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Hamilton holds off Verstappen to win tense F1 season-opener

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  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    Was there any passing that happened outside of pit row? Need to decide if I want to watch or not.

    Meanwhile, MotoGP season opener in Qatar was pretty good. Night race, so glowing carbon brake discs and exhaust flames. Lots of passing, lead changes, last second heartbreak. Not a classic (has to be at least 20 passes in the last three laps to come close to that status), but pretty good. Looks like a decent season inbound. Ducati's holeshot device is ridiculous.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,173 Standard Supporter
    F1 has always been the least compelling of all motorsports to watch. Zero passing and very non-competitive among the manufacturers. Hopefully some of the rules changes fix those issues. Still won't watch it because it's a bunch of Eurofags.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    Was there any passing that happened outside of pit row? Need to decide if I want to watch or not.

    Meanwhile, MotoGP season opener in Qatar was pretty good. Night race, so glowing carbon brake discs and exhaust flames. Lots of passing, lead changes, last second heartbreak. Not a classic (has to be at least 20 passes in the last three laps to come close to that status), but pretty good. Looks like a decent season inbound. Ducati's holeshot device is ridiculous.

  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    Finally got around to watching the Romain Grosjean crash in Bahrain. HOLY FUCK! I'm thinking there's a pretty good chance he's a Terminator, so somebody might want to look into that.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Imola this week. Will anyone unseat the Mercs?
  • DerekJohnson
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  • PurpleBaze
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Max with the big 25 points. Incredible start going 3rd to 1st in by the 3rd turn.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Max and Lewis are going to be at each other's throats all season long. The racing this year has been good, I think.

    The comments about the only passing being in the pits was valid a few years ago. There's a decent amount of passing these days with the DRS system in place, but I'll give you that the Mercedes team has been making the racing a bit boring the past few seasons.

    The Drive to Survive series on Netflix is good if you want a peek inside an F1 team for the weekend.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    F1 has always been the least compelling of all motorsports to watch. Zero passing and very non-competitive among the manufacturers. Hopefully some of the rules changes fix those issues. Still won't watch it because it's a bunch of Eurofags.

    Less compelling than oval racing of any kind? No.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    dflea said:

    Max and Lewis are going to be at each other's throats all season long. The racing this year has been good, I think.

    The comments about the only passing being in the pits was valid a few years ago. There's a decent amount of passing these days with the DRS system in place, but I'll give you that the Mercedes team has been making the racing a bit boring the past few seasons.

    The Drive to Survive series on Netflix is good if you want a peek inside an F1 team for the weekend.

    Agree on all counts. Drive to Survive even made Mrs. Beaver a fan of F1.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,173 Standard Supporter
    dflea said:

    F1 has always been the least compelling of all motorsports to watch. Zero passing and very non-competitive among the manufacturers. Hopefully some of the rules changes fix those issues. Still won't watch it because it's a bunch of Eurofags.

    Less compelling than oval racing of any kind? No.
    Yes, because they pass on ovals and can swap paint without making the cars disintegrate.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    dflea said:

    F1 has always been the least compelling of all motorsports to watch. Zero passing and very non-competitive among the manufacturers. Hopefully some of the rules changes fix those issues. Still won't watch it because it's a bunch of Eurofags.

    Less compelling than oval racing of any kind? No.
    Yes, because they pass on ovals and can swap paint without making the cars disintegrate.
    I used to shit all over dirt oval sprints until I actually went and watched, then I found out it's pretty fun. It's white twash as fuck, don't get me wrong, but it's fun. Covering your beer when they go by to avoid flying dirt clots, loud engines, the occasional car tumbling end over end. Good Tims. I'd die of boredom watching it on TV, though, just as I do when somebody has NASCAR on. Turn both ways or GTFO.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,760 Founders Club

    dflea said:

    F1 has always been the least compelling of all motorsports to watch. Zero passing and very non-competitive among the manufacturers. Hopefully some of the rules changes fix those issues. Still won't watch it because it's a bunch of Eurofags.

    Less compelling than oval racing of any kind? No.
    Yes, because they pass on ovals and can swap paint without making the cars disintegrate.
    I used to shit all over dirt oval sprints until I actually went and watched, then I found out it's pretty fun. It's white twash as fuck, don't get me wrong, but it's fun. Covering your beer when they go by to avoid flying dirt clots, loud engines, the occasional car tumbling end over end. Good Tims. I'd die of boredom watching it on TV, though, just as I do when somebody has NASCAR on. Turn both ways or GTFO.
    One of my floor crews raced dirt track in Tenino. He wore Earnhardt gear and even visited Mecca or Daytona for a 500. Wore the black hat and everything and talked like a hick

    We got to talking one day and he grew up in Connecticut as a child of wealth. CSB
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    dflea said:

    F1 has always been the least compelling of all motorsports to watch. Zero passing and very non-competitive among the manufacturers. Hopefully some of the rules changes fix those issues. Still won't watch it because it's a bunch of Eurofags.

    Less compelling than oval racing of any kind? No.
    Yes, because they pass on ovals and can swap paint without making the cars disintegrate.
    sure.gif

    Most F1 car damage is fixed by swapping out nose pieces. Are they as tuff as NASCAR? Like we say, no.

    And as my esteemed colleague noted above, there is plenty of passing. Sometimes not always at the front due to Mercs dominance in the past couple of years, but now they are being pushed by Red Bull at the front and the middle of the pack teams are very tightly matched.

    The cars are technological wonders which is one the reason I like it.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    Max and Lewis are going to be at each other's throats all season long. The racing this year has been good, I think.

    The comments about the only passing being in the pits was valid a few years ago. There's a decent amount of passing these days with the DRS system in place, but I'll give you that the Mercedes team has been making the racing a bit boring the past few seasons.

    The Drive to Survive series on Netflix is good if you want a peek inside an F1 team for the weekend.

    Agree on all counts. Drive to Survive even made Mrs. Beaver a fan of F1.
    Same here. My wife hates the sound of the cars, but she started watching DTS and couldn't stop. So much awesome footage.

    dflea said:

    F1 has always been the least compelling of all motorsports to watch. Zero passing and very non-competitive among the manufacturers. Hopefully some of the rules changes fix those issues. Still won't watch it because it's a bunch of Eurofags.

    Less compelling than oval racing of any kind? No.
    Yes, because they pass on ovals and can swap paint without making the cars disintegrate.
    They pass in F1, too, and you shouldn't hit other shit with your car. Have you not watched a Grand Prix in a few years? The racing today is very good, and it was always the case in F1 that a couple teams dominate the series.

    I'd rather watch F1 than any other car racing. Bike racing is great, too, dirt or track. Oval racing, unless it's on dirt, just doesn't do it for me.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Verstappen takes the win at Monaco and now leads the WDC.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Charles LeClerc puts the Ferrari on pole for the Azerbaijan GP tomorrow, starting alongside Hamilton in the Merc.

    Verstappen starts from 3rd.

  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    dflea said:

    Charles LeClerc puts the Ferrari on pole for the Azerbaijan GP tomorrow, starting alongside Hamilton in the Merc.

    Verstappen starts from 3rd.

    One last ride into the sunset for the FlexiWing°.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Sergio Perez takes the win at Baku, Azerbaijan, with Vettel and Gasly rounding out the podium. Hamilton tosses it away at the end and Verstappen remains ahead by 4 points in the WDC after a blown rear tire took him out of the race. Red Bull jumps ahead of Merc by 26 points in the constructor's championship.

  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Lewis takes out Max on the first lap, gets a 10-second penalty, and still manages to take the win at the Silverstone GP. If you want to see F1 cars at their best, Silverstone is the place.

    Verstappen still holds a slim lead going into the next race.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    No time to watch full races these days, but I'm catching the YouTube highlights after every race. Also enjoying the team radio compilations. And just last night I got completely caught up on Drive to Survive, so I'm basically an F1 expert. Basically.

    It's both amazing how often these cars run into each other and even more amazing that it doesn't happen more often still.

  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Max and Lewis are still running neck-and-neck for the F1 WDC as the championship moves to the COTA in Austin, TX this weekend.

    Hamilton recently won his 100th GP, leaving Schumacher in his wake and everyone else waaay far behind.

    Here's Max throwing some f-bombs and melting down behind the wheel for a little entertainment. I lol'ed because he sounds an awful lot like I do when I have to drive on Meridian Street.

  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    dflea said:

    Max and Lewis are still running neck-and-neck for the F1 WDC as the championship moves to the COTA in Austin, TX this weekend.

    Hamilton recently won his 100th GP, leaving Schumacher in his wake and everyone else waaay far behind.

    Here's Max throwing some f-bombs and melting down behind the wheel for a little entertainment. I lol'ed because he sounds an awful lot like I do when I have to drive on Meridian Street.

    As in Bellingham to Lynden Meridian Street? If so, agreed.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Max and Lewis face off at the Yas Marina circuit in Abu Dhabi to decide the WDC this weekend.

    Win the race, win the driver's championship.

    Lewis looking for #8, Max looking for his first.

    I think Mercedes has the advantage at this track, so Red Bull is going to have to dig deep to find a way to get Verstappen on the top of the podium.


  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    The final race lived up to the billing. It came down to the last lap, and a questionable call by the stewards at the end to let the lapped cars pass the safety car and have the safety car re-enter the pits on the last lap.

    But they did, and this last lap was where the rubber met the road - and now Max Verstappen is the new world champion. Mercedes appealed the race results but were told to pound sand.

    Here's the last lap

  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    A summary of the 2021 F1 season.

    It's pretty good.

  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    edited December 2021
    Thing is Hamilton already got away with a massive advantage from cutting the corner, so seemed the teams were even from the stewards.

    How totally F1, though, for a championship to be decided by race direction with a safety car decision. Good year overall, though.