as the flu. Say, under 50k a year.
