Well, bye, Joe Rogan.

PurpleThrobber

https://twitter.com/joeroganhq/status/1387142777968816128?s=21

First they came for Joe...

Rogan has been anti mask for months. He believes a healthy lifestyle, diet and exercise are more effective means to build one’s immune system

Ask yourself why the statists are now turning their sights on him.

doogie

His body his choice?

PurpleThrobber

doogie said:

His body his choice?

His voice, his choice.

Let the market decide whether his opinion and belief is valid. Silencing opposing thought is truly unAmerican.

Even dumbass opinions and doublethink like the crap @TheKobeStopper spews deserve to be heard. Mocked and ridiculed as fuckery, but no problem at all with giving the shills a platform to get destroyed.

STFU =/= cancel.

EsophagealFeces

Well, he’s right

GreenRiverGatorz

EsophagealFeces said:

Well, he’s right

From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.

PurpleThrobber

GreenRiverGatorz said:

EsophagealFeces said:

Well, he’s right

From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.

The Throbber is in favor a Purge like night where debauchery and sexual hijinks are allowed simply in the name of establishing herd immunity.

Do it for the children, so to speak.

GreenRiverGatorz

PurpleThrobber said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

EsophagealFeces said:

Well, he’s right

From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.

The Throbber is in favor a Purge like night where debauchery and sexual hijinks are allowed simply in the name of establishing herd immunity.

Do it for the children, so to speak.

A handful of scrips for antibiotics to tackle the syphilis is a hell of a lot cheaper than this vaccine rollout.

doogie

Herd immunity has happened.

It’s only the size of the herd being debated now.

RaceBannon

I remember when Trump was mocked as a retard for talking about herd immunity

We could have got there without the vax

pawz

RaceBannon said:

I remember when Trump was mocked as a retard for talking about herd immunity

We could have got there without the vax

Two weeks to flatten the curve.

TurdBomber

GreenRiverGatorz said:

EsophagealFeces said:

Well, he’s right

From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.

Healthy people build natural immunity from exposure to small amounts of the virus.

Unhealthy people and fraidy cats are getting vaccinated, which creates "vaccine-dependent immunity." Problem with Pfizer and Moderna is they do the work for your body, while J&J is old school and works with your immune system to develop immunity, not alongside it.

We made a trade-off to flatten the curve at the beginning. That was fine. But the continuous shut-downs for months interfered with and prevented natural herd immunity. We lost the ability to suppress the virus by May of 2020. Schools and businesses where people could socially distance should have been re-opened at that point. Not doing so delayed natural herd immunity big-time.

BleachedAnusDawg

There will never be herd immunity, nor will COVID be eradicated through vaccines. It's a cold virus that will constantly evolve. Have fun getting a yearly booster shot for something far less of a threat than the Spanish flu was...you know, the common flu virus that we've learned to deal with and not worry about distancing, masks, shutdowns, etc. This will be flu v2 moving forward.

HuskyJW

I have seen very few antimaskers in the produce section....

Maybe he’s on to something

TurdBomber

"There will never be herd immunity, nor will COVID be eradicated through vaccines. It's a cold virus that will constantly evolve."

Anyone else find it hilarious that it takes "@BleachedAnusDawg" to say this?

When my wife asks, "Where'd you hear that?" I'll have to Answer "BleachedAnusDawg."

This, right here, is why I'm here,

pawz

HuskyJW said:

I have seen very few antimaskers in the produce section....

Maybe he’s on to something

Probably because Fuhrer's Inslee and Brown compel businesses to require them.

Otherwise your disengenuous comment was a homerun.

GreenRiverGatorz

TurdBomber said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

EsophagealFeces said:

Well, he’s right

From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.

Unhealthy people and fraidy cats are getting vaccinated, which creates "vaccine-dependent immunity." Problem with Pfizer and Moderna is they do the work for your body, while J&J is old school and works with your immune system to develop immunity, not alongside it.

Curious about this piece. What makes "vaccine dependent" immunity any different than natural immunity from infection? Is there anything to suggest that the latter is any better at protecting against the virus, including resistance to newer variants?

Dr. Marty Makary, who is firmly in the camp of "open the fuck up and tell Fauci to shove it" certainly talks about the two as though they're interchangeable, and this is the first I've heard anyone suggest the vaccine would be less effective than previously having the infection.

Tequilla

pawz said:

RaceBannon said:

I remember when Trump was mocked as a retard for talking about herd immunity

We could have got there without the vax

Two weeks to flatten the curve.

You mean two years

hardhat

GreenRiverGatorz said:

EsophagealFeces said:

Well, he’s right

From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.

I'm wondering what exactly would achieve herd immunity. So many countries had very strict lockdowns but that didn't seem to work. From everything I've seen, the vaccines do work, at least for protecting the vulnerable and those in high risk areas. So I'd want my parents to have it. But I'm not sure we need kids to have it. And it does sound harsh to say virus gonna virus, but it seems herd immunity is only achieved with a combination of antibodies in those who had it (99%) and those who get the vaccine. I wouldn't tell adults not to get it, but I feel our public health experts are going to drag this out for years with endless lockdowns and mask mandates.

PurpleThrobber

RaceBannon said:

I remember when Trump was mocked as a retard for talking about herd immunity

We could have got there without the vax

But how many 98 year old grannies with cancer would have died of the Vid in the process?

hardhat

PurpleThrobber said:

RaceBannon said:

I remember when Trump was mocked as a retard for talking about herd immunity

We could have got there without the vax

But how many 98 year old grannies with cancer would have died of the Vid in the process?

I listened to some fucktard from IHME use weasel words to explain that Washington will get to herd immunity, but it will just take....tim. A long tim. So I guess we'll just mask up and lockdown until 2023.

GreenRiverGatorz

hardhat said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

EsophagealFeces said:

Well, he’s right

From a personal health standpoint, yes. From a herd immunity standpoint, no.

I'm wondering what exactly would achieve herd immunity. So many countries had very strict lockdowns but that didn't seem to work. From everything I've seen, the vaccines do work, at least for protecting the vulnerable and those in high risk areas. So I'd want my parents to have it. But I'm not sure we need kids to have it. And it does sound harsh to say virus gonna virus, but it seems herd immunity is only achieved with a combination of antibodies in those who had it (99%) and those who get the vaccine. I wouldn't tell adults not to get it, but I feel our public health experts are going to drag this out for years with endless lockdowns and mask mandates.

I think that's the big unknown since the % needed for herd immunity can vary wildly by disease. The problem is compounded when Fauci and the public health apparatus aren't willing to stick their necks out and at least start making estimates, or even so much as consider natural infection as part of the herd immunity equation.

@BleachedAnusDawg is right in that we'll probably never technically reach herd immunity and eradicate the disease. But a good outcome is one where enough people build up immunity to the point where the worst case scenario is this thing kills people at the same clip as the flu. Say, under 50k a year.