Another innocent "Angel" lost

SFGbob

RoadTrip said:

SFGbob said:

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

RoadTrip said:

If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.

A person swinging a butcher knife is an immediate life threatening reality.

Depending on proximity. Within reach of the victim, yes. Needs to close the gap and the cop has some other weapon, then it's at least reasonable.

Of course, this then introduces the variable of the cop having to make choice of which weapon to use, and we've already seen how that can go down.

Did you watch the fucking body cam video? She was plenty close enough to the woman she was about to gut.

Yes she was but the officers have to now decide is their own life worth sacrificing over the potential harm or even death of the victim. This is a serious quandry now and all I'm saying is the option should be considered.

So let the black girl stab and kill the other black girl and you'll be called a racist who is indifferent to protecting innocent black lives. Shoot the knife wielding black girl and you're a racist for killing an innocent young black girl. Oh, this is going to turn out great.

EsophagealFeces

SFGbob said:

RoadTrip said:

If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.

A person swinging a butcher knife is an immediate life threatening reality.

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

RoadTrip said:

If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.

A person swinging a butcher knife is an immediate life threatening reality.

Depending on proximity. Within reach of the victim, yes. Needs to close the gap and the cop has some other weapon, then it's at least reasonable.

Of course, this then introduces the variable of the cop having to make choice of which weapon to use, and we've already seen how that can go down.

They say that if someone within 21 feet of you has a knife and heads towards you, you’re getting cut, no matter how fast you shoot. 21 feet is pretty fucking far.

RaceBannon

How do we know that the cop didn't think he was using his taser?


Little weapon confusion humor

creepycoug

EsophagealFeces said:

SFGbob said:

RoadTrip said:

If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.

A person swinging a butcher knife is an immediate life threatening reality.

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

RoadTrip said:

If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.

A person swinging a butcher knife is an immediate life threatening reality.

Depending on proximity. Within reach of the victim, yes. Needs to close the gap and the cop has some other weapon, then it's at least reasonable.

Of course, this then introduces the variable of the cop having to make choice of which weapon to use, and we've already seen how that can go down.

They say that if someone within 21 feet of you has a knife and heads towards you, you’re getting cut, no matter how fast you shoot. 21 feet is pretty fucking far.

21 ft. I’ll have a word with “they”. Someone comes at me bro with a knife and there’s no ambiguity about their intent and I have a gun?

Creep’s not getting cut in that scenario. I’m not that slow with a weapon and my feet work well too.

RaceBannon

https://youtu.be/9wzAGE4quWU

EsophagealFeces

creepycoug said:

EsophagealFeces said:

SFGbob said:

RoadTrip said:

If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.

A person swinging a butcher knife is an immediate life threatening reality.

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

RoadTrip said:

If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.

A person swinging a butcher knife is an immediate life threatening reality.

Depending on proximity. Within reach of the victim, yes. Needs to close the gap and the cop has some other weapon, then it's at least reasonable.

Of course, this then introduces the variable of the cop having to make choice of which weapon to use, and we've already seen how that can go down.

They say that if someone within 21 feet of you has a knife and heads towards you, you’re getting cut, no matter how fast you shoot. 21 feet is pretty fucking far.

21 ft. I’ll have a word with “they”. Someone comes at me bro with a knife and there’s no ambiguity about their intent and I have a gun?

Creep’s not getting cut in that scenario. I’m not that slow with a weapon and my feet work well too.

Well, that’s what they tell cops when they train them. People don’t go down immediately when they get shot. Especially ones on drugs or having psychotic episodes.

WestlinnDuck

I posted a body cam video of a female cop unloading into a knife attacker and having to clear a jam. The don't go down like people think. She was lucky.

creepycoug

EsophagealFeces said:

creepycoug said:

EsophagealFeces said:

SFGbob said:

RoadTrip said:

If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.

A person swinging a butcher knife is an immediate life threatening reality.

creepycoug said:

SFGbob said:

RoadTrip said:

If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.

A person swinging a butcher knife is an immediate life threatening reality.

Depending on proximity. Within reach of the victim, yes. Needs to close the gap and the cop has some other weapon, then it's at least reasonable.

Of course, this then introduces the variable of the cop having to make choice of which weapon to use, and we've already seen how that can go down.

They say that if someone within 21 feet of you has a knife and heads towards you, you’re getting cut, no matter how fast you shoot. 21 feet is pretty fucking far.

21 ft. I’ll have a word with “they”. Someone comes at me bro with a knife and there’s no ambiguity about their intent and I have a gun?

Creep’s not getting cut in that scenario. I’m not that slow with a weapon and my feet work well too.

Well, that’s what they tell cops when they train them. People don’t go down immediately when they get shot. Especially ones on drugs or having psychotic episodes.

Fair poont. Just sayin 21 ft and a gun and this Bobcat walks away without a scrape. Like I said my feet work too. I’m quite ambulatory.

creepycoug

WestlinnDuck said:

I posted a body cam video of a female cop unloading into a knife attacker and having to clear a jam. The don't go down like people think. She was lucky.

Depends on what you’re shootin’ with.

WestlinnDuck

Most cops have 9mm. Not sure what ammo they are using but probably not icky people killer bullets.