Mark Bruener, Grunge, Flannel Shirt fashion, Creepycoug, and a proud and fullsome history of houses of ill repute. So badass that we? were off-limits to the military during the middle last century. That's badass.
Rittzville belongs on the list. Aberdeen is probably the biggest shit hole in Washington. I feel depressed just driving thru on the way to to Ocean.
Aberdeen wins hands down. Depressed former industry town. Highest number of tweakers and junkies per capita. Marine layer that leaves town in a perpetual state of fog and clouds. Check, check, and check.
Let's just say that I agree with the two posters who said it's easier to list the small towns in Washington that are not shit holes.
So far for me, I've got Waterville, Chelan, Port Townsend, Walla Walla and Sequim. What, you guys like Concrete, Elma, Rochester, Centralia, Kelso, Yakima, Vader, Pe Ell, Burlington Edison ....?
I laff at @RoadDawg55 and his friends who mock the 'Deen they experience "on our way to the beach," as if the beach communities here outside of Long Beach aren't shit holes themselves. Ocean Shores is a bigger shit hole than Aberdeen; you can smell the corn dog fryer from fucking Hoquiam, which should, btw, make the list over Aberdeen (no; they're not the same place). I got news for ya: if you're headed to the beaches here, you like shit holes.
No doubt about it. If there is only one thing the east coast does better than the west coast, it's the preservation of small towns. Yeah, I've driven through some shit holes in New England and Upstate, but fuck, the ratio of small towns I would not live in to those I would in that part of the country is not even close to what it is here.
Rittzville belongs on the list. Aberdeen is probably the biggest shit hole in Washington. I feel depressed just driving thru on the way to to Ocean.
Aberdeen wins hands down. Depressed former industry town. Highest number of tweakers and junkies per capita. Marine layer that leaves town in a perpetual state of fog and clouds. Check, check, and check.
It doesn't win hands down. It's up there, but it has plenty of steep competition, sadly.
Let's just say that I agree with the two posters who said it's easier to list the small towns in Washington that are not shit holes.
So far for me, I've got Waterville, Chelan, Port Townsend, Walla Walla and Sequim. What, you guys like Concrete, Elma, Rochester, Centralia, Kelso, Yakima, Vader, Pe Ell, Burlington Edison ....?
I laff at @RoadDawg55 and his friends who mock the 'Deen they experience "on our way to the beach," as if the beach communities here outside of Long Beach aren't shit holes themselves. Ocean Shores is a bigger shit hole than Aberdeen; you can smell the corn dog fryer from fucking Hoquiam, which should, btw, make the list over Aberdeen (no; they're not the same place). I got news for ya: if you're headed to the beaches here, you like shit holes.
No doubt about it. If there is only one thing the east coast does better than the west coast, it's the preservation of small towns. Yeah, I've driven through some shit holes in New England and Upstate, but fuck, the ratio of small towns I would not live in to those I would in that part of the country is not even close to what it is here.
Let's just say that I agree with the two posters who said it's easier to list the small towns in Washington that are not shit holes.
So far for me, I've got Waterville, Chelan, Port Townsend, Walla Walla and Sequim. What, you guys like Concrete, Elma, Rochester, Centralia, Kelso, Yakima, Vader, Pe Ell, Burlington Edison ....?
I laff at @RoadDawg55 and his friends who mock the 'Deen they experience "on our way to the beach," as if the beach communities here outside of Long Beach aren't shit holes themselves. Ocean Shores is a bigger shit hole than Aberdeen; you can smell the corn dog fryer from fucking Hoquiam, which should, btw, make the list over Aberdeen (no; they're not the same place). I got news for ya: if you're headed to the beaches here, you like shit holes.
No doubt about it. If there is only one thing the east coast does better than the west coast, it's the preservation of small towns. Yeah, I've driven through some shit holes in New England and Upstate, but fuck, the ratio of small towns I would not live in to those I would in that part of the country is not even close to what it is here.
Interesting. Do you know why that is?
Old money and towns that are actually worth preserving
Mark Bruener, Grunge, Flannel Shirt fashion, Creepycoug, and a proud and fullsome history of houses of ill repute. So badass that we? were off-limits to the military during the middle last century. That's badass.
Shelton avoids making these lists by sending people around town on Highway 101 rather than have them come through the down town. Just about the whole way, you get an awesome view of the Olympics instead of a run-down logging town.
The people who come into town figure out they should have taken the bypass.
Shelton avoids making these lists by sending people around town on Highway 101 rather than have them come through the down town. Just about the whole way, you get an awesome view of the Olympics instead of a run-down logging town.
The people who come into town figure out they should have taken the bypass.
In all honesty, while Shelton probably has as much white trash as Aberdeen (but also probably fewer tweakers at least to the dead eye), it is a MUCH cleaner and tidier town than Aberdeen.
One thing Aberdeen has over most of the small towns in Washington is an upper hill area with houses built by turn-of-the-century timber barons. Many of them are still in good condition and the sort of thing you have to drive to Washington Park or Millionaires Row on Capital Hill to see. Sadly, even many of these old gems are falling into disrepair. The old lower Broadway area of Aberdeen was a very, very nice neighborhood. You won't see it on your way to Ocean Shores for a corn dog, but it's there.
Overall, I'd live in Shelton in a heartbeat over Aberdeen, and it's not even close.
Let's just say that I agree with the two posters who said it's easier to list the small towns in Washington that are not shit holes.
So far for me, I've got Waterville, Chelan, Port Townsend, Walla Walla and Sequim. What, you guys like Concrete, Elma, Rochester, Centralia, Kelso, Yakima, Vader, Pe Ell, Burlington Edison ....?
I laff at @RoadDawg55 and his friends who mock the 'Deen they experience "on our way to the beach," as if the beach communities here outside of Long Beach aren't shit holes themselves. Ocean Shores is a bigger shit hole than Aberdeen; you can smell the corn dog fryer from fucking Hoquiam, which should, btw, make the list over Aberdeen (no; they're not the same place). I got news for ya: if you're headed to the beaches here, you like shit holes.
No doubt about it. If there is only one thing the east coast does better than the west coast, it's the preservation of small towns. Yeah, I've driven through some shit holes in New England and Upstate, but fuck, the ratio of small towns I would not live in to those I would in that part of the country is not even close to what it is here.
Interesting. Do you know why that is?
Old money and towns that are actually worth preserving
The east coast is so old in comparison that they already tore down the old shit even though what is there now is old shit it was built to last and has historic value
Let's just say that I agree with the two posters who said it's easier to list the small towns in Washington that are not shit holes.
So far for me, I've got Waterville, Chelan, Port Townsend, Walla Walla and Sequim. What, you guys like Concrete, Elma, Rochester, Centralia, Kelso, Yakima, Vader, Pe Ell, Burlington Edison ....?
I laff at @RoadDawg55 and his friends who mock the 'Deen they experience "on our way to the beach," as if the beach communities here outside of Long Beach aren't shit holes themselves. Ocean Shores is a bigger shit hole than Aberdeen; you can smell the corn dog fryer from fucking Hoquiam, which should, btw, make the list over Aberdeen (no; they're not the same place). I got news for ya: if you're headed to the beaches here, you like shit holes.
No doubt about it. If there is only one thing the east coast does better than the west coast, it's the preservation of small towns. Yeah, I've driven through some shit holes in New England and Upstate, but fuck, the ratio of small towns I would not live in to those I would in that part of the country is not even close to what it is here.
Interesting. Do you know why that is?
Old money and towns that are actually worth preserving
The east coast is so old in comparison that they already tore down the old shit even though what is there now is old shit it was built to last and has historic value
That's really it in my view. What happened in Aberdeen, for example, happened all across New England 50+ years earlier. So they've faced reality that the quarry or textile mill or whatever is gone for good and have had more tim to recover and do something.
Plus, as you said, there are things that have inherent historical value in a lot of these places. For example, even former working class towns built outsized churches, and many of them, at a time when we? invested in serious architecture. Think of those as like anchor tenants. It's something to build on.
One other thing going for them too that's less common out west: there are a lot of small towns that are home to serious colleges/universities, and many of those have Yuge endowments. It's not uncommon in New England to roll through a small town out in the middle of butt fuck nowhere, and there be a small private college with $1 billion + in invested assets AND attracting kids from literally all over the globe. Those kids and their visitors spend money at restaurants and coffee shops. And those schools often partner with the towns for this and that, because the schools benefit from an attractive town setting as they compete for the best students. So there's that. Go visit, for example, the Northampton/Amherst/Hadley area of western Mass. You've got Smith College, Amherst College, UMass @ Amherst, and Mount Holyoke College. You take those schools out of those towns and they are completely different places out in the middle of bumblefuck western Mass.
Then there are the towns that are within driving distance of New York City. So all those towns along the Hudson, like Tarrytown, NY, are sleepy burgs that are full of people who make their money in Manhattan and want to live in a small community. Westchester County is full of wealthy small towns ... like Ralph Lauren and other celebs live in them-level of wealthy. That's a different category obviously, which is like calling Carmel California a small town. It is, technically, but ....
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So far for me, I've got Waterville, Chelan, Port Townsend, Walla Walla and Sequim. What, you guys like Concrete, Elma, Rochester, Centralia, Kelso, Yakima, Vader, Pe Ell, Burlington Edison ....?
I laff at @RoadDawg55 and his friends who mock the 'Deen they experience "on our way to the beach," as if the beach communities here outside of Long Beach aren't shit holes themselves. Ocean Shores is a bigger shit hole than Aberdeen; you can smell the corn dog fryer from fucking Hoquiam, which should, btw, make the list over Aberdeen (no; they're not the same place). I got news for ya: if you're headed to the beaches here, you like shit holes.
No doubt about it. If there is only one thing the east coast does better than the west coast, it's the preservation of small towns. Yeah, I've driven through some shit holes in New England and Upstate, but fuck, the ratio of small towns I would not live in to those I would in that part of the country is not even close to what it is here.
Unless you all have been to Inchellium or Wellpinit, every town listed in this thread is a fucking cosmopolitan destination spot.
@swaye, true?
The people who come into town figure out they should have taken the bypass.
One thing Aberdeen has over most of the small towns in Washington is an upper hill area with houses built by turn-of-the-century timber barons. Many of them are still in good condition and the sort of thing you have to drive to Washington Park or Millionaires Row on Capital Hill to see. Sadly, even many of these old gems are falling into disrepair. The old lower Broadway area of Aberdeen was a very, very nice neighborhood. You won't see it on your way to Ocean Shores for a corn dog, but it's there.
Overall, I'd live in Shelton in a heartbeat over Aberdeen, and it's not even close.
Plus, as you said, there are things that have inherent historical value in a lot of these places. For example, even former working class towns built outsized churches, and many of them, at a time when we? invested in serious architecture. Think of those as like anchor tenants. It's something to build on.
One other thing going for them too that's less common out west: there are a lot of small towns that are home to serious colleges/universities, and many of those have Yuge endowments. It's not uncommon in New England to roll through a small town out in the middle of butt fuck nowhere, and there be a small private college with $1 billion + in invested assets AND attracting kids from literally all over the globe. Those kids and their visitors spend money at restaurants and coffee shops. And those schools often partner with the towns for this and that, because the schools benefit from an attractive town setting as they compete for the best students. So there's that. Go visit, for example, the Northampton/Amherst/Hadley area of western Mass. You've got Smith College, Amherst College, UMass @ Amherst, and Mount Holyoke College. You take those schools out of those towns and they are completely different places out in the middle of bumblefuck western Mass.
Then there are the towns that are within driving distance of New York City. So all those towns along the Hudson, like Tarrytown, NY, are sleepy burgs that are full of people who make their money in Manhattan and want to live in a small community. Westchester County is full of wealthy small towns ... like Ralph Lauren and other celebs live in them-level of wealthy. That's a different category obviously, which is like calling Carmel California a small town. It is, technically, but ....
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