Rats set $1.9 TRILLION vote on Covid payouts to donors at 2am tonight

Southerndawg

SFGbob said:

Bob_C said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Bob_C said:

TheKobeStopper said:

DerekJohnson said:

a Covid relief bill where reportedly only 9% goes to relief

There’s a bunch of money going to things like childcare, rent assistance, re opening schools, unemployment insurance that’s not being counted as “relief”. Most dems are still liberals who bow to their corporate masters but the bill is not bad.

A huge chunk of the schools money is for 2022 and later. How is that being used to reopen the schools?

Dig deeper.

And this is why it’s obviously just a game to you guys. I demonstrate that the 9% number is bullshit, that way more is going to help people and there’s no acknowledgement at all. Just on to the next talking point.

Opening up the economy is the best cure to all of these issues that is addressed by the spending. It’s a game and a crime to hold the citizens hostage with spending that has nothing to do with opening up.

Still no answer as to why we can’t just do a bill that cuts checks and nothing else.

Exactly, open up the economy and let people go back to work. The government paying people not to work is a fucking disaster.

Depends on what their true goals are. The "party of the people" has always taken the view that dependent voters are well worth spending other peoples money on.

PurpleThrobber

SFGbob said:

Bob_C said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Bob_C said:

TheKobeStopper said:

DerekJohnson said:

a Covid relief bill where reportedly only 9% goes to relief

There’s a bunch of money going to things like childcare, rent assistance, re opening schools, unemployment insurance that’s not being counted as “relief”. Most dems are still liberals who bow to their corporate masters but the bill is not bad.

A huge chunk of the schools money is for 2022 and later. How is that being used to reopen the schools?

Dig deeper.

And this is why it’s obviously just a game to you guys. I demonstrate that the 9% number is bullshit, that way more is going to help people and there’s no acknowledgement at all. Just on to the next talking point.

Opening up the economy is the best cure to all of these issues that is addressed by the spending. It’s a game and a crime to hold the citizens hostage with spending that has nothing to do with opening up.

Still no answer as to why we can’t just do a bill that cuts checks and nothing else.

Exactly, open up the economy and let people go back to work. The government paying people not to work is a fucking disaster.

One of my kid's is making more on unemployment right now than going back to work full time. It's fucking insane.

Getting a lot of manual labor out of him in exchange for free interweb service and food - but, christ, that's just fucking stupid fiscal policy and I'd really like him to GTFO of our basement.

Sledog

SFGbob said:

TheKobeStopper said:

DerekJohnson said:

a Covid relief bill where reportedly only 9% goes to relief

There’s a bunch of money going to things like childcare, rent assistance, re opening schools, unemployment insurance that’s not being counted as “relief”. Most dems are still liberals who bow to their corporate masters but the bill is not bad.

Yeah if you're completely irresponsible fiscally the bill is great. Why shouldn't taxpayers bailout public employee union pensions funds?

Also bailing out the blue states like Washington who got swindles for a gazzillion by and African Prince scam. Cali who did similar stupid shit including a billion on a bogus mask buy etc. etc. etc. Should be labeled blue stupid state relief bill.

Fire_Marshall_Bill

Pitchfork51 said:

I'm still for the 15 and hour. Should be 20. But they throw the fucking pork in and it pisses me off

It should be $18 an hour in shitholes like SF, Seattle, and NY.

It should be $11 in most flyover places like hell Paso and SEC territory

Southerndawg

Fire_Marshall_Bill said:

Pitchfork51 said:

I'm still for the 15 and hour. Should be 20. But they throw the fucking pork in and it pisses me off

It should be $18 an hour in shitholes like SF, Seattle, and NY.

It should be $11 in most flyover places like hell Paso and SEC territory

Why stop at $18 an hour? If $18/hour is good $50/hour would be great, no? C'mon man, "Build Back Better".

LebamDawg

just start minimum wages at $75K per year - pay everyone that, lower anyone above that amount down to $75K. Housing 4 people per house that way we don't have to worry about households spreading the Vid.

Oh yeah - a chicken in every pot

Pitchfork51

Of course my other problem is that most people who do low level office work don't know how to use a computer.

SFGbob

PurpleThrobber said:

SFGbob said:

Bob_C said:

TheKobeStopper said:

Bob_C said:

TheKobeStopper said:

DerekJohnson said:

a Covid relief bill where reportedly only 9% goes to relief

There’s a bunch of money going to things like childcare, rent assistance, re opening schools, unemployment insurance that’s not being counted as “relief”. Most dems are still liberals who bow to their corporate masters but the bill is not bad.

A huge chunk of the schools money is for 2022 and later. How is that being used to reopen the schools?

Dig deeper.

And this is why it’s obviously just a game to you guys. I demonstrate that the 9% number is bullshit, that way more is going to help people and there’s no acknowledgement at all. Just on to the next talking point.

Opening up the economy is the best cure to all of these issues that is addressed by the spending. It’s a game and a crime to hold the citizens hostage with spending that has nothing to do with opening up.

Still no answer as to why we can’t just do a bill that cuts checks and nothing else.

Exactly, open up the economy and let people go back to work. The government paying people not to work is a fucking disaster.

One of my kid's is making more on unemployment right now than going back to work full time. It's fucking insane.

Getting a lot of manual labor out of him in exchange for free interweb service and food - but, christ, that's just fucking stupid fiscal policy and I'd really like him to GTFO of our basement.

Same thing with my oldest son. I've been telling him that he needs to get a part-time job, he is down in San Diego going to college, I want him to share in some of his school and housing costs, I'm not raising him to be a Democrat, but he is currently making more money on unemployment than he would if he had a job. He and his buddies are all getting checks from the government.

SFGbob

Sledog said:

SFGbob said:

TheKobeStopper said:

DerekJohnson said:

a Covid relief bill where reportedly only 9% goes to relief

There’s a bunch of money going to things like childcare, rent assistance, re opening schools, unemployment insurance that’s not being counted as “relief”. Most dems are still liberals who bow to their corporate masters but the bill is not bad.

Yeah if you're completely irresponsible fiscally the bill is great. Why shouldn't taxpayers bailout public employee union pensions funds?

Also bailing out the blue states like Washington who got swindles for a gazzillion by and African Prince scam. Cali who did similar stupid shit including a billion on a bogus mask buy etc. etc. etc. Should be labeled blue stupid state relief bill.

Sure would be nice if our "centrist" friend wasn't such a Kunt that he could tell us why private sector employees who have no pensions should be subsidizing government employees with retirement and healthcare benefits far greater than most private sector employees.

Goduckies

The big issue with the bill is when spending is fkr if it is after 2021, there is zero reason for it to be in the covid bill period