Another innocent "Angel" lost
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Agreed. There's a lot of room for improvement in how police generally deescalate situations. But a split second attempt to stab someone is never going to be appropriately met with anything except a firearm. This shooting is a textbook example of quick thinking by a cop that saved a civilian's life.WestlinnDuck said:
Actually, there isn't. Tasers and bean bags are not reliable. If you want to immediately put down a threat like someone trying to kill someone with a knife, you only have one choice - shoot or don't shoot. Either take the shot or trust in fate.RoadTrip said:
I absolutely love your opinions on this matter. I guess my only suggestion in an attempt to quell these police killings is that police should use force which would not end in death. There is plenty of technology they could use which could stop or hinder the threat.BangaRang said:https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/7311835002
Message to Libs on this board, BLM activists, left spazztic politicians......Fuck you
Fuck you for defending lawless thugs/criminals
Fuck you for making every goddam police confrontation white/black. Way too many moving parts to make such lazy, thoughtless claims
Fuck you for being quoted in this article saying we are in the midst of an "Actual genocide". Completely offensive to real victims of real genocides in Congo, Cambodia, WW2, Chile, etc.
Fuck you for never blaming the criminals' actions, which are forcing the officers' hands, proving themselves to be a danger to themselves, the responding cops, and others.
And most of all....
Fuck you for gaslighting me and others like me that want peace and equality of opportunity. It's not our fault or every white cops' fault that your "Heroes" can't follow rules, stay sober, or quit attacking others with deadly weapons.
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So she was armed and could have killed a minorGrundleStiltzkin said:
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Not that technology. The inventor of the taser has come up with something called Bolowrap. Sure this and stun bullets or the bullets that explode on the person and bring them to their knees isn't perfect but it seems to me non-lethal force needs to be improved to the point it can be relied upon.WestlinnDuck said:
Actually, there isn't. Tasers and bean bags are not reliable. If you want to immediately put down a threat like someone trying to kill someone with a knife, you only have one choice - shoot or don't shoot. Either take the shot or trust in fate.RoadTrip said:
I absolutely love your opinions on this matter. I guess my only suggestion in an attempt to quell these police killings is that police should use force which would not end in death. There is plenty of technology they could use which could stop or hinder the threat.BangaRang said:https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/7311835002
Message to Libs on this board, BLM activists, left spazztic politicians......Fuck you
Fuck you for defending lawless thugs/criminals
Fuck you for making every goddam police confrontation white/black. Way too many moving parts to make such lazy, thoughtless claims
Fuck you for being quoted in this article saying we are in the midst of an "Actual genocide". Completely offensive to real victims of real genocides in Congo, Cambodia, WW2, Chile, etc.
Fuck you for never blaming the criminals' actions, which are forcing the officers' hands, proving themselves to be a danger to themselves, the responding cops, and others.
And most of all....
Fuck you for gaslighting me and others like me that want peace and equality of opportunity. It's not our fault or every white cops' fault that your "Heroes" can't follow rules, stay sober, or quit attacking others with deadly weapons.
Fuck you -
Tasers just don’t work often enough to trust them in a life or death situation. I wouldn’t trust my life to one. They’re better used when someone is refusing to comply and aren’t a mortal threat.RoadTrip said:
I absolutely love your opinions on this matter. I guess my only suggestion in an attempt to quell these police killings is that police should use force which would not end in death. There is plenty of technology they could use which could stop or hinder the threat.BangaRang said:https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/7311835002
Message to Libs on this board, BLM activists, left spazztic politicians......Fuck you
Fuck you for defending lawless thugs/criminals
Fuck you for making every goddam police confrontation white/black. Way too many moving parts to make such lazy, thoughtless claims
Fuck you for being quoted in this article saying we are in the midst of an "Actual genocide". Completely offensive to real victims of real genocides in Congo, Cambodia, WW2, Chile, etc.
Fuck you for never blaming the criminals' actions, which are forcing the officers' hands, proving themselves to be a danger to themselves, the responding cops, and others.
And most of all....
Fuck you for gaslighting me and others like me that want peace and equality of opportunity. It's not our fault or every white cops' fault that your "Heroes" can't follow rules, stay sober, or quit attacking others with deadly weapons.
Fuck you -
If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.
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A person swinging a butcher knife is an immediate life threatening reality.RoadTrip said:If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.
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I agree with you. At the very least, it would seem a good place to spend some R&D $$. We have pretty amazing capabilities as a species. We can figure this out.RoadTrip said:If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.
Turn it over the private sector. They'll come up with something. Never say never. -
Depending on proximity. Within reach of the victim, yes. Needs to close the gap and the cop has some other weapon, then it's at least reasonable.SFGbob said:
A person swinging a butcher knife is an immediate life threatening reality.RoadTrip said:If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.
Of course, this then introduces the variable of the cop having to make choice of which weapon to use, and we've already seen how that can go down. -
Did you watch the fucking body cam video? She was plenty close enough to the woman she was about to gut.creepycoug said:
Depending on proximity. Within reach of the victim, yes. Needs to close the gap and the cop has some other weapon, then it's at least reasonable.SFGbob said:
A person swinging a butcher knife is an immediate life threatening reality.RoadTrip said:If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.
Of course, this then introduces the variable of the cop having to make choice of which weapon to use, and we've already seen how that can go down. -
Yes she was but the officers have to now decide is their own life worth sacrificing over the potential harm or even death of the victim. This is a serious quandry now and all I'm saying is the option should be considered.SFGbob said:
Did you watch the fucking body cam video? She was plenty close enough to the woman she was about to gut.creepycoug said:
Depending on proximity. Within reach of the victim, yes. Needs to close the gap and the cop has some other weapon, then it's at least reasonable.SFGbob said:
A person swinging a butcher knife is an immediate life threatening reality.RoadTrip said:If the criminal has a gun, I agree but there are countless stories where they don't or the weapon is not immediately life threatening. In situations like this, I think using these alternatives methods could reduce the unfortunate cases of unnecessary death. I understand where you and WLD are coming from and you're probably right in that nothing will placate the left and media. They are promoting the violence not because they care about people dying but because they want more death and violence to keep them in power.
Of course, this then introduces the variable of the cop having to make choice of which weapon to use, and we've already seen how that can go down.
